I think we're selling Percy Harvin short

[mjwhitay]

I completely disagree that anyone is selling him short.

He's not played a football game in a year due to injuries, and this is a player whose best quality is explosive athleticism.

So waiting to see what he can do is fair enough IMO.

And most people are salivating at the idea of him playing on Sunday anyway. I'd argue we need to be patient and prepared for a quiet year. The chances are he won't be the same Percy who was an MVP candidate last season. Next year if he stays healthy, hopefully we'll see him at his best.

I don't understand, in the slightest, how he wouldn't be the same player? You think Carroll is rushing a superstar back to field on a 9-1 team, playing one of the worst teams in the league, if he's not 100%?

Uhhhhh.... No

 

[plyka]

The amount of 12s about to be dangling from Percy's sack in a couple weeks is gonna be staggering. I am very confident that there isn't going to be much ypc and yac talk and all this jibber-jabbering about his shortcomings or his attitude or anything. This franchise hasn't had a playmaker of this caliber. Ever. He's got fresh legs in November and it's about to get all sorts of raucous up in here. The only thing lanyone is about to be saying is "WOW"

Correct but what makes it insane is we basically score both a top 5 quarterback and wide receiver the same age and NFL proven for minimum 5 years after this year.

U.fortunately this is doubtful. Percy is awesome but he is the complete opposite of Wilson in the injury prone department. Wilson is like a scrap of iron as drago once said while percy is made of glass. I think Percy will be in and out of injury his entire stay here I'm just hoping he can survive through this years playoffs.

I can't understand this view given he missed like 4 games before last year and was put on IR because of politics. He called both Frazier and Childress out and Ponder....hmm...who do you think among the four choices has a leadership job in 2015? He's actually not injury prone but to compare him with Wilson is silly given they play different positions and it seems Wilson is Peyton tough.

We have NEVER had a gamebreaker like this before Wilson and now he gets his Jerry Rice BFF? Ridiculous.

You're all over the place with this post. Different conversations between his quality, ability, talent and production versus his tendency to injuries. If you think he has missed only four games in his career you're mistaken. Check on your facts he has missed games every year he has been in the nfl. Anyone have the actual facts on how many games he has played per year of his career? I'm in the ferry with my phone so I can't check myself.

 

[Wee-Bey]

I completely disagree that anyone is selling him short.

He's not played a football game in a year due to injuries, and this is a player whose best quality is explosive athleticism.

So waiting to see what he can do is fair enough IMO.

And most people are salivating at the idea of him playing on Sunday anyway. I'd argue we need to be patient and prepared for a quiet year. The chances are he won't be the same Percy who was an MVP candidate last season. Next year if he stays healthy, hopefully we'll see him at his best.

I don't understand, in the slightest, how he wouldn't be the same player? You think Carroll is rushing a superstar back to field on a 9-1 team, playing one of the worst teams in the league, if he's not 100%?

Uhhhhh.... No

Before his injury against Seattle last season, he had missed 3 games in 4 seasons. 1 in 09-10, 2 in 10-11, none in 11-12. Most of those due to migraines.

 

[mjwhitay]

You're all over the place with this post. Different conversations between his quality, ability, talent and production versus his tendency to injuries. If you think he has missed only four games in his career you're mistaken. Check on your facts he has missed games every year he has been in the nfl. Anyone have the actual facts on how many games he has played per year of his career? I'm in the ferry with my phone so I can't check myself.

Yeah. I can. He missed a game in his rookie year for migraines and another in 2010 for migraines. Only missed one other game in 2010 until last year's Seahawks game. Yes, he twisted an ankle last year and had his hip issue this training camp, but to claim he has been injury prone throughout his career is just incredibly inaccurate.

Oh, in case you didn't know, he runs like Marshawn Lynch and initiates more contact than any WR in the league. I guess Julio Jones is injury prone too. He's missed a game or two in his career, then was placed in IR this season. Can't see why the Falcons want that guy around.

 

[Tical21]

Percy rarely misses games. But he also rarely practices. He's always hurt, seldom injured. I would bet money that since he has been in the league, he has been on more injury reports than anybody in the NFL, sans Brady. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to how big of a deal that is. However, I think it is incorrect to say he is a big risk to miss games, but also think it is incorrect to conclude he has been healthy.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Percy rarely misses games. But he also rarely practices. He's always hurt, seldom injured. I would bet money that since he has been in the league, he has been on more injury reports than anybody in the NFL, sans Brady. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to how big of a deal that is. However, I think it is incorrect to say he is a big risk to miss games, but also think it is incorrect to conclude he has been healthy.

You'll be hangin by week 14.

 

[mjwhitay]

Percy rarely misses games. But he also rarely practices. He's always hurt, seldom injured. I would bet money that since he has been in the league, he has been on more injury reports than anybody in the NFL, sans Brady. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to how big of a deal that is. However, I think it is incorrect to say he is a big risk to miss games, but also think it is incorrect to conclude he has been healthy.

Marshawn Lynch is on the injury report every single week. Draw your own conclusions....

 

[Lords of Scythia]

Harvin is like Okung--spectacular at their position until that ONE PLAY when they fall down and they can't get up.

 

[Lords of Scythia]

I don't think we're selling him short. Unlike previous years, we aren't asking someone like him to put the team on their shoulders to push us over the top. We have the luxury of adding him to an already stacked and dangerous team and I'm loving it.

We're gonna start losing players every year to higher bidders. A lot of our key guys (the whole Legion of Boom) are on nickle-dime contracts. This might be our best year. Harvin is taking up a hell of a lot of cap space and starting next year we WILL be putting a lot on his shoulders.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

I don't think we're selling him short. Unlike previous years, we aren't asking someone like him to put the team on their shoulders to push us over the top. We have the luxury of adding him to an already stacked and dangerous team and I'm loving it.

We're gonna start losing players every year to higher bidders. A lot of our key guys (the whole Legion of Boom) are on nickle-dime contracts. This might be our best year. Harvin is taking up a hell of a lot of cap space and starting next year we WILL be putting a lot on his shoulders.

Can't really disagree with that but let's see if they pull a little magic when the time comes.I trust they have a plan and knew exactly what they were doing when they traded for and signed Percy.

 

[brimsalabim]

What are you guys talking about...detente? This is football. If the guy is cleared to play and healthy then for gosh sake use him. Let the man do his job!

 

[Tical21]

Percy rarely misses games. But he also rarely practices. He's always hurt, seldom injured. I would bet money that since he has been in the league, he has been on more injury reports than anybody in the NFL, sans Brady. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to how big of a deal that is. However, I think it is incorrect to say he is a big risk to miss games, but also think it is incorrect to conclude he has been healthy.

Marshawn Lynch is on the injury report every single week. Draw your own conclusions....

I know this is probably nitpicking, but there isn't a position on the field that needs less practice than a RB. Well, maybe a DT. But that is about it.

 

[mjwhitay]

Being on the injury report and not practicing are not mutually exclusive.... I give up

 

[scutterhawk]

So, dispute me if I am wrong. Branch comes in as a prolific many catch lots of yards and TD's guy and disappears. Same with Miller. Rice. We sign all these nice offensive pieces and then just send them to purgatory due to our philosophy.

That is WHY, Tate, Baldwin, Kearse etc do well as far as we fans are concerned. We do NOT emphasize someone. We spread the ball around the entire universe offensively.

So does that mean that Marshawn being a RB makes him exempt?
IF you're not spreading the ball around, you're not maximizing opportunities, just having Harvin in the game, opens up a whole another page in the Offensive playbook.
IF we're able to slice up Defenses, what difference does it make WHO gets the majority of the passes, as Harvin's threat alone could be the DIFFERENCE to whether or not the Defenses are out gunned?
AND, we've yet to even see Harvin run out on the field in a Seahawks uniform, and already you have him earmarked as a candidate for "Purgatory"?

 

[Monistat]

Harvin has been my favorite non-seahawks player since he entered the league. I was fortunate enough to watch a lot of Vikings games when the Hawks were not on because it was my room mates favorite team. So you can imagine the excitement when it was announced we had traded for him. It's been beaten to death if it was worth it or not with what we gave up but if he plays as consistent as he has over his 4 years in the NFL that will be well worth it imo. And has been mentioned in this thread it's scary to think what he can do with and actual QB and be in an offense where there is more than one weapon.

 

[scutterhawk]

Well having it up in the air and Harvin on the 53 man roster if nothing else makes Minnesota have spend time looking at old film of how Bevell used him and then look at current play sets and guess best they can on how he will be used here. Thats a lot of time wasted if he doesn't even see the field by the Vikings. Something I could see Pete doing.

Maybe so chris, but I see a win-win for Pete here, because as you say, Minn. may have to spend time going over old film on Harvin, but they would still have to concede to the dilemma of trying to account for the variables they will be facing.
Because Tate, Kearse, and Lynch (his now teammates), they won't be able to key on Harvin, because if they do spend too much time formulating a Defense to isolate him, they leave someone else to brake them.
and even if you do find a way to contain them (extremely unlikely), they still have to contend with Russell Wilson. :16:
I think Pete will play Harvin, even if only sparingly in this game.

 

[Dismas]

If I recall correctly from a thread initiated when the Harvin trade first happened, a Minny fan came here and said something to the tune of:

Harvin does not miss many games due to injury, but seems to miss a heckuva lot of snaps during games to being shook up, dinged up, or whatever.

My suspicion, in relation to the Seahawks, is that with the abundance of skill guys we have, Percy likely will not be asked to take every single snap on the offense, so perhaps he will manage to be preserved a bit throughout the games, and up being available for more snaps over time than with the Vikings.

Regardless, I am pretty excited to see him start adding clips to the highlight reel while wearing a Seahawk uniform . . these are fun days indeed to be a Seattle fan, eh?

 

[chris98251]

Welcome to the Seahawks Percy, didn't take long to make an impact, first down catch for 17 yards and a Kick return, complete surprise on the KR didn't think they would expose him so soon.

 

[sutz]

Welcome to the Seahawks Percy, didn't take long to make an impact, first down catch for 17 yards and a Kick return, complete surprise on the KR didn't think they would expose him so soon.

Probably wouldn't if Kearse hadn't been hurt.