Jim Harbaugh Says Ray McDonald Will Play On Sunday

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Marvin how bout the beat a fellow player with a beer bottle that did disappear? The weapons charges that were tabled until pressured? I am pretty sure those disappeared because of the status of who they were. I wont say it doesn't happen with many professional athletes but you are cherry picking the ones that were charged.
 

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Marvin49":vj3mr474 said:
You are reading much more into my post than was there. I said nothing in my own words. I posted quotes from his mother because they came up on my twitter feed. YOU are the one saying I'm supplying evidence of anything.

Marvin,

Why would you post momma's statement in this thread? Were you just trying to add humor?

Heck, why would the words of anyone close to Ray McDonald be of any value to anyone here?

Note that I haven't participated in arguing with you about whether Chokey McBruiser abused his baby momma or not, or whether or not he should play. But it would appear that your intentions are to support the argument you are continuing to be part of.
 

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loafoftatupu":26sxuqeh said:
Marvin49":26sxuqeh said:
You are reading much more into my post than was there. I said nothing in my own words. I posted quotes from his mother because they came up on my twitter feed. YOU are the one saying I'm supplying evidence of anything.

Marvin,

Why would you post momma's statement in this thread? Were you just trying to add humor?

Heck, why would the words of anyone close to Ray McDonald be of any value to anyone here?

Note that I haven't participated in arguing with you about whether Chokey McBruiser abused his baby momma or not, or whether or not he should play. But it would appear that your intentions are to support the argument you are continuing to be part of.

You're right Loaf. I should only post stuff about what a creep he is. That's why I posted the Police Report...

..oh wait, there isn't one.

I'm posting everything I see on the topic. That included info that looked bad for Ray in the since locked thread.

If there is a police report released and it paints a bad picture, I'll post it if I'm the first person who sees it.
 

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homerun1970":5vji1kvp said:
Marvin how bout the beat a fellow player with a beer bottle that did disappear? The weapons charges that were tabled until pressured? I am pretty sure those disappeared because of the status of who they were. I wont say it doesn't happen with many professional athletes but you are cherry picking the ones that were charged.

Weak. ONE case of charges dropped and another where the guy still plead no contest...to EVERYTHING.

That all you got? Pretty weak conspiracy theory.

I'M cherry picking? LOL. I mentioned ALL of them but Brooks. Dunno what happened there. Neither do you.
 

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Didn't the police chief say any requests for the report would take 10 days? Wonder who has a copy now.
 

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Marvin49":enj0ucnq said:
Since the other thread is dead...

....for what its worth...

Mike Rosenberg ‏@RosenbergMerc · 22m
"It's not true and it will all come out." - #49ers Ray McDonald's mom.

...not that I'd expect her to say anything else.
It's worth nothing so why would you even post it spin master. Just stop. Really.
 

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Marvin49":296zn1h5 said:
loafoftatupu":296zn1h5 said:
Marvin49":296zn1h5 said:
You are reading much more into my post than was there. I said nothing in my own words. I posted quotes from his mother because they came up on my twitter feed. YOU are the one saying I'm supplying evidence of anything.

Marvin,

Why would you post momma's statement in this thread? Were you just trying to add humor?

Heck, why would the words of anyone close to Ray McDonald be of any value to anyone here?

Note that I haven't participated in arguing with you about whether Chokey McBruiser abused his baby momma or not, or whether or not he should play. But it would appear that your intentions are to support the argument you are continuing to be part of.

You're right Loaf. I should only post stuff about what a creep he is. That's why I posted the Police Report...

..oh wait, there isn't one.

I'm posting everything I see on the topic. That included info that looked bad for Ray in the since locked thread.

If there is a police report released and it paints a bad picture, I'll post it if I'm the first person who sees it.

Oh.. there's the drama extreme...

You said you weren't posting it to support your argument as "evidence", so why post it at all in the thread? You think that some opinion will be formed based on what mommy says? What is the point? To keep the board informed of what?
 

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hawksfansinceday1":2wu58f9t said:
Marvin49":2wu58f9t said:
Since the other thread is dead...

....for what its worth...

Mike Rosenberg ‏@RosenbergMerc · 22m
"It's not true and it will all come out." - #49ers Ray McDonald's mom.

...not that I'd expect her to say anything else.
It's worth nothing so why would you even post it spin master. Just stop. Really.

Yup. I'm spinning it so hard that I was the person who started the initial thread on the topic.

Sigh.
 

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loafoftatupu":3coh625b said:
Marvin49":3coh625b said:
loafoftatupu":3coh625b said:
Marvin49":3coh625b said:
You are reading much more into my post than was there. I said nothing in my own words. I posted quotes from his mother because they came up on my twitter feed. YOU are the one saying I'm supplying evidence of anything.

Marvin,

Why would you post momma's statement in this thread? Were you just trying to add humor?

Heck, why would the words of anyone close to Ray McDonald be of any value to anyone here?

Note that I haven't participated in arguing with you about whether Chokey McBruiser abused his baby momma or not, or whether or not he should play. But it would appear that your intentions are to support the argument you are continuing to be part of.

You're right Loaf. I should only post stuff about what a creep he is. That's why I posted the Police Report...

..oh wait, there isn't one.

I'm posting everything I see on the topic. That included info that looked bad for Ray in the since locked thread.

If there is a police report released and it paints a bad picture, I'll post it if I'm the first person who sees it.

Oh.. there's the drama extreme...

You said you weren't posting it to support your argument as "evidence", so why post it at all in the thread? You think that some opinion will be formed based on what mommy says? What is the point? To keep the board informed of what?


So I guess it only counts as viable news if it incriminates. Sorry. Forgot where I was for a sec.

It's news because his mother spoke out. It was news when Ray spoke out. It will be news if the victim speaks out. It will be news when the police release a report.

Did I add any commentary to her words outside of. "What would you expect her to say?". The only people interpreting information one way or the other are "hawk fans taking pot shots. That's OK. I know the score.

Don't sit there and act like being unreasonable tho on the same page where people are spinning ludicrous conspiracy theories and and essentially convicted Ray with almost no information. Moreover, you set up a nice little self fulfilling prophesy where he CANT be innocent because no matter happens you've already decided the DA is corrupt so any resolution that doesn't show him as a wife beater is a corrupt DA.

Then you will add that to your list of imaginary DA transgressions.

It's really a quite clever way if never having to admit you're wrong (if in fact Ray is innocent, which I can only hope).
 

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Marvin49":vkorihit said:
Weak. ONE case of charges dropped and another where the guy still plead no contest...to EVERYTHING.

That all you got? Pretty weak conspiracy theory.

I'M cherry picking? LOL. I mentioned ALL of them but Brooks. Dunno what happened there. Neither do you.

Theory?

3 wobblers reduced for what? Admitting guilt? Think about that Marvin, the guy pleads no contest, is found guilty of 3 felonies and 2 misdemeanor crimes, but has all 3 felonies reduced. So.. 5 convictions, misdemeanor or not makes for 12 days of work release.

Goodell punished Smith far more than the court would touch. No "deal" is made as the DA made very clear, so the judge makes it as convenient as possible. Smith didn't give the court anything but a no contest plea. He had nothing to bargain with in a slap shot case.

That whole thing stinks of extremely favorable sentencing.

And just does how a guy not get charged for using a beer bottle on another's head? You call it weak, but that is pretty jacked up. Cully is in the system, based on previous instances the judge should be giving Cully a reward for not killing anyone.
 

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loafoftatupu":2c0hfwik said:
Marvin49":2c0hfwik said:
Weak. ONE case of charges dropped and another where the guy still plead no contest...to EVERYTHING.

That all you got? Pretty weak conspiracy theory.

I'M cherry picking? LOL. I mentioned ALL of them but Brooks. Dunno what happened there. Neither do you.

Theory?

3 wobblers reduced for what? Admitting guilt? Think about that Marvin, the guy pleads no contest, is found guilty of 3 felonies and 2 misdemeanor crimes, but has all 3 felonies reduced. So.. 5 convictions, misdemeanor or not makes for 12 days of work release.

Goodell punished Smith far more than the court would touch. No "deal" is made as the DA made very clear, so the judge makes it as convenient as possible. Smith didn't give the court anything but a no contest plea. He had nothing to bargain with in a slap shot case.

That whole thing stinks of extremely favorable sentencing.

And just does how a guy not get charged for using a beer bottle on another's head? You call it weak, but that is pretty jacked up. Cully is in the system, based on previous instances the judge should be giving Cully a reward for not killing anyone.

And there you go again. Yup. DA is a Corrupt Niners fan

The fact that you people actually believe that says quite a bit. I mean seriously, think about what you're saying.

Lol. This is reasonable to you?
 

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You can call it weak but do you agree maybe there was enough there that it should have been investigated. Maybe put before a Grand Jury. Then we could find out why statements stiches and Drs. reports do not qualify as evidence. If your not a 9er it is enough to put your behind away for assault at the least.
 

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Marvin49":2vd5706k said:
So I guess it only counts as viable news if it incriminates. Sorry. Forgot where I was for a sec.

It's news because his mother spoke out. It was news when Ray spoke out. It will be news if the victim speaks out. It will be news when the police release a report.

Who said anything about posting incriminating information? This is no court, people have an opinion, you won't get anywhere trying to convince them otherwise or "prove" them wrong and that is exactly what you are doing.

Keep it together Marvin, you are losing it and placing words that weren't said by me, just running with what YOU think my intentions were. This happens to you when you get your 6 on 1 arguments going. It isn't the first time and you know that.

Find anything where I said you should post anything at all.

I know perfectly well that Domestic McChokey isn't going to have any legal problems with this, but that certainly doesn't mean I believe that he didn't do anything to her.
 

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homerun1970":3ho6p8uz said:
You can call it weak but do you agree maybe there was enough there that it should have been investigated. Maybe put before a Grand Jury. Then we could find out why statements stiches and Drs. reports do not qualify as evidence. If your not a 9er it is enough to put your behind away for assault at the least.

Dunno what happened. I do know that the guy who got hit told Ahmed it could "go away" if he have him money. I do know that he ultimately didn't press charges and DIDNT get any money.

I don't know all of the facts so I'm not going to fill in the blanks in order to feel morally superior and simply assume a DA would risk his career and reputation simply to help a football player.

If I were to suggest that happening in Seattle you'd think I was looney tunes.

I put those kinds of ludicrous conspiracy theories right up there with people who think the refs are paid or are trying to screw one team over another.

It's just lunacy.
 

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Marvin49":10td1cad said:
And there you go again. Yup. DA is a Corrupt Niners fan

The fact that you people actually believe that says quite a bit. I mean seriously, think about what you're saying.

Lol. This is reasonable to you?

And there YOU go again... you just claimed that I said the DA is corrupt. Then claimed it "says a lot" that I actually believe that.

Where? I asked how it doesn't get charged. I have made jokes about luxury boxes in the past but only in sarcasm. So quit with the adding views that I never madem

Besides... they wouldn't be that obvious. :)
 

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I just think more info should have came out on it. I know if I hit a co worker especially with a weapon and people sign statements saying I did it the following will happen
1. I am no longer employed
2. I am going to be held criminally liable.
3. You can bet I am not going to be welcome back to the next company function while they let a less valuable employee go that I assaulted.
 

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loafoftatupu":257s5hqt said:
Marvin49":257s5hqt said:
So I guess it only counts as viable news if it incriminates. Sorry. Forgot where I was for a sec.

It's news because his mother spoke out. It was news when Ray spoke out. It will be news if the victim speaks out. It will be news when the police release a report.

Who said anything about posting incriminating information? This is no court, people have an opinion, you won't get anywhere trying to convince them otherwise or "prove" them wrong and that is exactly what you are doing.

Keep it together Marvin, you are losing it and placing words that weren't said by me, just running with what YOU think my intentions were. This happens to you when you get your 6 on 1 arguments going. It isn't the first time and you know that.

Find anything where I said you should post anything at all.

I know perfectly well that Domestic McChokey isn't going to have any legal problems with this, but that certainly doesn't mean I believe that he didn't do anything to her.

...dude.

If I had posted that the mother of his fiancé had come out and said he had thrown an uppercut I somehow doubt you'd have had the same reaction.

Let's just be real here for a sec

Of course we all have opinions. You guys are welcome to them. I have one too. I haven't been advocating one side or the other in a sea of people who have already convicted him and somehow IM the one whose supposedly spinning this thing.

Can you not see how I'd find that humorous? I post comments from his mom that are very much on topic and peeps say I'm somehow calling it evidence. Lol.

Take a step back peeps. Lol.
 

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homerun1970":1rnv48w0 said:
I just think more info should have came out on it. I know if I hit a co worker especially with a weapon and people sign statements saying I did it the following will happen
1. I am no longer employed
2. I am going to be held criminally liable.
3. You can bet I am not going to be welcome back to the next company function while they let a less valuable employee go that I assaulted.

Honestly I don't have the first clue what happened. I heard a rumor that Ahmed hit him because he threw his keys in a bush. I've heard he was essentially extorting Ahmed. I got no idea. Bottom line he didn't press charges. This isn't domestic abuse, so police really can't do much if the victim doesn't press charges.
 

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Marvin49":11ortj5o said:
homerun1970":11ortj5o said:
I just think more info should have came out on it. I know if I hit a co worker especially with a weapon and people sign statements saying I did it the following will happen
1. I am no longer employed
2. I am going to be held criminally liable.
3. You can bet I am not going to be welcome back to the next company function while they let a less valuable employee go that I assaulted.

Honestly I don't have the first clue what happened. I heard a rumor that Ahmed hit him because he threw his keys in a bush. I've heard he was essentially extorting Ahmed. I got no idea. Bottom line he didn't press charges. This isn't domestic abuse, so police really can't do much if the victim doesn't press charges.

Extortion?! Lol.

Oh, Marvin, you never disappoint. Victim is the criminal. :th2thumbs:
 
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