Hunting for QB of the future

[GemCity]

Quarterbacks are more "nurture" than they are "nature."

There are plenty of talented quarterbacks to be had, whether they be second-chance veterans or draftees in any stage of the draft.

The simple fact is that if you have an organization and a team that can support a quarterback, they'll flourish. If you don't, they'll fail.

Take Green Bay, Minnesota, and San Francisco for example.

Green Bay took Jordan Love and developed him with all of the patience in the world. Now they have what most agree looks like a franchise guy. They acquired Malik Willis, a huge bust and a passer who wasn't very good to begin with as a prospect. He's played at his ceiling in spot duty. These guys would have failed elsewhere, and did in Malik's case.

Minnesota is squeezing near MVP play out of retread bust Sam Darnold. This is the first time he's been supported like he's currently being supported, and the obvious talent he's always had is finally coming together with quarterback friendly coaching and a good roster.

San Francisco had JIMMY GAROPPOLO TAKE THEM TO A SUPER BOWL. Is that the type of quarterback you are pining for? No. Geno is 100% superior to Jimmy G in every way except jawline. But success is possible when you've got a team and staff capable of supporting the quarterback! And now they're a juggernaut with Mr. Irrelevant. This isn't luck!

It's not the quarterback, guys. It rarely is. It's coaching, it's development, it's supporting cast, it's environment...

We gotta figure out the system before wasting assets on a quarterback who'll be thrown in a spot to fail. Quarterback will be an easier need to fill after that, and frankly, it won't look like such a need if we fix the system.

“…except jawline”

 

[JayhawkMike]

Always have liked Baker. Even wanted him to come here. Then he had a bad year and I shut up about it. I am back to thinking he's a top 10-15 QB.

 

[chris98251]

Need to Fix O line before our QB's become gun shy and develop habits we can't fix, David Carr syndrome type effects. Once we break them it can take years or never to fix it, Ric Mirer took a long time, he became a serviceable back up but our bad O line experience messed him up bad.

 

[Seahawks fan]

Never had the firepower to get any of those guys...

 

[SNDavidson]

competition at 30 years old? Him vs Sam vs Rookie makes a good value qb room for 2025.

 

[SNDavidson]

5. Chad Kelly, QB, Toronto Argonauts​

Toronto Argonauts quarterback Chad Kelly burst onto the scene last year in his first season as a starter by leading his team to a 16-2 record, en route to winning the CFL’s Most Outstanding Player award and being named as a league All-Star.

The 30-year-old recorded 270 completions for 4,123 passing yards and 23 touchdowns, finishing top-five in each category. He also ran for eight touchdowns while averaging 6.0 yards per rush attempt.

Toronto will have to overcome Kelly’s absence for at least the first nine games of the season after he was suspended by the league office last month.

link The full TSN’s Top 50 CFL Player rankings

 

[warden]

Let’s build a team especially offensive line before we worry about the QB of the future. Most rookie QBs would be destroyed playing behind our crappy line

 

[GetNjigbaWithIt]

You mean the guy who set the league record for rookie passing TDs?

That would be Justin Herbert.

 

[Rat]

That would be Justin Herbert.

Yes, that's why I said Baker "set" the record rather than "holds".

 

[Spohawks]

The winning formula is draft all O-line next year, snag D-line players in FA and then trade all of 2026 draft picks to move up to number 1 and get Manning.

 

[Maelstrom787]

5. Chad Kelly, QB, Toronto Argonauts​

Toronto Argonauts quarterback Chad Kelly burst onto the scene last year in his first season as a starter by leading his team to a 16-2 record, en route to winning the CFL’s Most Outstanding Player award and being named as a league All-Star.

The 30-year-old recorded 270 completions for 4,123 passing yards and 23 touchdowns, finishing top-five in each category. He also ran for eight touchdowns while averaging 6.0 yards per rush attempt.

Toronto will have to overcome Kelly’s absence for at least the first nine games of the season after he was suspended by the league office last month.

link The full TSN’s Top 50 CFL Player rankings

I'm good. Chad always had talent, but he's a massive prick. Unless he's done a complete makeover of his personality.

 

[Palmegranite]

I'm good. Chad always had talent, but he's a massive prick. Unless he's done a complete makeover of his personality.

Were you his roommate or something?
Your post implies you know him personally.

 

[Appyhawk]

Always have liked Baker. Even wanted him to come here. Then he had a bad year and I shut up about it. I am back to thinking he's a top 10-15 QB.

Never cared for Baker but I sure will be rooting for him to have a great game tomorrow.
As for our QBOTF my guy Jalon Daniels show signs of returning to his former self last week, and is really shining so far today vs Iowa St. If he can keep this up the rest of the year I might have to restart lobbying for him as our guy. Just completed four consecutive TD drives and has hit a number of thrillers in the passing dept. He is one very exciting player to watch.

 

[JayhawkMike]

Never cared for Baker but I sure will be rooting for him to have a great game tomorrow.
As for our QBOTF my guy Jalon Daniels show signs of returning to his former self last week, and is really shining so far today vs Iowa St. If he can keep this up the rest of the year I might have to restart lobbying for him as our guy. Just completed four consecutive TD drives and has hit a number of thrillers in the passing dept. He is one very exciting player to watch.

Me and my user name agrees. He's had an inconsistent season under a new OC. Should be easily draftable and not an early first round pick.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Were you his roommate or something?
Your post implies you know him personally.

Thanks for the rhetorical question, but we're talking about Chad Kelly.

He flamed out of the NFL so badly after 2 suspensions that he had to go be a low-level coach for a while.

He's now in the CFL, where he got suspended for 9 games this year for sexual misconduct against a former member of the Argos training staff. He's on his last chance with them and is facing a ban if he doesn't continually meet their conditions.

Yeah, I'm gonna pass on the dude who has screwed up every chance he's gotten in the past 6 years and is a hair away from getting banned from the CFL.

 

[Palmegranite]

Looks like he just snapped his leg in the 3rd quarter of the CFL Eastern final.

QBOTF appears out of reach now.

 

[SNDavidson]

He's got 8 months lol

 

[Sperrydogg]

Quarterbacks are more "nurture" than they are "nature."

There are plenty of talented quarterbacks to be had, whether they be second-chance veterans or draftees in any stage of the draft.

The simple fact is that if you have an organization and a team that can support a quarterback, they'll flourish. If you don't, they'll fail.

Take Green Bay, Minnesota, and San Francisco for example.

Green Bay took Jordan Love and developed him with all of the patience in the world. Now they have what most agree looks like a franchise guy. They acquired Malik Willis, a huge bust and a passer who wasn't very good to begin with as a prospect. He's played at his ceiling in spot duty. These guys would have failed elsewhere, and did in Malik's case.

Minnesota is squeezing near MVP play out of retread bust Sam Darnold. This is the first time he's been supported like he's currently being supported, and the obvious talent he's always had is finally coming together with quarterback friendly coaching and a good roster.

San Francisco had JIMMY GAROPPOLO TAKE THEM TO A SUPER BOWL. Is that the type of quarterback you are pining for? No. Geno is 100% superior to Jimmy G in every way except jawline. But success is possible when you've got a team and staff capable of supporting the quarterback! And now they're a juggernaut with Mr. Irrelevant. This isn't luck!

It's not the quarterback, guys. It rarely is. It's coaching, it's development, it's supporting cast, it's environment...

We gotta figure out the system before wasting assets on a quarterback who'll be thrown in a spot to fail. Quarterback will be an easier need to fill after that, and frankly, it won't look like such a need if we fix the system.

Even the Seahawks had a great run with Russell and it was not cause of Russell. He was pretty good but the cast around him did their part

 

[Sperrydogg]

Quarterback?!?!!

I just hope Schneider gets better or we get a new GM that can actually draft and build a good offensive line!!

Until, then, quarterback may not even matter, if we keep pushing out backup offensive lineman moonlighting as NFL caliber starters!!!

Offensive line is the utmost number one need on this team…….

I’ve never imagined getting a GM and hoping he would improve…

 

[Sperrydogg]

All I know is we need to figure out the Howell question This year ON the field.

playing this out with Geno and then simply declaring Howell the starter next year is a recipe for another wasted year. If Howell does well this year then maybe the question is settled. If he stinks we go a different direction. I have no idea how he will do as a Seahawk starter And didn’t like the trade but am curious.

I guess, I mean why did they even trade for Howell? To be the back-up? For the future!?

Starting to seem weird