Jermaine Kearse NFFC winning catch - why no...

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The refs were letting both teams play football. I would much rather see the teams only get called on blatant penalties than the tic tacky stuff. Great no call. Hopefully the superbowl is called the same way.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":3onlviq4 said:
It wasn't the worst non-call, but it was definitely pass interference. The defender clearly gets there before the ball, has his hand mashed on Kearse's face and even snags the face mask. All while draped all over the back of him. With the way the rules are today, that's pass interference. Before, it could be argued it wasn't, but it's pretty clear with today's rules.

Watch it again in realtime, he is watching the ball and he's clearly (attempting to) make a play on it.
 

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There's no way in hell DPI is getting called in OT of the Championship game in the end zone on a 35 yard pass unless the receiver is tackled and brought to the ground before the ball gets there. It'd have to be the most obvious PI of the year to get called in that situation.
 

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AbsolutNET":24al41n1 said:
There's no way in hell DPI is getting called in OT of the Championship game in the end zone on a 35 yard pass unless the receiver is tackled and brought to the ground before the ball gets there. It'd have to be the most obvious PI of the year to get called in that situation.

I agree. It was definitely pass interference. It might have been called earlier in the game. No one would have thrown the flag there. It wasn't substantial enough at such a critical point in the game. That was a good non call.
 

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Just ask yourself if he dropped it do you think PI should have been called? IMHO it was. His hand grabbed JK left shoulder. That was not a play on the ball. He did not even have a play since JK had him boxed out. I am not upset since last play and he caught is. But if he did not catch it well that would be a diff story.
 

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Bigpumpkin":17kjngam said:
That is what I find frustrating about the calling of DPI. It is so inconsistent! IMO...the Refs need more guidelines from the NFL. They ought to be "in school" before the season begins in order for all Refs to call DPI with the same amount of contact before the ball arrives.

I for one a very glad some things slide on PI calls. We would probably be hurt as much or more than any other team in the league if a flag was thrown every time there was a little bit of contact.
 

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Year of The Hawk":v8pkv5ik said:
Just ask yourself if he dropped it do you think PI should have been called? IMHO it was. His hand grabbed JK left shoulder. That was not a play on the ball. He did not even have a play since JK had him boxed out. I am not upset since last play and he caught is. But if he did not catch it well that would be a diff story.

Ask yourself how you would feel if that was Rodgers that threw that ball in OT and is was not caught and we got called for PI on minimal contact like that? We would all be upset the officials decided the outcome of a game. I personally never want see a game decided by a call like that. If it was PI by rule it was barely that.
 

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How about the play at the goal line 1Q when the guy grabbed Maxwell's shoulder to prevent the pick? Was that OPI?
 

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AbsolutNET":xxnz2f5o said:
There's no way in hell DPI is getting called in OT of the Championship game in the end zone on a 35 yard pass unless the receiver is tackled and brought to the ground before the ball gets there. It'd have to be the most obvious PI of the year to get called in that situation.


This is what is completely ridiculous about the game then.

At certain times its a penalty but not others?

Its complete BS
 

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I wondered the same thing, after seeing it a couple times, I don't think it was PI.
They have called less many times though, and that still makes me wonder they would have thrown a flag IF it had not been completed.

I'd bet NO if I was gunna bet.
 

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By the book I thnik it was PI. But do you want those close ones called? That's the problem you will run into if they ever allow coaches to challenge PI

Btw Kearse has TD receptions in 4 straight playoff games. Anyone know what the record is? Btw if you are pretty liberal with the game winning TD stat and treat it like a game winning RBI in baseball, Kearse has 3 game winning playoff scores,

Apologies if this has all been brought up already.
 

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I bet they would have thrown a flag if he had dropped it. In hindsight, I'm glad they didn't throw one beforehand. Otherwise, they would have had to sort out the penalty before declaring us the winner.
 
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Seahawk Sailor":1190gmti said:
It wasn't the worst non-call, but it was definitely pass interference. The defender clearly gets there before the ball, has his hand mashed on Kearse's face and even snags the face mask. All while draped all over the back of him. With the way the rules are today, that's pass interference. Before, it could be argued it wasn't, but it's pretty clear with today's rules.

You can see the defender clearly off his feet, draped all over Kearse before the ball arrives.

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The ball's not even in the frame and the defender is completely airborne with his hand on Kearse's facemask.

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It's even clearer in this shot, just prior to Kearse catching the ball.

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And from the reverse angle, ball's not yet even in the picture.

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And perhaps the clearest shot, just before the catch.

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thanks for the pictures! It makes my point perfectly
 

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It was PI.

And you will never see that called. Same reason tate didn't get called for PI. Moment is just too big.
 

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Blatant pass interference and I called it out live. The replays just verify it. Do you expect the bozos the NFL employ to call that. Yes they should.
 

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Seahawkfan80":1d81q0zp said:
If you recall earlier the play penalized against us, they waited for the result of the play to determine whether there was a need for a flag. Probably the same idea there. If there was a reason to throw because of no catch, I would have expected a flag.

Pretty much. But also, this is the exact type of play refs dread. They don't want to decide the game with a call like that. Put us on the 1 yard line with 4 downs? We'd get in. And then every thread on every forum in every sport of every nation would be debating this call. Packers fans would claim the refs gave us every game against them. Frankly it would've been a PR nightmare. And because of that fear, they wouldn't have thrown it, and we'd have been left angry, confused, and prpobably in a totally different place. Kearse, all was forgiven the moment you caught that
 

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Two things.

First, the flag doesn't come out the instant the infraction happens. Refs see the play, they see the result of the play, they mentally process it, and then they throw the flag. How many times have we seen a blatant defensive pass interference where the receiver caught the ball anyway and the officials just decided it wasn't worth wasting everyone's time to point out the infraction.

In this case, it's an insanely dramatic moment and it's crystal clear that Kearse caught the football. People are streaming onto the field. No official would want to step on that moment.

Second, I think it was a reasonable no call. If Seattle had lost a game because of a call like that I'd be pissed. The DB basically arrives a tenth of a second too early, but he does not push the receiver, impede his route, arm bar, or restrict Kearse's ability to make the catch. All he really does is give Kearse a little something to think about.
 

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