Is this the best secondary in nfl history?

[HansGruber]

I was amazed today how great the boom played today. It got me thinking have I ever witnessed a better secondary since I have been watching football?
Pete and John, can find players out of nowhere, our coaches can flat out get production from them,and our depth is sick! To answer my own question from top to bottom it's the greatest I have ever seen since 1972.
What's your thoughts fellow 12's

You're joking right? Your secondary haven't proven anything yet. Please win a championship first before asking that question.

BTW, the 84 Niners secondary was superior. We sent a four players in the secondary to the pro bowl. We shut down Dan Marino in the Superbowl which was the same year he set the record for the most TD's in a season.

The 1984 Niners secondary wasn't even as good as the 1984 Seahawks secondary.

1984 Seahawks put up 38 INTs, 1984 Niners had 25. Go ahead, look it up, get back to me, kid. Not a single serious football historian would ever put the '84 Niners secondary over the '84 Seahawks secondary. Heck, the 1984 49ers secondary wasn't even as good as the 1980-1983 Raiders secondary.

Another fact for ya - in 1984, Ronnie Lott had 4 INTs and Dwight Hicks had 3 INTs. Not bad.

In 1984, Kenny Easley had 10 INTs. By himself. But let's not forget Dave Brown and John Harris - who had 8 and 6, respectively.

It's always cute listening to 49er "fans" try to talk football history. Hilarious when you consider 49er fans didn't even exist before 1984.

 

[253hawk]

You're joking right? Your secondary haven't proven anything yet. Please win a championship first before asking that question.

Pats had the greatest offense ever in '07 and didn't win a championship, so...

Deion is the greatest CB in the history of the NFL. Deion would take away one side of the field. Richard Sherman is not up to that level, he doesn't take away an entire side of an NFL field.

That's uh...a little subjective there. How good was he once a WR had the ball in his hands? Mostly useless as he flailed away trying to tackle them up high. Guys like Megatron would give him a piggy-back ride all the way to the end zone. And I've said nothing about Sherman whatsoever.

Troll harder, buddy.

 

[jack_patera]

easy on the kool aid...very good secondary but as others have stated 49ers in the 80's, pittsburgh in 70's, and as recent as steelers in early part of this century come to mind...

 

[Hawks46]

I'd say it's the deepest ever.

If you account for Browner being a starter, it's also the largest starting secondary ever.

 

[HansGruber]

Deion couldn't tackle to save his life. He'd just tuck his chin and dive at where a guy's ankles used to be.

Deion is the greatest CB in the history of the NFL. Deion would take away one side of the field. Richard Sherman is not up to that level, he doesn't take away an entire side of an NFL field.

Keep proving to the world that you just started watching football last year, kid.

As a "49er fan", you should remember Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing at Deion Sanders repeatedly and beating him. Or you'd remember Deion refusing to answer questions about why he couldn't cover 49er receivers (specifically Rice).

Prime Time was a big play guy but mediocre in coverage. Anyone who actually watched him play knows that. He gave up tons of yards by going for INTs rather than breaking up passes. But keep talking out your arse. It's entertaining.

 

[HansGruber]

easy on the kool aid...very good secondary but as others have stated 49ers in the 80's, pittsburgh in 70's, and as recent as steelers in early part of this century come to mind...

I'm surprised to hear Jack Patera mention the above-average 49ers secondary of the 80's without a mention of the Seahawks or Raiders secondary of the same era, who were both, in every possibly way, superior. 1980's 49ers and 1970's Steelers both were statistically inferior to the 1984 Seahawks in every possible way.

 

[Jac]

I was amazed today how great the boom played today. It got me thinking have I ever witnessed a better secondary since I have been watching football?
Pete and John, can find players out of nowhere, our coaches can flat out get production from them,and our depth is sick! To answer my own question from top to bottom it's the greatest I have ever seen since 1972.
What's your thoughts fellow 12's

You're joking right? Your secondary haven't proven anything yet. Please win a championship first before asking that question.

BTW, the 84 Niners secondary was superior. We sent all four players in the secondary to the pro bowl. We shut down Dan Marino in the Superbowl which was the same year he set the record for the most TD's in a season.

Pro Bowls are perhaps the worst measuring stick in football.

 

[Weadoption]

Prime was mediocre in coverage?
LOL.......I get it, its the internet, throw up some ridiculous banter and move on to the next thread.

 

[253hawk]

All Deion had was speed. He wasn't very physical or 'smart' in a fundamental or situational sense. He baited a lot of QB's with that speed which made him great but the rest of his game was pretty mediocre. Once he lost that step, he was average. And I say this as a former fan of SF from '83~'99.

 

[mrblitz]

what's a good nickname for sherman:

predator or
slick rick

?

 

[HansGruber]

Prime was mediocre in coverage?
LOL.......I get it, its the internet, throw up some ridiculous banter and move on to the next thread.

Jerry Rice sure made him look below-average. But I get it, you're a "Niners fan". Didn't actually watch football back then so you rely on highlight films and what other people tell you. Those of us who did watch Deion play - yeah, he was not a "great" cover corner. He regularly gave up huge plays going after the turnover. That's what he was known for.

 

[tom sawyer]

Let's see what kind of answers this gets on Feb. 3rd 2014

 

[plyka]

I was amazed today how great the boom played today. It got me thinking have I ever witnessed a better secondary since I have been watching football?
Pete and John, can find players out of nowhere, our coaches can flat out get production from them,and our depth is sick! To answer my own question from top to bottom it's the greatest I have ever seen since 1972.
What's your thoughts fellow 12's

I remember a defense once upon a time which had Deon Sanders at the CB position and Darren Woodson at the Strong Safety position. Deon is without doubt the best CB of all time, Darren Woodson is one of the best safeties of all time --both hall of fame players. But the other CB was manned by Larry Brown who won the superbowl MVP with 2 INTs. Deon is better than Sherman, and Woodson is better than Earl. The other two positions are a wash in my opinion.

 

[plyka]

Deion couldn't tackle to save his life. He'd just tuck his chin and dive at where a guy's ankles used to be.

Deion is the greatest CB in the history of the NFL. Deion would take away one side of the field. Richard Sherman is not up to that level, he doesn't take away an entire side of an NFL field.

Keep proving to the world that you just started watching football last year, kid.

As a "49er fan", you should remember Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing at Deion Sanders repeatedly and beating him. Or you'd remember Deion refusing to answer questions about why he couldn't cover 49er receivers (specifically Rice).

Prime Time was a big play guy but mediocre in coverage. Anyone who actually watched him play knows that. He gave up tons of yards by going for INTs rather than breaking up passes. But keep talking out your arse. It's entertaining.

HAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH........HAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

Can't muster any more to your line regrding Deon being "mediocre" in coverage. I can't believe you've ever watched him play.

Here is 10 minutes of Deon scoring TD after TD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVechuDE1TM

 

[253hawk]

Sanders and Woodson only won 1 NFC title and SB on the field together and Deion was just an added accessory for an already stout team that was set up to win it all anyway (just like SF won their only recent NFC/SB in that decade with him hopping on for the season.)

Best CB of all-time? Please. He was on SF for one year and the only reason for that was that he knew it was the easiest path to a ring because of the great supporting cast.

 

[HansGruber]

Deion couldn't tackle to save his life. He'd just tuck his chin and dive at where a guy's ankles used to be.

Deion is the greatest CB in the history of the NFL. Deion would take away one side of the field. Richard Sherman is not up to that level, he doesn't take away an entire side of an NFL field.

Keep proving to the world that you just started watching football last year, kid.

As a "49er fan", you should remember Joe Montana and Steve Young throwing at Deion Sanders repeatedly and beating him. Or you'd remember Deion refusing to answer questions about why he couldn't cover 49er receivers (specifically Rice).

Prime Time was a big play guy but mediocre in coverage. Anyone who actually watched him play knows that. He gave up tons of yards by going for INTs rather than breaking up passes. But keep talking out your arse. It's entertaining.

HAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH........HAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

Can't muster any more to your line regrding Deon being "mediocre" in coverage. I can't believe you've ever watched him play.

Trust me, the feeling is mutual. Better than Sherman? Care to back that up somehow? I gave a specific reason and argument, you just spout off with some "zomg, greatest evarrrr" nonsense that makes you sound like a fanboy.

Seriously, you may want to go back and look up some stats and media from the time. Never could cover Rice. Got burned hard in the playoffs. Sure you wanna have this argument? My next post will be the articles. Maybe you'd like to Google that first and check your facts. I'll give you time.

 

[SmokinHawk]

Deion couldn't tackle to save his life. He'd just tuck his chin and dive at where a guy's ankles used to be.

Deion is the greatest CB in the history of the NFL. Deion would take away one side of the field. Richard Sherman is not up to that level, he doesn't take away an entire side of an NFL field.

rofl, right. Tell that to Eli Manning.

 

[Scottemojo]

In the mid to late 80's the Chiefs had an incredible secondary. Cherry, Ross, Burress, those are the names that jump to mind.

 

[Weadoption]

Prime was mediocre in coverage?
LOL.......I get it, its the internet, throw up some ridiculous banter and move on to the next thread.

Jerry Rice sure made him look below-average. But I get it, you're a "Niners fan". Didn't actually watch football back then so you rely on highlight films and what other people tell you. Those of us who did watch Deion play - yeah, he was not a "great" cover corner. He regularly gave up huge plays going after the turnover. That's what he was known for.

Been watchin football since the 70's, earliest memories are of the Steelers and Cowboys winning like seemingly all the time back then.
I get it that we has a risk taker at times in terms of going for the highlight play, but the man was still Lawrence Taylor like in his ability to alter the offensive schemes run on the other side of the ball.
dude was a flat out a man among boys, thats what I remember.

 

[HansGruber]

Best year Deion ever had statistically was in 1991 with the Falcons. He had 6 INTs, 1 sack, 49 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, and an unknown # of passes defensed (not tracked back then). His second best year was 1993 when he had 7 INTs, 0 sacks, 34 tackles, and 1 forced fumble.

In 2012, Sherman's only full season to date, he had 8 INTs, 1 sack, 3 forced fumbles, 53 tackles, and 24 passes defensed. Sherman is a statistically better CB than Sanders in every possible way.


*Drops mic*