JSeahawks
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pehawk":pbfpnimn said:
People better get used to JSeahawks bringing up good points? Thank you Willie Hurst.
Mike Rob Cut?!!!
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People better get used to JSeahawks bringing up good points? Thank you Willie Hurst.
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um. I really liked MRob just like a lot of you...but lets see...Complete roster turnover from the very beginning. unmpteen billion maneuvers the past few years, especially year one. Carroll is the defensive guy and he has been stockpiling the Defense so that he could have a dynamic and diverse personnel to form a myriad of personnel groups in which we are all starting to see unfold in a manner that multiple players are being utilized to play multiple positions from multiple spots in the defensive alignment. Pete is basically, from the look of things, revolutionizing the way defense is going to be played in the NFL....i mean we can't say that it is happening for sure, but that is what everything I am seeing and reading and hearing is telling me....just have to stay tuned and see if that is what happens.
On the offensive side...while Pete has been getting the defense set how he wants it, although I think that he will always be tinkering with it, even if we think we see the finished product.....ok, ramble over..back to offense...I am sure that they have the same overall philosophy for the ENTIRE team...not just defense. MRob has done an admirable job, playing at a very high level and anchoring the basis for our run game for Beastmode...but even without Harvin being in the lineup for a considerable amount of time. I feel that Pete and John already feel like with all the pieces in play the team already has a lot of potential for becoming a very dynamic offense that has all the tools to do whatever it needs to do...balance, ok done, oh...we need to run more this game...whatever, we got this.....gonna have to air it out this game....look at that pretty deep ball in the endzone....maybe the offense is a year or two out from whatever their total vision is...but I would 99.9999999999 guarantee that the same principle will hold, no matter how dynamic..how versatile, how powerful the offense ends up being(hopefully this will happen), they will always be tinkering on that side as well.
On the offensive side...while Pete has been getting the defense set how he wants it, although I think that he will always be tinkering with it, even if we think we see the finished product.....ok, ramble over..back to offense...I am sure that they have the same overall philosophy for the ENTIRE team...not just defense. MRob has done an admirable job, playing at a very high level and anchoring the basis for our run game for Beastmode...but even without Harvin being in the lineup for a considerable amount of time. I feel that Pete and John already feel like with all the pieces in play the team already has a lot of potential for becoming a very dynamic offense that has all the tools to do whatever it needs to do...balance, ok done, oh...we need to run more this game...whatever, we got this.....gonna have to air it out this game....look at that pretty deep ball in the endzone....maybe the offense is a year or two out from whatever their total vision is...but I would 99.9999999999 guarantee that the same principle will hold, no matter how dynamic..how versatile, how powerful the offense ends up being(hopefully this will happen), they will always be tinkering on that side as well.
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pehawk":2yiw7xzi said:
If you are going to be using the plural on good points, instead of good point, then from pehawks view you must be talking about the one good idea you have had in each previous year and the potentially one good idea you will have every season after this one. :stirthepot:
mretrade":3u57zpqq said:
I'd think since Robinson cut his teeth in the Bay, you'd have something to add. But, then I remember, that was during the Nolan and Singletary years, you didn't care then.
Just because Roland defended you once from me, doesn't mean you'll make any friends doing this. I've been around a long time and broken bread, bottles and hotel rooms with a lot of these guys. So, stop.
Again, prove the stereotype wrong and add substance to a non-49er thread.
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I, too, believe that his health became a real issue. If he contracted mononucleosis...that is a season ending disease. Pete and John had to make a tough decision for the long term benefit of the team. Tears me up, however! We lost a real Seahawk!
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I think Pehawk has a good point regarding Tom Cable and Marcel Reese. I know nothing about Cable's taste in fullbacks, but if there is one thing that stood out about Coleman this preseason it was his receiving skills, which looked very good. He's also got excellent speed after the catch. Seattle throws a ton of passes to the FB. It was clear that the Seahawks loved Coleman even before the 1st preseason game and after watching four of his games, I think the only sane reason for that love is his receiving ability and speed after the catch.
What I hate about this move is that I just don't buy Coleman as a run blocker yet. I think I had him down for one good run block this preseason and he had several bad ones. He lacks strength and hitting ability. Even Turbin and Michael have thrown some killer blocks at times this preseason, but not Coleman.
I just hope this isn't another Evan Moore type move that blows up in their faces for getting too cute. Though the good news is that even if it does, there are usually solid FBs available as free agents this time of year. I do think Coleman will be a very good receiver for us, and get a lot of positive attention for his diving catches on 3rd downs.
What I hate about this move is that I just don't buy Coleman as a run blocker yet. I think I had him down for one good run block this preseason and he had several bad ones. He lacks strength and hitting ability. Even Turbin and Michael have thrown some killer blocks at times this preseason, but not Coleman.
I just hope this isn't another Evan Moore type move that blows up in their faces for getting too cute. Though the good news is that even if it does, there are usually solid FBs available as free agents this time of year. I do think Coleman will be a very good receiver for us, and get a lot of positive attention for his diving catches on 3rd downs.
pehawk":3egto9il said:
Agreed. Looks like Pete and Bevell plan to put the game in Wilson's hands much more this year.
Don't be shocked if ML is moved prior to 2014. I am team first, player second, but I'd sure like to win it all with ML. We'd still be "soft" without him and what he brought to this team.
Knowing what we (apparently) know now, I can only imagine the affect losing Harvin initially had on Pete and Bevell. But I think Golden Tate will soon benefit from their well laid plans and we will run this offence as though Harvin was in it. Just a hunch...I could be wrong.
kearly":5hmsgulk said:
That's a valid addition to my point. Its a legit concern.
But, I don't know how much you remember Reece at Udub, but he was a true enigma. It was genius; pure, legendary genius, that Cable finally found a role for Reece. Reece, the pudgy lil guy, who like Devin Hester, never had a position to call his own.
My faith is in Cable and THAT genius. And, make no mistake, it was genius.
Reece kinda sounds like Ware or Bates.
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Bigpumpkin":34eyh4v8 said:
This has to be it, especially if whatever he has is contagious. It sucks because we lost a bruising blocker and overall quality player and team mate. I may be overreacting, but I see Wilson getting sacked more this season. Who's going to pick up that blitzing linebacker?
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hoxrox":1kia0365 said:
I don't think Robinson was even on the field in most passing situations. Seems like we usually go one back with either Lynch or Turbin back there in those formations.
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He was a class act who will be missed.
I already added substance a few pages earlier. I am saying you are jumping the gun calling Wilson a top 5 quarterback. When Robinson was with the 49ers I found him extremely over rated. His value to the team was mostly on special teams and I was happy when we didn't retain him. We had a fullback in Moran Norris and Robinson was basically a duplicate of what Anthony Dixon brings now for us now but Robinson lacked power to pick up the short yards. After he left, he turned into a pretty good fullback. However, I wouldn't trade him for Bruce Miller.
I don't have to prove to you anything lol.
I don't have to prove to you anything lol.
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Although I'm sad about this for numerous reasons which have already been discussed, I do see this as a logical step. His salary was just too high for that position. They have a few young candidates that while they will not be able to immediately have the blocking impact of Robinson, have other skills that may have been a factor. I don't think they end up signing him later to a reduced salary, but I certainly wouldn't mind if that happened. This FO has made a few errors, like any other team, but they are batting a very respectable percentage with personnel decisions so I will continue to give them the benefit of the doubt. We all knew the cuts this year would be painful and they will continue to be so, and really just get worse going forward. We no longer have the luxury of the past few years with the rebuilding phase and the ability to spend money left and right, I have faith there's a good plan in place.
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I predicted this in April. If Maragos is cut, I'll be 2 for 3.
"Looking at the cap numbers, here are some players I expect us to find replacements for in this years draft.
McQuiston -cap figure 2.5 million
Mike Rob - cap figure 2.5 million
Maragos - cap figure 1.3 million.
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"Looking at the cap numbers, here are some players I expect us to find replacements for in this years draft.
McQuiston -cap figure 2.5 million
Mike Rob - cap figure 2.5 million
Maragos - cap figure 1.3 million.
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Guys, this isn't the packers. We don't own part of the team. IF WE DID we might have a legitimate case for being pissed, but as it stands now Mr. Allen didn't veto the move so we have to trust that Pete and John are doing this for the good of the team.
Just because we like a player doesn't mean it's the best for the team. They probably know something we don't know.
Just because we like a player doesn't mean it's the best for the team. They probably know something we don't know.
mretrade":1jxb6x1b said:
You didn't have to prove anything, but you sure tried to.
We'll agree to disagree on Wilson. I don't do the "Kap vs Wilson" thing. It's stupid.
But, if it makes you feel better "KaP SuCKS...DAAAAAARRRR!". I'm sure you'll find 12 threads like that in the NFL forum.
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LMAO! Really! :th2thumbs:JSeahawks":1umolh97 said:
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A few things after catching up on this thread:
1. I am going to try not to attack posters personally, but let me say that I would rather read a thousand posts that are distraught about losing a player that is well-liked, even if those posts are sometimes over-the-top, than read one post by someone whining about how distraught people are. We know that it's a business. It's a business when your company lays you off, too. That doesn't mean that you should take it in stride and move on. Yeah, this isn't as affecting for anyone as losing a job, but it is affecting. I cannot imagine what good your holier-than-thou posts are doing.
2. Anytime Hawkblogger gets too big in his britches about this, just remind him that his columns where he was in the tank for Matt Flynn are still up on the internet and a demonstration of his strategy: Skip Bayless-like harping on points until he gets one right and then reminding everyone how right he was.
3. Assuming that this isn't just a MRob being sick/money thing and that it also indicates that the FB position will be less important this season and in seasons to come, do you all think that we see more 2 and 3TE sets, predominantly? More four-wides (something I think we need to really do more of with the WR talent we have)?
1. I am going to try not to attack posters personally, but let me say that I would rather read a thousand posts that are distraught about losing a player that is well-liked, even if those posts are sometimes over-the-top, than read one post by someone whining about how distraught people are. We know that it's a business. It's a business when your company lays you off, too. That doesn't mean that you should take it in stride and move on. Yeah, this isn't as affecting for anyone as losing a job, but it is affecting. I cannot imagine what good your holier-than-thou posts are doing.
2. Anytime Hawkblogger gets too big in his britches about this, just remind him that his columns where he was in the tank for Matt Flynn are still up on the internet and a demonstration of his strategy: Skip Bayless-like harping on points until he gets one right and then reminding everyone how right he was.
3. Assuming that this isn't just a MRob being sick/money thing and that it also indicates that the FB position will be less important this season and in seasons to come, do you all think that we see more 2 and 3TE sets, predominantly? More four-wides (something I think we need to really do more of with the WR talent we have)?
