Is Anthony Richardson worth pick 5?

[rjdriver]

If you look at

You can hate it, but the Seahawks are going to draft whoever is the top DE on their board. They aren’t going to spend the #5 pick on a project QB with a TD/int ratio of 17/9 and a 54% completion percentage. No %%*ing way!

You could be right, but you never know.

Let's look at three guys we know Schneider was high on previously and either did or expressed interest in drafting.

Russell Wilson had 25 picks his last two years at NC State and never had a completion % above 60.

Patrick Mahomes had 25 picks as well in his last two years at Texas Tech. In 2016, he threw a pick in six games in a row on his way to losing seven games.

Josh Allen has a completion rate of 56% and threw a ton of picks as well in his final two years.

If we take a stud DE, awesome. However, when I look at what guys that JS seems to like become in this league, I'd have no issue with us selecting a QB at 5 (or better yet...trade down and still get him).

 

[massari]

Young (assuming he’s 6’ and pushing 200#)

He's working on getting to the same weight Drew Brees played at. He's already proven he can take huge amounts of punishment even before he adds to his frame.

 

[Appyhawk]

Stoke our defensive firebox and improve the OLine. The best fit for Seattle at QB will be on the board in '24.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

If you look at


You could be right, but you never know.

Let's look at three guys we know Schneider was high on previously and either did or expressed interest in drafting.

Russell Wilson had 25 picks his last two years at NC State and never had a completion % above 60.

Patrick Mahomes had 25 picks as well in his last two years at Texas Tech. In 2016, he threw a pick in six games in a row on his way to losing seven games.

Josh Allen has a completion rate of 56% and threw a ton of picks as well in his final two years.

If we take a stud DE, awesome. However, when I look at what guys that JS seems to like become in this league, I'd have no issue with us selecting a QB at 5 (or better yet...trade down and still get him).

Wilson senior year 3,175 yards, TD/int ratio 33/4 and 73% completion percentage. JS drafted him in 3rd round, not #5 in first round.

The Seahawks are drafting a DE. If we could get Young or Stroud, I’m all-in, but not Richardson. Hawks have the resources to compete with the Colts for #1, but I don’t see it happening.

 

[Hawkinaz]

He's working on getting to the same weight Drew Brees played at. He's already proven he can take huge amounts of punishment even before he adds to his frame.

Levis was hit more than Young. Young sprained the AC joint in his right shoulder during a routine play against Arkansas Saban was asked about the injury and he wasn’t concerned because it’s happened before (red flag)

 

[massari]

Levis was hit more than Young. Young sprained the AC joint in his right shoulder during a routine play against Arkansas Saban was asked about the injury and he wasn’t concerned because it’s happened before (red flag)

You realize ac joint is a common injury, no?

 

[ElvisInBlue]

He's working on getting to the same weight Drew Brees played at. He's already proven he can take huge amounts of punishment even before he adds to his frame.

I’d be shocked if Young comes in at 210, 200 is probably a stretch.

The truth with Young is you‘re banking on the league continuing to protect the QBs and excepting the risk of injury is worth the talent.

For me the Mendoza line is 6’ 200# for him to be a top 5 pick. He’s a talented QB, but he’s not a lightning quick twitch guy so scheming around size limitations gets more complicated.

For reference: Murray is 5’10” @ 210#

 

[ElvisInBlue]

Stoke our defensive firebox and improve the OLine. The best fit for Seattle at QB will be on the board in '24.

At what spot on the board?

If you go the quick fix route of signing a middling QB and use draft/FA to improve the defense, odds are you’re out of range for a top talent.

 

[Hawkinaz]

I would have no problem drafting Richardson ( I used to be against it) after going back and rewatching game film his weaknesses can all be corrected by quality coaching ( IMO) the 2 comparisons are Mahomes and Allen as being wild child’s in college that were harnessed. Another comparison nobody brings up is Brett Favre who through his career still had his problems but was a star

If Schneider was willing to draft Allen ( according to rumor)when he came out Richardson is possible

 

[GemCity]

Carter, Young, Anderson, and Stroud….will not be available. We can leave them out of who is going #5.

 

[massari]

I would have no problem drafting Richardson ( I used to be against it) after going back and rewatching game film his weaknesses can all be corrected by quality coaching ( IMO) the 2 comparisons are Mahomes and Allen as being wild child’s in college that were harnessed. Another comparison nobody brings up is Brett Favre who through his career still had his problems but was a star

If Schneider was willing to draft Allen ( according to rumor)when he came out Richardson is possible

Lol bro don't lie, you didn't rewatch his game film, you rewatched "the QB school" YT channel and heard his weakness can all be corrected

 

[massari]

For reference: Murray is 5’10” @ 210#
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Young is wearing flip flops, Kyler is wearing shoes with lifts and standing closer to the camera

 

[James in PA]

Carter, Young, Anderson, and Stroud….will not be available. We can leave them out of who is going #5.

Not necessarily. If the Bears love Young, they could decide to move on from Fields. Then either Anderson or Carter fall to us for sure.

NFL Mock Draft 2023: Bears trade Justin Fields and select QB with No. 1 pick; Packers add offensive playmaker

Three QBs go in the first four picks

www.cbssports.com

 

[ElvisInBlue]

Young is wearing flip flops, Kyler is wearing shoes with lifts and standing closer to the camera

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Guess we’ll see on March 4th.
My bet is 5’ 10.5” @ 197#

 

[massari]

Guess we’ll see on March 4th.
My bet is 5’ 10.5”

5'2.5" max imo

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Carter, Young, Anderson, and Stroud….will not be available. We can leave them out of who is going #5.

If somebody traded up to #3 to draft Levis, there will be a riot on the Bears forum over whether to draft Anderson or Carter. It’s been going on for Weeks! In that event Seahawks get whichever one the Bears don’t draft.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Not necessarily. If the Bears love Young, they could decide to move on from Fields. Then either Anderson or Carter fall to us for sure.

NFL Mock Draft 2023: Bears trade Justin Fields and select QB with No. 1 pick; Packers add offensive playmaker

Three QBs go in the first four picks

www.cbssports.com

Yep. Carter might be gone but 3 quarterbacks could go before the Hawks make their pick. It’s actually a good spot to be in for many reasons and leveraging a few spots for another first and a second could be ideal

 

[themunn]

I'd make a significant bet that four QBs go in the top 8.

And yes. Richardson is worth that pick.

This mythical "DE" people keep bringing up is every bit as risky. Will Anderson won't be there. There are serious question marks with the other prospects, and a few of them (McDonald and Wilson, namely) will need every bit as much time developing as Richardson will.

IF 4 QBs go in top 8 means only 4 picks in top 8 go elsewhere. Given we have top 5 pick would suggest that in all likelihood 3 QBs go ahead of us and we have our choice of the 2nd best defensive player.

If both Carter and Anderson are gone, I think we probably trade down to a QB needy team

 

[IndyHawk]

I’d be shocked if Young comes in at 210, 200 is probably a stretch.

The truth with Young is you‘re banking on the league continuing to protect the QBs and excepting the risk of injury is worth the talent.

For me the Mendoza line is 6’ 200# for him to be a top 5 pick. He’s a talented QB, but he’s not a lightning quick twitch guy so scheming around size limitations gets more complicated.

For reference: Murray is 5’10” @ 210#
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Kyleer is listed taller than he really is or with shoes on and yet Young is
clearly shorter and smaller - Yikes!

 

[RockinHawks]

I'd go Richardson before Murphy, as they both have question marks...Richardson's upside is incredible. If he can sit and learn and develop, he could be very special.

I'd rather have Anderson, Carter, or Wilson for the DL at #5. One of which will probably be there.

I would be just as happy grabbing Hall or Tune later in the draft. As developmental QB's with much better accuracy and decision-making, that would make more sense to me... but I'm not a coach, just a fan.

If we took 3 defensive players in our first four picks, I'd be happy. Sprinkle in a C (Schmitz or Tipmann) or Vorehees at G... I'd be ecstatic.