Mike Rob Cut?!!!

[NorthwestSportsFan]

FWIW, I think this is the right move. It's a difficult cut, but a needed one for the long-term benefit of the organization.

 

[ImTheScientist]

What? Don't get this move. Thought Mike Rob was a key part of our running game. He helped open lanes for Lynch.

I remember the games he wasn't in, our run game got stuffed! Don't like this at all unless the young guys can fill this spot better.

He played all 16 games in 2012.

 

[hox]

Ok it has to be due to the illness. That is the only logical conclusion at this point.

Those who are undervaluing his ability to open up lanes for Lynch, I hope you don't undervalue his ability to pick up the blitz and protect Wilson. Because the young guys are just not at that level.

 

[pehawk]

T-Sizzle's holding court and regulating all over. Personal favorite? The "we'd probably still have Big Mike with Housh running skinny posts w\Hass throwing it up...." in the Harper thread.

Even though he was a QB, Robinson is a pretty traditional FB. Cable's a VERY progressive offensive mind. He doesn't want a typical fullback, if he even has to roll with one.

 

[ImTheScientist]

T-Sizzle's holding court and regulating all over. Personal favorite? The "we'd probably still have Big Mike with Housh running skinny posts w\Hass throwing it up...." in the Harper thread.

Even though he was a QB, Robinson is a pretty traditional FB. Cable's a VERY progressive offensive mind. He doesn't want a typical fullback, if he even has to roll with one.

:3-1:

 

[hox]

What? Don't get this move. Thought Mike Rob was a key part of our running game. He helped open lanes for Lynch.

I remember the games he wasn't in, our run game got stuffed! Don't like this at all unless the young guys can fill this spot better.

He played all 16 games in 2012.

Right, and our run game dominated. I challenge you to look back at the games MRob was not in, prior to last year.

 

[Seafan]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

I can't understand the "thinking" here. He can't physically play for a couple more weeks minimum. He's lost weight/strength. Do you carry a guy his age at a normally 1 deep position if he's unable to play, sure if he's your starting QB but not the FB. This will also allow the Hawks to sign him to a better contract and it won't be fully guaranteed. This wasn't a "just save money move". Who knows, he may not reach the level of play that made him so valuable. He could be back in a couple weeks and blasting holes again for Marshawn. This move doesn't necessarily mean that Coleman will automatically be the FB week one. I trust these guys. They want to win.

 

[BobinLaConner]

sad to see this one...

Mike Rob, you are one hell of a player, hard hitting lead blocker and the emotional leader of this team. Talk about heart, I will miss seeing you getting the hawks fired up before and when we needed a little firing up in games. If this is true and it plays out, we will miss you, but you will always be that voice yelling "All Hands on Deck!" and forever be a Seahawk in the hearts of the 12th man.

The only logical explanation I can figure is...
He really does have a virus and wont be able to get back in football shape for several weeks
or
He has been released and they intend to sign him back at a lesser salary
or
They have as much confidence in Ware or Coleman, making MRob expendable

or they just don't feel they need a fullback with his skills

I'm probably wrong on all of the above, but I guess we will find out more as things play out. I trust Pete and John but just not following their thinking on this one. Sure feels like a slug in the gut though.

 

[Obie]

Yeah Cable only likes guys who commit dozens of penalties and suck at pass blocking

 

[pehawk]

T-Sizzle's holding court and regulating all over. Personal favorite? The "we'd probably still have Big Mike with Housh running skinny posts w\Hass throwing it up...." in the Harper thread.

Even though he was a QB, Robinson is a pretty traditional FB. Cable's a VERY progressive offensive mind. He doesn't want a typical fullback, if he even has to roll with one.

:3-1:

I have no idea what that moving animation thing means, and quite honestly, its detracting from your overall mission. And that's from a fan, hermano.

Carry on....

Oh, but remember, Marcelle Reese would KILL Robinson in a sprint. And THAT'S what Cable wants and needs.

Willson will line up at FB. Michael will line up at FB. When Harvin gets back, Lynch will line up at FB.

 

[Blitzer88]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

Agree with you 100% kearly. This move makes very little sense if it was about the money as we only save about 1 million in cap room. The drop in blocking ability from mike rob to Coleman is huge.

 

[HawkWow]

"Please don't tell me we're trading Hutch?? Just kiddin' bro but apples to apples and all that. I love MRob, but his departure won't hold a candle to the loss of Hutch. You know that, I'm just reminding you."

The loss of Hutch killed our running game. Suddenly Alexander became mortal, not because he was old but because he could no longer just run behind two guys that had the impact of someone driving a couple of minvans through the opposing d-line.

Things are very different now but we absolutely depend on the run. We use the run to set up the pass and frankly I am mystified how we think we are going to get the same production from the run game now.

A good run game depends on good blocking from your TEs and your FB first. We are thin at TE, so if one goes down we are in real trouble. Now we are relying on FBs with little or no experience in real games to offset that? Lynch is a stud but he still is going to need help keeping linebackers off him.

You don't think that might affect the running game?

Never insinuated I didn't think it (Rob's loss) could impact the running game...I said it wouldn't compare to the loss of Hutch. Additionally, you may be putting too much emphasis on our need to run. Yes, we ran like crazed dogs in 2012, but I suspect we will depend on the run less in 2013. I could be wrong.

 

[pehawk]

Yeah Cable only likes guys who commit dozens of penalties and suck at pass blocking

GOAT....

 

[JSeahawks]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

Agree with you 100% kearly. This move makes very little sense if it was about the money as we only save about 1 million in cap room. The drop in blocking ability from mike rob to Coleman is huge.

I think you're wrongly assuming that Coleman is going to get all MRob's snaps. I've thought that our TE's when playing fullback this preseason have looked great. I expect to see more two tight end lineups with one of them lined up as an h-back/fullback type.

Also Spencer Ware, though not a blocking force (yet) could be a John L Williams type fullback. As a true weapon with the ball in his hands both as a runner and receiver.

 

[-The Glove-]

Real Rob Report is secondary. I think some of us are caught up in watching Lynch and MRob work together. Watching highlights and seeing them look synchronized, and also the fact that we, in Seattle, are used to a Fullback and without MRob there ain't a functional blocking fullback on the Roster.

Add in the fact that we really liked him and there you have the angst.

As a fan, I'll get wrapped up in players and personalities and enjoy them while they are here and the Front Office can deal with making tough personnel decisions. They are getting paid, we're just paying for the privilege of being fans (buyings stuff, going to games, etc).

I just shake my head when folks will come in here and compare us to fans across the league. Not every franchise has fans who wear their emotions on their sleeves, who refuse to leave the 4th Pre-Season game in the 4th qtr even though the starters only played a little while. New England fans? I don't care how stoic they are. They ain't the 12th man we are.

We fall in love with individuals on this team. So what. I also love John and Pete and their personalities and trust that they will make the right decisions.

Well said

 

[Blitzer88]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

Agree with you 100% kearly. This move makes very little sense if it was about the money as we only save about 1 million in cap room. The drop in blocking ability from mike rob to Coleman is huge.

I think you're wrongly assuming that Coleman is going to get all MRob's snaps. I've thought that our TE's when playing fullback this preseason have looked great. I expect to see more two tight end lineups with one of them lined up as an h-back/fullback type.

Also Spencer Ware, though not a blocking force could be a John L Williams type fullback. As a true weapon with the ball in his hands.

Guess I just really am a traditionalist and see a good fb as something every team needs, especially for or offense and we had one, plus, Mikes leadership is something that will be very hard to replace.

 

[JSeahawks]

I think you're wrongly assuming that Coleman is going to get all MRob's snaps. I've thought that our TE's when playing fullback this preseason have looked great. I expect to see more two tight end lineups with one of them lined up as an h-back/fullback type.

Also Spencer Ware, though not a blocking force could be a John L Williams type fullback. As a true weapon with the ball in his hands.

Guess I just really am a traditionalist and see a good fb as something every team needs, especially for or offense and we had one, plus, Mikes leadership is something that will be very hard to replace.

People won't agree... but from a leadership stand point I actually don't mind him leaving, and even kind of like it. This is Russell Wilson's team. This will allow him to take even more of a leadership role.

 

[HawkWow]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

Agree with you 100% kearly. This move makes very little sense if it was about the money as we only save about 1 million in cap room. The drop in blocking ability from mike rob to Coleman is huge.

I think you're wrongly assuming that Coleman is going to get all MRob's snaps. I've thought that our TE's when playing fullback this preseason have looked great. I expect to see more two tight end lineups with one of them lined up as an h-back/fullback type.

Also Spencer Ware, though not a blocking force could be a John L Williams type fullback. As a true weapon with the ball in his hands.

Wow...I still get all tingly when I see John L's name in print. My all time favorite Hawk back. I saw a little John L. in Weaver, hope to see more of him in Ware.

 

[kearly]

After watching Coleman very closely this preseason, I hate this move. The downgrade from Robinson to Coleman in run blocking is a steep one. It does save a tiny bit of money, but overall I think the FO made a mistake. This move was penny wise, pound foolish, and it will be a detriment to our run offense. If that means Seattle is emphasizing the pass more this season, then okie-dokie, but otherwise, this is just a silly move. If they just wanted to save cash, there were smarter ways of doing it.

I can't understand the "thinking" here. He can't physically play for a couple more weeks minimum. He's lost weight/strength. Do you carry a guy his age at a normally 1 deep position if he's unable to play, sure if he's your starting QB but not the FB. This will also allow the Hawks to sign him to a better contract and it won't be fully guaranteed. This wasn't a "just save money move". Who knows, he may not reach the level of play that made him so valuable. He could be back in a couple weeks and blasting holes again for Marshawn. This move doesn't necessarily mean that Coleman will automatically be the FB week one. I trust these guys. They want to win.

We were going to carry Coleman anyway I'm sure. It's not outrageous to carry 5 RBs. No problems there. Also, you don't cut a very good player to save $2 million total in cap space because he's going to miss a game or two at the start of the year.

I think they felt Coleman was the future at FB anyway and that was the motivation here. Get Coleman reps now at FB full time and see if he can develop as a run blocker. I get it. But I still think it's unwise.

 

[pehawk]

People better get used to this. Jseahawks brought up his one good point a year, Top 5 QB's make their teammates, not the other way around. Brees, Mannings, Brady, the parts always change around them, yet every year they're in it abd get their W's and stats.