Is this offensive PI?

[253hawk]

Not trying to sound like a homer, but I think Tate's push is made out way worse than it looks. He's sizing up his position to move forward and expected resistance but the DB had just picked up his left leg, taking all of his weight off of it.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Not trying to sound like a homer, but I think Tate's push is made out way worse than it looks. He's sizing up his position to move forward and expected resistance but the DB had just picked up his left leg, taking all of his weight off of it.

C'mon man.

 

[253hawk]

If Tate can shove a guy that hard with that little effort, he needs to be tested for roids.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Yes Craptree is the master of OPI, and yes that was OPI. As was Tate's in the GB game. They don't call it on those Hail Marys though.

 

[ASuperForce]

I guarantee there will be a ton of uncalled OPIs against Denver with all the pick plays they're sure to run.

 

[Seeker]

No it's an interception lol

 

[General Manager]

Yes, he clearly pushed Sherman in the back and it's a completely different play than the one called on Jackson in the SB. Jackson barley touched the guy then broke right and Matt threw him the ball on a broken play . Crabtree pushed Sherman in the back when the ball was in the air and a few yards yards from him. Fortunatly Sherman is a big corner not easily moved and was still able to make the play.

 

[Hasselbeck]

team....in that situation they just need to let them play unless the play is completely egregious.

You mean like this? LOL

I was going to say.. we can't really cry for an iffy OPI call based off history lol.

 

[Laloosh]

team....in that situation they just need to let them play unless the play is completely egregious.

You mean like this? LOL

I was going to say.. we can't really cry for an iffy OPI call based off history lol.

Nobody is crying. Unless their team was just eliminated in the NFCCG...

 

[Bigpumpkin]

EC....you did it again! Priceless!

 

[General Manager]

The question was Crabtree guilty of an OPI the answer is yes, it was a good no call though. If the refs let Denver and Seattle play we win . But if that was a good no call then that call in the SB in 05 was the worst OPI call in the history of the NFL.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

The question was Crabtree guilty of an OPI the answer is yes, it was a good no call though. If the refs let Denver and Seattle play we win . But if that was a good no call then that call in the SB in 05 was the worst OPI call in the history of the NFL.

....along with several other terrible calls!

 

[Tical21]

Yes, it was pass interference. Doesn't take much of a shove to change the direction of a guy about to jump. Yes, DJax's was pass interference. Yes, Tate's was pass interference. If Sherman hadn't had gorilla arms and wasn't able to still get some fingers on that ball despite the shove, it would have gone down as one of the most controversial no-calls in the history of the NFL.

 

[General Manager]

Yes, it was pass interference. Doesn't take much of a shove to change the direction of a guy about to jump. Yes, DJax's was pass interference. Yes, Tate's was pass interference. If Sherman hadn't had gorilla arms and wasn't able to still get some fingers on that ball despite the shove, it would have gone down as one of the most controversial no-calls in the history of the NFL.

The call on Jackson was horseshit, I could go into detail about the differences with these plays but if you can't see it by now, I might as well be talking to air.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

Yes, it was pass interference. Doesn't take much of a shove to change the direction of a guy about to jump. Yes, DJax's was pass interference. Yes, Tate's was pass interference. If Sherman hadn't had gorilla arms and wasn't able to still get some fingers on that ball despite the shove, it would have gone down as one of the most controversial no-calls in the history of the NFL.

The call on Jackson was horseshit, I could go into detail about the differences with these plays but if you can't see it by now, I might as well be talking to air.

Not surprising at all. Some peeps have carefully crafted their devil's advocate, 'look, I'm being objective and the rest of you are just homers' roles :lol: Tate's PI in the GB game was blatant, Crabtree's a bit less so, but WAY more obvious that D-Jack's. D-Jack's looked more like a mutual game of Paddy Cake that could have just as easily been DPI. That was non-call against any team other than maybe a team standing in the way of Jerome's last hurrah, and the Rooney's 100th Lombardi trophy, not to mention gazillions in merchandise sales.

 

[kidhawk]

team....in that situation they just need to let them play unless the play is completely egregious.

You mean like this? LOL

I was going to say.. we can't really cry for an iffy OPI call based off history lol.

That situation was different as well. Whenever there's a large group like that going for a jump ball, PI can literally be called on someone EVERY SINGLE TIME, but it rarely ever is because of the situation. As for the play in question from the NFCCG, there was a push and it is technically OPI, but to me you have to let them play which they did. If he'd have pushed him far enough to miss the ball I'd have been pissed about it, but still would have to say you have to let them play, but he couldn't push Sherman hard enough to get him away from that ball, so the call wouldn't matter either way because it would have been declined.

 

[PatsFanNH]

Threw this together a minute ago because Sherm had mentioned offensive PI on that last call. If you're the ref, do you call that a push off in that situation?

I never would call that PI was not enough contact IMO to call it that. That said what an Athletic play by Sherman on what was a very well thrown ball! (Kaep had him open and Sherman made an UNBELIEVABLE play)

 

[plyka]

Threw this together a minute ago because Sherm had mentioned offensive PI on that last call. If you're the ref, do you call that a push off in that situation?

Of course it is offensive PI, no doubt about it. When you get pushed in the back right before the ball gets there, it's offensive PI, but it just doesn't get calle.d

 

[Hawks46]

It's just as much a PI as Darrell Jackson's "PI" in the SuperBowl.

Bingo. I'd say no. Crabtree was just finding Sherman with his arm. There was no full extension of the arm, the DB didn't get moved, no space was created.

As to the original post, for the record, Sherman never said there was offensive PI, once. He just said he got pushed in the back. Sherm is physical too and relishes physical matchups against WRs. I'm betting he'd rather have that not called against Crabs so he can do some hanfighting as well.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

Here's a better gif from Field Gulls. (Click over and read the whole thing. It's awesome like always.) Definitely OPI, probably a good no-call in today's day and age and if he had caught it, we'd be complaining about the refs awarding the Niners' the game.