Is Bevell to blame for much of this teams discontent?

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SoulfishHawk":2mjgp3qc said:
The Bevell thing is so old, even I stopped beating that dead horse

New Thread, is Bevell responsible for our forum's discontent?
 

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I think Smith opened up a can of worms by questioning the scheme and the ability of Cable to implement a competent line and Pete didnt like it. Just my opinion.
 

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Was Sherm Smith actually fired or did he resign? And what about Lofa?

So what this leads me to believe is that Pete actually does hold his coaching staff accountable.
 

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Seems Pete primarily holds coaches accountable who don't keep quiet about Bevell's limitations.

Pete sure loves him some Bevell for some reason...
 

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semiahmoo":3jm57qq2 said:
Seems Pete primarily holds coaches accountable who don't keep quiet about Bevell's limitations.

Pete sure loves him some Bevell for some reason...
I see you're churning out fake news again. Show a shred of proof for that bizarre statement.
 

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Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)
 

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chris98251":y2mtb6fy said:
Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)

Bingo.

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chris98251":3r2c1ss6 said:
Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)
I don't give a rat's ass who you believe in or pledge your allegiance to. I'll keep my faith in Pete.
 

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Siouxhawk":1prw3hgq said:
chris98251":1prw3hgq said:
Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)
I don't give a rat's ass who you believe in or pledge your allegiance to. I'll keep my faith in Pete.


That would be conceding the argument I guess.

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I don't need vindication like you must. I just know if 1 of 2 things happen, that play results in a touchdown. Play call was justifiable; end result was a sock in the gut. But we'll be back!
 

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Siouxhawk":2nvw3hlk said:
I don't need vindication like you must. I just know if 1 of 2 things happen, that play results in a touchdown. Play call was justifiable; end result was a sock in the gut. But we'll be back!


I know if I pick the right numbers I win Mega Millions, in that given situation the play had about the same odds, so much for what if's.

The professional experts whose job it is to analyze these things agree.

What qualifications do you have that match up with them?
 

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Not that it matters, but a great majority of those so-called experts took issue with the fact that we chose to pass at all, not so much the play chosen. But the educated ones even realize that a pass in that situation made a lot of sense. There were also many pivotal moments in that one where we could have locked it up earlier with a key play on both offense or defense.

But in any event, our head coach closed the book on that point and time 37 games ago. I'm pretty sure the team will follow his lead and have a unified front in concentrating on the present in hopes of a bright future.
 

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Siouxhawk":2yakvzch said:
Not that it matters, but a great majority of those so-called experts took issue with the fact that we chose to pass at all, not so much the play chosen. But the educated ones even realize that a pass in that situation made a lot of sense. There were also many pivotal moments in that one where we could have locked it up earlier with a key play on both offense or defense.

But in any event, our head coach closed the book on that point and time 37 games ago. I'm pretty sure the team will follow his lead and have a unified front in concentrating on the present in hopes of a bright future.

HOF's Dieon Sanders and Emmitt Smith were critical of that play call. Those are just two of the many "educated ones" disagreeing with you regarding the play. Are you suggesting they don't know football? I would surmise they forgot a lot about football than most of us on here would ever know about football.
 

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hawkfan68":2bwwlr37 said:
Siouxhawk":2bwwlr37 said:
Not that it matters, but a great majority of those so-called experts took issue with the fact that we chose to pass at all, not so much the play chosen. But the educated ones even realize that a pass in that situation made a lot of sense. There were also many pivotal moments in that one where we could have locked it up earlier with a key play on both offense or defense.

But in any event, our head coach closed the book on that point and time 37 games ago. I'm pretty sure the team will follow his lead and have a unified front in concentrating on the present in hopes of a bright future.

HOF's Dieon Sanders and Emmitt Smith were critical of that play call. Those are just two of the many "educated ones" disagreeing with you regarding the play. Are you suggesting they don't know football? I would surmise they forgot a lot about football than most of us on here would ever know about football.
They were critical of a pass. And they certainly were entitled to voice their opinions; they are payed to do that. There were others, though, that understood the dynamics at play that went into the decision to pass from the 1 when 108 similar decisions from that same spot earlier that season had resulted in a touchdown reception against 0 interceptions.
 

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chris98251":3eic1ygx said:
Siouxhawk":3eic1ygx said:
chris98251":3eic1ygx said:
Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)
I don't give a rat's ass who you believe in or pledge your allegiance to. I'll keep my faith in Pete.


That would be conceding the argument I guess.
So, You give credence to a bunch of Know-It-All's, and none to the Coach that got us our FIRST Lombardi.... Check. :2thumbs:
 

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Calling it "the worst play in Super Bowl history" is more than merely "critical."

It's pointing out a play that will forever remain in NFL infamy because of how stupid the call was, how poorly executed (primarily by RW who should never have thrown it) and the "it was the right play" initial reaction of Bevell and Carroll.

The play sucked. Play calling has long been a weakness of the PC-era Seahawks along with time management, etc.

When our D started to slip a bit, it exposed the flaws in the entire system IMO. And then the loss of Lynch, well, we've been living off the fumes of the past ever since. Kind of like people who enjoy the smell of their own farts.

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scutterhawk":3kz75cki said:
chris98251":3kz75cki said:
Siouxhawk":3kz75cki said:
chris98251":3kz75cki said:
Who do we take seriously, a whole bunch of fans that have seen the game, played the game, players that have played the game and were stars, analysts whose job it is to dissect plays, other coaches, the winning coach, or one fan or group of fans that say it was all good and the right play to call. 8)
I don't give a rat's ass who you believe in or pledge your allegiance to. I'll keep my faith in Pete.


That would be conceding the argument I guess.
So, You give credence to a bunch of Know-It-All's, and none to the Coach that got us our FIRST Lombardi.... Check. :2thumbs:


I am saying that he makes mistakes, his game management has had similar issues since he has been here, he picked the worst time that one could possibly have to have a brain fart with a OC that didn't have the common sense to play to our strengths. Those being Lynch, or a roll out run option for Wilson, especially if they were stacked inside big, or give Wilson audible options. There are a Dozen other things that would have given us multiple chances to score rather then a forced pass inside with any tip or bounce could be intercepted with our worst receiver on the depth chart on the receiving end.

The fact they were confused and scrambling and wasting time prior to the call is also a indication of bad game management and planning be it OC or Pete, I mean really, Bevell had to ask Pete what to do?
 
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