If The Score Was 23-6 Would You Guys Still Be Complaining?

[cesame]

An average/bad team finds a way to lose that game.

A good team, like the Seahawks, re-group and dominate to finish the game, which is exactly what happened.

It wasn't pretty, but you never dismiss a W in the NFL. Average/bad teams lose that game.

 

[HawkWow]

We are what we are.

Not sure we can complain about it, it just looks like it might be that this team is nowhere near as good as I expected it would be.

Does anyone else believe we can beat NO in Seattle if we play like this? Then again based on how we have been playing recently a lot of other teams on the schedule look more dangerous than I would have expected.

Can we get better? Hopefully. If we don't? Then we probably do not have to worry about it because it won't matter.

To repeat the question, the game really was 23-6 if not for the fluke.

Are you feeling this way if the final is 23-6??

It wasn't a fluke. Not perfectly round or predictable, it was a football. And that's the name of the game. The fumbles we recovered, were they flukes, too?

Not nitpicking you, but the sooner you discard this idea of discounting "flukes", the better off you'll be. We had a few fluke plays in the SB, too. But they counted as though they were not....and always will. And this why some of us are less than thrilled with today's performance. Happy? Of course. But thrilled in no shape or form. 3 weeks in a row we've played down to the level of our opponent, IMO. That needs to stop if we are going yard.

 

[BAllenHawk]

.net is that annoying obsessive girlfriend that wants you to be perfect 100% of the time or else they will endlessly nag until your ears bleed to death



ps. You mad .net? The truth hurts

Let's hope so. The "oh well, we'll get 'em next time" approach of years past didn't work out so well.

Too many Hawk fans think they're a better fan for tolerating losing and/ or not questioning poor play. That's no different from saying "I'm a better citizen because I never question my government".

You think being upset, or hyper critical is going to help them get better. People being optimistic helps them s much as you freaking out because they didn't dominate. It doesn't, nothing you do besides screaming your lungs out at the clink helps them.

 

[DavidSeven]

.net is that annoying obsessive girlfriend that wants you to be perfect 100% of the time or else they will endlessly nag until your ears bleed to death



ps. You mad .net? The truth hurts

This is so true. DEN just gave up more points to JAX at home than we did to TEN after they allowed DAL to score 50 on them. Let's discuss how they are not a Super Bowl caliber team anymore.

5-1.

 

[Hawkpower]

We are what we are.

Not sure we can complain about it, it just looks like it might be that this team is nowhere near as good as I expected it would be.

Does anyone else believe we can beat NO in Seattle if we play like this? Then again based on how we have been playing recently a lot of other teams on the schedule look more dangerous than I would have expected.

Can we get better? Hopefully. If we don't? Then we probably do not have to worry about it because it won't matter.

To repeat the question, the game really was 23-6 if not for the fluke.

Are you feeling this way if the final is 23-6??

It wasn't a fluke. Not perfectly round or predictable, it was a football. And that's the name of the game. The fumbles we recovered, were they flukes, too?

Not nitpicking you, but the sooner you discard this idea of discounting "flukes", the better off you'll be. We had a few fluke plays in the SB, too. But they counted as though they were not....and always will. And this why some of us are less than thrilled with today's performance. Happy? Of course. But thrilled in no shape or form. 3 weeks in a row we've played down to the level of our opponent, IMO. That needs to stop if we are going yard.

It was a fluke because you arent normally going to run John Ryan and his replacement at holder out there. It was a perfect storm that went the Titans way.

I understand "flukes" can happen and are a part of the game, but in this case, that scenario will never happen again, hence it IS dismissable.

 

[plyka]

We played well enough to beat the Titans. But I'm still thinking there's room for improvement...so WE DON'T SUCK. 7 pt win over a Fitz led Titan team at home is far from exceptional. The play calling is still suspect on both sides of the ball and the execution only moderately better. Whether a person feels this team excelled today or not, is very subjective and a matter of opinion. My opinion is we looked nothing like a SB team. In fact, all things considered, we looked worse this week, at home, than we did last week vs, a good home, Colts team.

Pete has his hands full over the next couple of days. We play like this in Zona and we will fly away tied with the 9ers in the division and a game behind NO in the conference. Props to RW and ML in particular. Kearse , Tate and Baldwin are steady but Rice's acrobatic catch was not enough to get off my sh*t list. Sherm and Rice had similar days today, actually. Browner sucked and is becoming a liability. And where the hell was Irvin? 6 weeks into the season and he's made like 2 plays. The suspension is on him, so not a valid excuse. Irvin's contributions have been only moderately better than Michael's.

Rant over (for now).

It's a long season, and no superbowl team looks like a superbowl team every game throughout a season. What does look like a superbowl team is winning games where you're not looking like a SB team. Which this team did today. On the bad side, the offense is really struggling, and I put a majority of the blame at the feet of Bevell or whoever is responsible for play calling. This team really needs to open it up and start throwing it around the park earlier. Also, let's put some dynamism into the routes and or playcalling.

Late last year this offense seemd a whole lot different than it does now. On the bright side I thought the OLINE didn't have a bad game.

 

[had2bhawk]

Ebb and flow- We are bound to have a few games like these during the course of the year. When we ebb and are still in the games I really cant complain. We are a little bit broken right now and were still 5-1. The only thing with me is that these games are taking their toll on my life expectancy. IMHO we will play our best ball when we get the o-line firing on all cylinders and Pete finally decides what he wants for our d-line. Pete said he will be experimenting with the D-line for a couple more weeks (last week) and I think its evident that our o-line needs Okung back. I'm enjoying the W's.

Do I agree that was a ugly win? Sure! It is a win, how many times have we been at the other end of the stick? Maybe the Hawks weren't really up for this game. Sometimes you play to your competition, bottom line is we won the game we should have.
IMO Seattle will be hyped up for Arizona Thursday nite and we and the nation will see the true Hawks. Just enjoy the win!

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Our reactions mean nothing. 5-1 still happens to be 5-1.

 

[zhawk]

you might like how, but we won.

 

[SonicHawk]

Flukey things happen in every game. I don't think you can discount them because they were flukey.

What about Marshawn's fumble that RW recovered... that was flukey.

 

[HawkWow]

.net is that annoying obsessive girlfriend that wants you to be perfect 100% of the time or else they will endlessly nag until your ears bleed to death



ps. You mad .net? The truth hurts

Let's hope so. The "oh well, we'll get 'em next time" approach of years past didn't work out so well.

Too many Hawk fans think they're a better fan for tolerating losing and/ or not questioning poor play. That's no different from saying "I'm a better citizen because I never question my government".

You think being upset, or hyper critical is going to help them get better. People being optimistic helps them s much as you freaking out because they didn't dominate. It doesn't, nothing you do besides screaming your lungs out at the clink helps them.

If you can't point out where I was "freaking out"...I guess that's going to have something to say about you, dontcha' think, sunflower?

 

[Hawks46]

I'm with you OP. There were some flukey plays and a couple of breakdowns, but overall the team looked good and had a pretty dominating performance. If it weren't for those few plays, the score would have been much more lopsided. No team is perfect. The Hawks are 5-1 and sitting on top of the NFC. Let's be happy and excited about where we are at.

We've been "fluked" twice in a row. You might see 2 FGs blocked for TDs in an entire season in the NFL, and we've had them in back to back games. That's every bit as symptomatic as Houston's 5 pick 6's in a row.

Add into it what, 3 or 4 fumbles today.

Add into it that we're starting to lead the league in dumbass, 15 yard after the play penalties.

There's a ton of stuff starting to unravel. We're not going to beat the good teams like this.

Let me make this a bit clearer: the 49ers aren't dead. They're 1 game behind us, and playing a hell of a lot more solidly than we are, in all phases of the game. Watching us beat the Titans, lead by Fitzpatrick, by one score doesn't bother you ?

Yes, the defense played well. We shut them down, but they still got the TD. They earned it through our stupidity. And it was almost too much to overcome. Yes, I'd still be bitching. I'm worried about this team.

 

[ZagHawk]

I'm glad we're finding ways to win games while key components of our team are missing. However, I do wish we were playing better than we are now. There's plenty of season left, so I'm hopeful the team will make corrections week to week like last year.

 

[Polaris]

We've been "fluked" twice in a row. You might see 2 FGs blocked for TDs in an entire season in the NFL, and we've had them in back to back games. That's every bit as symptomatic as Houston's 5 pick 6's in a row.

I disagree. A fluke is a fluke. Just because you win one lotto ticket doesn't mean your odds are any less of winning another lotto ticket (see gambler's fallacy). I also note that it wasn't two blocked FGs in two sucessive weeks. Last week it was a blocked FG returned for a TD. This week it was a fluke set of circumstances that had our backup holder and kicker out, and the snap was mishandled. EVEN THEN with 2 sec to go in the half, at least 999 of a 1000, the play quickly dies and both teams go to the half with no points scored.

I am not at all saying the 'hawks played anything close to a perfect game, and I was disgruntled through a lot of it myself, but sometimes as Freud once said, "A cigar is sometimes just a cigar" and in this case a fluke is sometimes just a fluke.

 

[Hawkpower]

I'm with you OP. There were some flukey plays and a couple of breakdowns, but overall the team looked good and had a pretty dominating performance. If it weren't for those few plays, the score would have been much more lopsided. No team is perfect. The Hawks are 5-1 and sitting on top of the NFC. Let's be happy and excited about where we are at.

We've been "fluked" twice in a row. You might see 2 FGs blocked for TDs in an entire season in the NFL, and we've had them in back to back games. That's every bit as symptomatic as Houston's 5 pick 6's in a row.

Add into it what, 3 or 4 fumbles today.

Add into it that we're starting to lead the league in dumbass, 15 yard after the play penalties.

There's a ton of stuff starting to unravel. We're not going to beat the good teams like this.

Let me make this a bit clearer: the 49ers aren't dead. They're 1 game behind us, and playing a hell of a lot more solidly than we are, in all phases of the game. Watching us beat the Titans, lead by Fitzpatrick, by one score doesn't bother you ?

Yes, the defense played well. We shut them down, but they still got the TD. They earned it through our stupidity. And it was almost too much to overcome. Yes, I'd still be bitching. I'm worried about this team.

A blocked fieldgoal isnt a fluke. Its a breakdown in protection.

Sending out a scrub to hold for a field goal kicked by your punter, who then tries to flip a pass in the air as time expires resulting in a 10 point swing......would be the very definition of fluke.

Will. never. happen. again.

Fluke.

 

[formido]

We are what we are.

Not sure we can complain about it, it just looks like it might be that this team is nowhere near as good as I expected it would be.

Does anyone else believe we can beat NO in Seattle if we play like this? Then again based on how we have been playing recently a lot of other teams on the schedule look more dangerous than I would have expected.

Can we get better? Hopefully. If we don't? Then we probably do not have to worry about it because it won't matter.

To repeat the question, the game really was 23-6 if not for the fluke.

Are you feeling this way if the final is 23-6??

It wasn't a fluke. Not perfectly round or predictable, it was a football. And that's the name of the game. The fumbles we recovered, were they flukes, too?

Not nitpicking you, but the sooner you discard this idea of discounting "flukes", the better off you'll be. We had a few fluke plays in the SB, too. But they counted as though they were not....and always will. And this why some of us are less than thrilled with today's performance. Happy? Of course. But thrilled in no shape or form. 3 weeks in a row we've played down to the level of our opponent, IMO. That needs to stop if we are going yard.

But there are flukes. Point scoring in football is not continuous with quality of play. We didn't play down to the Titans today. As pointed out, without a fluky play at the end of the 1st half, add 10 points of margin of difference to the score. We dominated. Separating the raw score from the particulars of what happened in the game is how, for example, Football Outsiders still had Seattle ranked #2 in the NFL last week even though there were two other teams with undefeated records.

 

[RolandDeschain]

The optimists think the pessimists are overreacting and being overly critical in a win. The pessimists think the optimists are ignoring obvious negatives and just seeing things through there blue glasses.

Just another day on .net.

p.s. Us optimists rule!

So if we don't fix our offensive problems and lose our first playoff game, will you feel better for having been optimistic because of all the regular season wins we accrued? Ask Denver if they'd swap last year's 13-3 record for a 10-6 one but with them winning a playoff game, and see what they say.

 

[Vpk0718]

We want SUPER BOWLS. This team was NOT a Super Bowl caliber team today, people have a right to be upset. Things should/will get cleaned up but it is actually ok to not be happy with a teams performance.

The 2007 Patriots were Super Bowl caliber in Week 6. The 2012 Ravens weren't Super Bowl caliber until January. Which one of those teams has a Lombardi?

 

[themunn]

We want SUPER BOWLS. This team was NOT a Super Bowl caliber team today, people have a right to be upset. Things should/will get cleaned up but it is actually ok to not be happy with a teams performance.

Do you know which teams looked like Superbowl contenders in October last year?
The Falcons
In 2011?
The Packers
In 2010?
The Patriots
In 2009?
The Colts
In 2008?
The Titans
In 2007?
The Patriots

What do they all have in common?

 

[bmorepunk]

We want SUPER BOWLS. This team was NOT a Super Bowl caliber team today, people have a right to be upset. Things should/will get cleaned up but it is actually ok to not be happy with a teams performance.

The 2007 Patriots were Super Bowl caliber in Week 6. The 2012 Ravens weren't Super Bowl caliber until January. Which one of those teams has a Lombardi?

The Ravens lost four out of their last five games going into the playoffs. The entire year Ravens fans were whining because most of the time (even in wins) they didn't play well at all. Even the fan parallels about having to get home field advantage are the same (as soon as the Ravens were out of that the season was "lost"). Teams rarely look great most of the season then win a Super Bowl in recent years.

You know the other thing Ravens fans whine about? Media bias against them.