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Scottemojo":2g4harde said:Because he looks even worse at tackle?
You had another thread where you lauded Miller, a guard prospect. I had watched that guy, and slow as he is, and he is damn slow, his pass pro is confident and he gives up so little ground while doing it. Physical pass pro is a rare thing, but that guy has it.
Fisher is so deep into his backpedal that he creates opportunities for the DE. I don't know the right terms for what he is doing, so I will just say it isn't very physical. Fisher puts himself back close to the pocket as much as the DE does. Watch footage of him back to back with the Texas A&M guy, Ogbuehi, and the difference is stark. I'm not saying he will be a good guard, I am saying I don't think he is a very good tackle, so he better try guard.
That's not accurate from the several games I have seen of Fisher . . . he has been very good in pass pro at both RT and LT. What you are noticing is a difference in blocking scheme between Oregon and A&M. The Ducks use a zone blocking scheme, so Fisher is using his athleticism to slide back into an area to move defenders out of the play and to form a wall of protection around the QB. Keeping the QB clean is not a weakness on the part of Fisher. In the National Championship game, Fisher allowed zero hits or QB sacks on Mariota, while facing an aggressive Buckeye defense.
Ogbuehi has great athleticism (pre-ACL surgery) and has the potential to be a great pass blocker . . . but he also struggled to make the adjustment this year to LT, giving up multiple sacks in a few games. Two sacks against Bama. Three against Mississpi State. Six sacks allowed during a three-game stretch. Neither is a finished product.
Ogbuehi has freakishly long arms and his frame is a little bigger than Fisher's. Both need to add more strength. Fisher is a little more advanced than Ogbuehi in pass pro. Ogbuehi has been stronger at the point of attack. If they had avoided injuries this past season, they could have been mid to high First Round picks. With the injuries, they are probably now low First Round, high Second Round options. Ogbuehi has a higher ceiling but the recent ACL injury is a concern.