Mark Sanchez stabbed in Indy

[IndyHawk]

I still feel this was a mix of things, we will have our answers soon enough.

 

[RolandDeschain]

 

[Dolomight12]

Ai is a muhfucca

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Hmm about this. https://people.com/trump-says-mark-sanchez-is-a-nice-guy-following-indianapolis-arrest-11825926

Sanchez isn’t working in the booth anymore regardless

 

[RiverDog]

Blackout drunk is a real thing. Experienced it once myself, New Year's Eve in the mid-2000s. I drank 2/3rds of a handle (1.75L) of Skyy vodka and passed out just after midnight. At least, I *THOUGHT* I passed out. I found out the next morning I kept drinking for another 1.5 hours and I have no memory of it whatsoever. I threw up like three times the next day - not counting the once I did in my sleep on my friend's couch. I was disconcerted that you can truly just keep going and have absolutely no memory of it later on, or even any memory that you MAY have continued drinking.

People need to not drink to that extent...and ANY professional football player has guaranteed reached that state in college already so they know it can happen, and most of them probably in high school, too. If he DID get blackout drunk - well, you need to know better at that age, Mr. Sanchez.

That's a good point about Sanchez's age and experiences. If he were in his early 20's, you could understand how a person could get that out of control. But at 38 years old and having been exposed to the college and pro athlete lifestyles, you would think that he could recognize the situation that got him into his predicament and his own personal limitations.

Someone mentioned the possibility of other substances besides alcohol being involved, and I think that's the most likely explanation for his behavior. I wonder if they'll release the results of the toxicology report.

 

[glenwo2]

That's a good point about Sanchez's age and experiences. If he were in his early 20's, you could understand how a person could get that out of control. But at 38 years old and having been exposed to the college and pro athlete lifestyles, you would think that he could recognize the situation that got him into his predicament and his own personal limitations.

Someone mentioned the possibility of other substances besides alcohol being involved, and I think that's the most likely explanation for his behavior. I wonder if they'll release the results of the toxicology report.

He better hope he was drugged or something.

 

[RolandDeschain]

That's a good point about Sanchez's age and experiences. If he were in his early 20's, you could understand how a person could get that out of control. But at 38 years old and having been exposed to the college and pro athlete lifestyles, you would think that he could recognize the situation that got him into his predicament and his own personal limitations.

Someone mentioned the possibility of other substances besides alcohol being involved, and I think that's the most likely explanation for his behavior. I wonder if they'll release the results of the toxicology report.

Precisely. He's well past the point of where he should have grown the **** up already. If you're gonna go wild with the partying you need to take steps to do it in a safe environment.

 

[James in PA]

I heard he was doing wind sprints in the alley and the truck "got in his way." So weird.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Pretty good video that goes over what's known (as of yesterday):

 

[glenwo2]

Does being blackout drunk cause someone to knowingly attack someone like this?

I wonder if Mark was on some heavy DRUGS and it wasn't solely alcohol at all....

 

[SNDavidson]

Just let me know when the South Park episode airs

 

[MORGULON]

Football IS more dangerous than baseball. Haha

 

[RiverDog]

Does being blackout drunk cause someone to knowingly attack someone like this?

I wonder if Mark was on some heavy DRUGS and it wasn't solely alcohol at all....

If I had to guess, I'd say that Sanchez was on something else in addition to being drunk. Another indication that he might have been on something in addition to the alcohol is that the driver sprayed him with pepper spray, which would have stopped most people, yet Sanchez just kept coming at him.

PCP is one drug that if abused, can cause a blockage of pain signals to the brain and would be an explanation of why the pepper spray didn't stop Sanchez. It could also explain what apparently was a misperception of reality, that Sanchez somehow thought that the driver was a threat to him.

I'm curious as to if Sanchez has any known history of drug abuse as this has the markings of a drug-induced delusion.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

If I had to guess, I'd say that Sanchez was on something else in addition to being drunk. Another indication that he might have been on something in addition to the alcohol is that the driver sprayed him with pepper spray, which would have stopped most people, yet Sanchez just kept coming at him.

PCP is one drug that if abused, can cause a blockage of pain signals to the brain and would be an explanation of why the pepper spray didn't stop Sanchez. It could also explain what apparently was a misperception of reality, that Sanchez somehow thought that the driver was a threat to him.

I'm curious as to if Sanchez has any known history of drug abuse as this has the markings of a drug-induced delusion.

I’m thinking benzos or ambien. It would be pretty easy to convince a doc that he needed them as his job entailed different time zones each week.

 

[RiverDog]

I’m thinking benzos or ambien. It would be pretty easy to convince a doc that he needed them as his job entailed different time zones each week.

The problem with those two drugs is that they aren't very effective in blocking pain signals to the brain, which is why I was suspecting PCP. But who knows what kind of effects they produce when mixed with alcohol. And, I do have to qualify my statements by saying that I'm not a doctor or pharmacist.

I'm sure that they've submitted a sample for a toxicology analysis, but those generally take a while before they get the results, and even then, they likely won't release them unless they're introduced as evidence in a trial. So, we may never know what, if anything, he was on.

 

[NoGain]

I obviously don't know what he might have taken along with alcohol, but my brain highly doubts it was PCP. First off, it would be difficult to obtain. You'd have to connect up with some shady characters to get it. Also, not being produced/regulated in any legal way here, you'd have to have a pretty risky personality to ingest such a powerful drug not knowing for sure that that's what you were getting, let alone how much you should take.

And then there's just the sheer potency of it alone. My experience with the drug from way back in my youth was that if you took it, it was hard to hide it, especially if you did so with either any degree of regularity, or were binging on it. It just seems like it would have shown up in his behavior by anyone associated with him personally or professionally.

I agree, however, that his behavior that night, at least how it's been portrayed so far, could lead one to conjecture such a thing. Some of the things/behaviors I saw people do on that drug long ago were shocking in the way of disregard of pain and a lack of inhibition about acting on one's impulses, and I'm talking crazy shyt.

My guess is no, but I could be wrong. It's a pretty big leap for someone in the public eye with so much to lose. But we'll find out more.

Just MO.

 

[RiverDog]

I obviously don't know what he might have taken along with alcohol, but my brain highly doubts it was PCP. First off, it would be difficult to obtain. You'd have to connect up with some shady characters to get it. Also, not being produced/regulated in any legal way here, you'd have to have a pretty risky personality to ingest such a powerful drug not knowing for sure that that's what you were getting, let alone how much you should take.

And then there's just the sheer potency of it alone. My experience with the drug from way back in my youth was that if you took it, it was hard to hide it, especially if you did so with either any degree of regularity, or were binging on it. It just seems like it would have shown up in his behavior by anyone associated with him personally or professionally.

I agree, however, that his behavior that night, at least how it's been portrayed so far, could lead one to conjecture such a thing. Some of the things/behaviors I saw people do on that drug long ago were shocking in the way of disregard of pain and a lack of inhibition about acting on one's impulses, and I'm talking crazy shyt.

My guess is no, but I could be wrong. It's a pretty big leap for someone in the public eye with so much to lose. But we'll find out more.

Just MO.

You raised some very good points.

I'm not sure what they are, but I would imagine that there are other drugs besides PCP that produce a blockage of signals to the brain that would allow Sanchez not to be affected by the pepper spray. I brought up PCP because I knew that they produced that kind of effect, that it would allow a person to withstand a large amount of pain that could explain why he wasn't deterred by the pepper spray.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Florio, a lawyer himself, believes Fox has not fired Sanchez as they need him to play ball so Fox can get out of the lawsuit.

Fox omits Mark Sanchez from Week 6 game lineup

Former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez didn't work for Fox in Week 5 because he'd been stabbed and hospitalized.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[RiverDog]

Florio, a lawyer himself, believes Fox has not fired Sanchez as they need him to play ball so Fox can get out of the lawsuit.

Fox omits Mark Sanchez from Week 6 game lineup

Former NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez didn't work for Fox in Week 5 because he'd been stabbed and hospitalized.

www.nbcsports.com

Thanks for the link. That answers my question about how Fox Sports could be liable for Sanchez's actions.

You would think that if it were a company event where Sanchez got so drunk at that they would have held it at the same venue where they were housed at, ie at the hotel, or provided transportation to and from the hotel. Unless they screwed up royally and didn't do that, then the other option is that they knew or should have known that Sanchez had the propensity to get violent after he'd been drinking, which also seems to me to be pretty unlikely.

Fox is a huge company with what has to be a very large legal department, so the odds are that they are on the hook for any liability regarding Sanchez's actions seems remote to me. My opinion is that the victim's attorneys are on a fishing expedition, that the lawyers are getting a percentage cut from any settlement due to the victim, so they might as well throw a bunch of shit on the wall and maybe some of it will stick.

 

[glenwo2]

Florio is a lawyer?

I knew that guy was a c-nt for a reason.