SoulfishHawk
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And it's obvious that someone on a message board knows more than a future HOF head coach. While Pete might drive us crazy sometimes, he knows 755 times more than anyone on this board about football.
No, he showed up once to take credit for the scheme change on defense & remind everyone he was right & knows way more about football than the coaching staff or GM.Dude always pops his ass up in the air after a Hawk loss but was noticeably absent during the 4 game win streak
Mommy never gave him enough attention I guess
I think with the way this season has gone, and a top 3 pick looming, Carroll is worth another 2 years, at least through the end of the 2025 season to see what progress he has made since Wilson’s departure.Like Pete or hate him, the same patterns and tendencies are always there. Isnt it time to accept the fact that another run is nonexistent with Pete Carroll?
Like Pete or hate him, the same patterns and tendencies are always there. Isnt it time to accept the fact that another run is nonexistent with Pete Carroll?
You're just ignoring the patterns and tendencies that have changed, which are many.
Yeah, he'll show up regardless to move the goalposts again & claim the NFC is wide open & we're now a stone cold lock to win the Superb Owl & if we don't then that just proves he's right & Pete Carroll should definitely be fired.Like I said earlier, just watch. When the Hawks win these next 2 games, he'll vanish. And if he DOES show up, he'll act like this team is easily gonna' run the table
If they lose, just more of the same.
Like Pete or hate him, the same patterns and tendencies are always there. Isnt it time to accept the fact that another run is nonexistent with Pete Carroll?
If, the same patterns and tendencies are always there, then logically we can assume that there is a Super Bowl or two coming in the next year or so. You can't claim same patterns and tendencies and state as a fact, that another run is not coming. It just doesn't work using logic. Quite the opposite, actually.Like Pete or hate him, the same patterns and tendencies are always there. Isnt it time to accept the fact that another run is nonexistent with Pete Carroll?
He's currently building another perennial playoff contending team. You don't want that? I'm confused.
If, the same patterns and tendencies are always there, then logically we can assume that there is a Super Bowl or two coming in the next year or so. You can't claim same patterns and tendencies and state as a fact, that another run is not coming. It just doesn't work using logic. Quite the opposite, actually.
Just a fun side note...you are right, you will never convince someone who has their mind made up. But you do have an outside shot of them changing their mind by asking them a question.Convincing someone who has their mind made up to change their viewpoint is a waste of time.
There is a hard core group of folks who are one with Pete with their position of 'Anyone but Pete' would be better for every situation. They will never give up on their view of 'ABP'. This is a team fan website and everyone here is entitled to their viewpoint. I'm sure their arguments will get strong if the 2 game L streak increases to 3 or 4 or worse. Perhaps their arguments will become more relevant then.
Those arguments still fail to acknowledge that the team is better than most all of them thought it would be at this point. Those argument as well fail to acknowledge that the team is starting a higher number of rookies at key positions than every other team but one.
So far while Seahawks football this season has certainly not been perfect it sure is interesting to watch and at times very frustrating too.
I believe this.Do you honestly believe that?
Simply the Broncos have drafted better, signed better free agents, made better trades than the Seahawks since 2015, save for the QB. Which are hard AF to find.
They took a lot of criticism in 2021 for not drafting a QB, and instead remained patient taking stud CB, Patrick Surtain.
George Paton would later earn the Best Draft Award as voted by NFL front offices for this draft class. (Not mediots.)
I point out this particular move of many great moves made because of the context. Denver had been QB starved for 6 seasons at that point. 5 QBs went in the 1st round that year. But they evaluated (like I evaluated and stated at various points leading up to that draft) that it was an overrated QB class and those guys were being pushed up the board, George Paton stayed with his process and drafted the right player. Regardless if they had a desperate need at QB. That is good management.
Let's see the Seahawks pass on QB next year, if none of them are the right fit after just 1 season of not having a QB. You know and I know, they're drafting a QB in the 1st round come hell or highwater next year, and it illustrates how behind the Seahawks seem to be at every turn. Like a dog chasing firetrucks they are hyper-focused on need.
Next up ownership. Jodi with an "i" made Pete the King of the Seahawks. He is not questioned, nor held accountable. Paul used to do this, and I wholly believe if Paul were alive and well, Pete, would've been canned a long time ago.
Pete can screw up all he wants. He can be arrogant and continue to run dated schemes that haven't worked for years. (He admitted this this off-season.) He can do whatever including run the team into the ground, and it is never his fault, always someone elses, even though he signs off on everything, and holds final say on anything football related. So technically anything wrong or right with the Seahawks falls at the feet of Pete Carroll. It's been mostly wrong for a long time.
Jodi with an "i" seems to be pinching pennies, though admittedly need more seasons to confirm this. But since Paul has died they've had a tons of cap space to make huge moves in 2020 and 2022, and instead chose to blow it on JAGs.
Could've gotten the stars with the cap space instead of mortgaging the farm and kept those draft picks. But it requires an owner willing to pony up and put large amounts of money into escrow. Using cash over cap. Jodi with an "i" is yet to do this and it is putting the Seahawks at disadvantage because of it.
Denver now has the richest owner in the NFL, and will utilize this cash over cap strategy to their advantage. having structured Wilson's contract in a way that is going to allow them to be aggressive in Free Agency in the coming years and have a loaded team year in and year out. Copying what the Rams have been doing.
Wilson didn't make the Seahawks do anything. The Seahawks (Pete Carroll) mismanaged themselves into a dumpster fire and had no choice but to trade their disgruntled HoF QB to speed up their rebuild. They desperately needed picks. And they didn't have much of anything on the roster to trade. DK and Russ were their options to get significant capitol, that's it.
PATRICK MAHOMES (2019-2021) via pro-football-reference
46 Games Started
66.2% completion
7.9 YPA
101 TDs
24 INTs (Led the league in dropped interceptions I believe all three of these years, as a side note.)
103.7 Passer Rating
Rushing: 903 yards at 5.3 YPA; 6 TDs.
PFF Pass Pro O-Line Grades (2, 11, 5)
"The Chiefs’ offensive line can be made out to look worse than it is in pass protection because of the way Patrick Mahomes plays the position and the deeper drops he takes. In fact, a position-high 53 pressures were charged to Mahomes himself over the course of the regular season. It’s something that the Chiefs will gladly live with because of the plays that Mahomes can make and the way he avoids negative plays, but it’s something to keep in mind when evaluating the offensive line."
RUSSELL WILSON (2019-2021) via pro-football-reference
46 Games Started
66.8% completion
7.8 YPA
96 TDs
24 INTs
105.0 Passer Rating
Rushing: 1038 yards at 5.2 YPA; 7 TDs.
PFF Pass Pro O-Line Grades (30, 16, 25)
"Wilson has been able to succeed despite the pass protection from his line, but that doesn’t change the fact that it has often been an issue — and it was a problem again this season. The Seahawks' pressure rate allowed in 2.5 seconds or less of 26.7% this year was third worst in the league, ahead of only the Jets and Dolphins."
You think Wilson is winging it out there? Good one.
Need to draft a stud Guard at some point though. Then I'll feel a lot better about the O Line next year.
It's ok, if they beat the Rams and the Panthers in back to back weeks, Fade will be back to acting like the team is going to be great. Same guy who changed from they are going to be horrible to they easily win 12 games. And every post turns in to Pete is Satan, blah blah blah. It never fails. Not even worth reading when you see who the OP is. Though this time I skimmed and yep......same old crap.