LOL the whiners just paid Purdy $53M a year

[Rat]

Game winning drives are an extremely overrated counting stat. Derek Carr has more than Aaron Rodgers despite starting his career a full decade later and only having played in one career playoff game. Just two years ago, Geno led the league while going 8-7 for us, and second place was Russell Wilson in his second Broncos season, where he was so bad that the franchise chose to cut him and take on over $50m in dead cap. Kirk Cousins set the all-time record in 2022 with eight after having seven over the previous five seasons combined. He followed that up with zero the next season in eight games and then had three last year before getting benched. Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder, and Daniel Jones have killed it in that stat. Ben Roethlisberger led the league in them with seven in his last season at age 39 when he could barely throw. It's a stat of opportunity and a lot of QBs in position to get them in high amounts don't often have their team in position to rack them up, kinda like how great cover corners don't usually have great INT numbers.

If people can provide something showing that Purdy is consistently failing in clutch situations, I'd certainly be willing to amend my stance, but there is surprisingly little showing that high numbers of 4QC and GWDs correlate with team success from year to year.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Game winning drives are an extremely overrated counting stat. Derek Carr has more than Aaron Rodgers despite starting his career a full decade later and only having played in one career playoff game. Just two years ago, Geno led the league while going 8-7 for us, and second place was Russell Wilson in his second Broncos season, where he was so bad that the franchise chose to cut him and take on over $50m in dead cap. Kirk Cousins set the all-time record in 2022 with eight after having seven over the previous five seasons combined. He followed that up with zero the next season in eight games and then had three last year before getting benched. Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder, and Daniel Jones have killed it in that stat. Ben Roethlisberger led the league in them with seven in his last season at age 39 when he could barely throw. It's a stat of opportunity and a lot of QBs in position to get them in high amounts don't often have their team in position to rack them up, kinda like how great cover corners don't usually have great INT numbers.

If people can provide something showing that Purdy is consistently failing in clutch situations, I'd certainly be willing to amend my stance, but there is surprisingly little showing that high numbers of 4QC and GWDs correlate with team success from year to year.

I guess I’m kind of a lazy fan cause I just go but what I see and feel. I’ve never felt doom when Purdy has the ball

 

[Sperrydogg]

Game winning drives are an extremely overrated counting stat. Derek Carr has more than Aaron Rodgers despite starting his career a full decade later and only having played in one career playoff game. Just two years ago, Geno led the league while going 8-7 for us, and second place was Russell Wilson in his second Broncos season, where he was so bad that the franchise chose to cut him and take on over $50m in dead cap. Kirk Cousins set the all-time record in 2022 with eight after having seven over the previous five seasons combined. He followed that up with zero the next season in eight games and then had three last year before getting benched. Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder, and Daniel Jones have killed it in that stat. Ben Roethlisberger led the league in them with seven in his last season at age 39 when he could barely throw. It's a stat of opportunity and a lot of QBs in position to get them in high amounts don't often have their team in position to rack them up, kinda like how great cover corners don't usually have great INT numbers.

If people can provide something showing that Purdy is consistently failing in clutch situations, I'd certainly be willing to amend my stance, but there is surprisingly little showing that high numbers of 4QC and GWDs correlate with team success from year to year.

And I think there’s a difference between game winning drives as a stat and believing that no matter what your guy will get it done.

 

[Sperrydogg]

NFL exec: Brock Purdy is an elite backup, 49ers could pursue alternative

While Brock Purdy is still on pace to break the San Francisco 49ers' single-season franchise record for passing yards that he set last season, the quarterback...

www.49erswebzone.com

I’m nobody I don’t know much about Purdys actual stats and stuff but I do know football. I play it coach it watch it, I played semi-pro out here in sequim for the Olympic eagles. I got destroyed by an ex-nfl draft prospect trying to go around him at end. So when I watch players I can tell who is the one who says just give me the ball. The best I ever saw was Larry. He would literally flash across the field all hair and snatch balls out of the sky over the middle of the lions den. Purdy ain’t that

 

[Seahawker]

Purdy is closer to Jeff Garcia than Joe Montana. I'd give B. Purdy a Geno/Darnold ranking at this time.

 

[DTiempo81]

Purdy does basically everything at a high level. Obviously there's division rival bias here, but I think a lot of the ripping on him is lazy analysis assuming he's not talented because he was drafted so late.

No, he's a good QB. That's just it though, he's not elite at any one thing in particular.

And this is the last fan base that should be stuck in the idea that a player can't be great if they have a good team around them. Look how many advantages Russell Wilson had. I'm sure any QB would have been thrilled to have had the kind of defense that only allows eight points to a record-setting offense in the Super Bowl. Fans so ardently come to Kam Chancellor's defense in any HOF talks. How many defensive "stars" have been in a more perfect situation than he was, having one of the greatest cover safteys ever to pick up his slack, in addition to Richard Sherman being a generational coverage guy, and having Bobby Wagner in front of him. Hell, none of those LOB guys were doing it on their own. That team as a whole had very few players with anything resembling the same level of success outside of Seattle.

Holy cope batman. Russ definitely hit a cliff by the end of his time here but absolutely no one would say that Russ wasn't an elite QB during his prime. That's not Purdy. Purdy is smart kid that plays in a extremely QB friendly system. Trying to compare that to Russ is absolutely insane, and makes me think you have no clue how to judge QB play.

Sometimes good players are good. Having good teammates doesn't take from that.

Purdy is good. He's not the best QB in the NFC, not even close.

 

[Appyhawk]

My extremely lazy analysis of Purdy, based on including watching his college career, is that he is a great guy who has a high floor but not a high ceiling, depending entirely on the skill level of his supporting cast. Most QBs fit into that category but Purdy fell into a situation where SF surrounded him with a star quality cast on both sides of the ball. Whether or not SF can continue to maintain such a supporting cast is the biggest question about Purdy's future. So, what's new about that? Nothing.

 

[glenwo2]

My extremely lazy analysis of Purdy, based on including watching his college career, is that he is a great guy who has a high floor but not a high ceiling, depending entirely on the skill level of his supporting cast. Most QBs fit into that category but Purdy fell into a situation where SF surrounded him with a star quality cast on both sides of the ball. Whether or not SF can continue to maintain such a supporting cast is the biggest question about Purdy's future. So, what's new about that? Nothing.

I bet if Darnold, for example, was in Purdy's shoes, he probably would've won a SB with that super team as opposed to Purdy.

Brock got that contract on the backs of the talented supporting cast that made him look way better than he actually was. Plain and simple.

 

[Rat]

NFL exec: Brock Purdy is an elite backup, 49ers could pursue alternative

While Brock Purdy is still on pace to break the San Francisco 49ers' single-season franchise record for passing yards that he set last season, the quarterback...

www.49erswebzone.com

I’m nobody I don’t know much about Purdys actual stats and stuff but I do know football. I play it coach it watch it, I played semi-pro out here in sequim for the Olympic eagles. I got destroyed by an ex-nfl draft prospect trying to go around him at end. So when I watch players I can tell who is the one who says just give me the ball. The best I ever saw was Larry. He would literally flash across the field all hair and snatch balls out of the sky over the middle of the lions den. Purdy ain’t that

That's all fine, but I don't know you well enough for your "feel" or your history of analyzing prospects aside from this one anecdote where you talk about liking an all-time great who went 3rd overall in his draft, for it to change my opinion. That's why I asked for stats backing up that he's poor in the clutch. You post a lot of quality content, and you frequently click "like" on my posts, the latter being an obvious sign of high intelligence, so I give you more credence than most around here though.

 

[Rat]

I bet if Darnold, for example, was in Purdy's shoes, he probably would've won a SB with that super team as opposed to Purdy.

Brock got that contract on the backs of the talented supporting cast that made him look way better than he actually was. Plain and simple.

We saw what Darnold does in high-pressure situations when he was a no-show for the Vikings last two games.

 

[Sperrydogg]

That's all fine, but I don't know you well enough for your "feel" or your history of analyzing prospects aside from this one anecdote where you talk about liking an all-time great who went 3rd overall in his draft, for it to change my opinion. That's why I asked for stats backing up that he's poor in the clutch. You post a lot of quality content, and you frequently click "like" on my posts, the latter being an obvious sign of high intelligence, so I give you more credence than most around here though.

I definitely have no evidence to back up my opinion… I don’t want to work that hard. Unless someone wants to pay me?! I’m a great researcher and I’m great at rambling on without any real point….

 

[bileever]

I bet if Darnold, for example, was in Purdy's shoes, he probably would've won a SB with that super team as opposed to Purdy.

Brock got that contract on the backs of the talented supporting cast that made him look way better than he actually was. Plain and simple.

Hmm, I think you're reaching a little here. Over three seasons, Purdy's shown that he's a pretty good player. Purdy's already taken a team to the Super Bowl, Darnold had a really good supporting cast last year and couldn't do much with it in the playoffs.

People point to last year as proof that Purdy's not that good, but the 49ers last year were decimated, not only with CMC and Aiyuk gone and Trent Williams injured a lot, but the defense ranked near the bottom of the league. And Purdy dealt with his own injuries. Still, in 15 games he still completed 66% of his passes for over 3800 yards.

It's one thing to play with a less than stellar supporting cast. It's another to play on a team that was in total meltdown mode, like the 49ers were last year.

Now, I think Purdy is worth the money they're paying him, but I don't think the rest of the roster, particularly on the defensive side, will be good enough to make the 49ers as dominant as they were before.

 

[Sperrydogg]

And the all-time great who went third overall I think shows how rare an elite player actually is. Sometimes I think some words get used so much that the true meaning of the word gets lost. There’s good, there’s great, then there’s elite. Honestly, who is truly elite? Mahomes was elite until that last Super Bowl made him look human, Lamar is elite sometimes but still loses… marshawn was elite. Larry, megatron, was Joe Montana elite? Erin rogers? I gotta think elite should be a short list

 

[glenwo2]

We saw what Darnold does in high-pressure situations when he was a no-show for the Vikings last two games.

And I'm sure you're rooting for his failure here so your boy Milroe replaces him ASAP.

 

[glenwo2]

Hmm, I think you're reaching a little here. Over three seasons, Purdy's shown that he's a pretty good player. Purdy's already taken a team to the Super Bowl, Darnold had a really good supporting cast last year and couldn't do much with it in the playoffs.

People point to last year as proof that Purdy's not that good, but the 49ers last year were decimated, not only with CMC and Aiyuk gone and Trent Williams injured a lot, but the defense ranked near the bottom of the league. And Purdy dealt with his own injuries. Still, in 15 games he still completed 66% of his passes for over 3800 yards.

It's one thing to play with a less than stellar supporting cast. It's another to play on a team that was in total meltdown mode, like the 49ers were last year.

Now, I think Purdy is worth the money they're paying him, but I don't think the rest of the roster, particularly on the defensive side, will be good enough to make the 49ers as dominant as they were before.

Let me repeat :

Brock got that contract on the backs of the talented supporting cast that made him look way better than he actually was.

I'm not talking about last season where basically everyone got hurt.

I'm talking about throughout his career since being drafted to the Niners.

Not saying he's a bad player.

I'm just saying that his supporting cast played a major role in his success and what eventually led to this contract.

 

[Rat]

And I'm sure you're rooting for his failure here so your boy Milroe replaces him ASAP.

If pressure is important to you, Milroe would be even worse than Darnold. Both have been complete trash the brighter the lights get.

 

[glenwo2]

If pressure is important to you, Milroe would be even worse than Darnold. Both have been complete trash the brighter the lights get.

Wait....so who did you want to be Seahawks QB then?

 

[DTiempo81]

Wait....so who did you want to be Seahawks QB then?

Based on what I have seen from his posts, I think he would find flaws in Superman if he were wearing a Seahawks jersey, at this point. He then turns around and calls Purdy the best QB in the NFC. It's absolutely wild.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Rats not dumb. If he says it you could probably count on it, the only thing that prolly messes him up is his affinity for Ohio state….

 

[DTiempo81]

Rats not dumb. If he says it you could probably count on it, the only thing that prolly messes him up is his affinity for Ohio state….

Never said he was dumb. Just a bit of apathy towards the team he supposedly roots for, and some rose colored glasses for their biggest rival. Strange.