Hawks success against 49'ers home vs away

[niveky]

Has anyone else been thinking how at C-Link the Hawks are destorying the 49'ers and how at Candlestick the 49'ers are just squeaking by with the win. 6 point game there last year and barely a 2 point game in the final couple of minutes from a clutch drive at the end. Anything can happen, but unless there are major changes I don't see the 49'ers doing any differently at c-link for at least another year or two and the Hawks are going to end up coming out with the w's at candlestick since the 49'ers can't pull away like the hawks can at their own stadium.

 

[LickMyNuts]

I don't think you can compare last years game in San Fran with a RW limited in the offense to this years game.

I can tell you that the Seahawks sometimes struggle to get into a rhythm on the road. Last weeks game against San Fran was one step forward and two steps back.

 

[bellingerga]

I don't think you can compare last years game in San Fran with a RW limited in the offense to this years game.

I can tell you that the Seahawks sometimes struggle to get into a rhythm on the road. Last weeks game against San Fran was one step forward and two steps back.

Shitloads of penalties tend to have the effect of throwing off a rythm. I think if the team plays a little more disciplined we'll see some pretty nice results.

Also these refs can go to hell.

 

[lvnginhwktwn]

9 for 85 vs 7 for 70 bad and missed calls on both sides. So do you really think the noise level at the Clink has nothing to do with the lopsided outcomes of games there vs the stick. Kinda hard to change a play if no one can hear you. That's why they call it home field advantage.

Look at the last two season, blow outs vs close games, only difference is location. At the stick even though we have the HFA it is actually more of a level playing field. I think if our two teams met on a truely nuetral field it would be a game like the last that could have gone either way.

This is why you want HFA so bad, you know it gives you an edge. I dont have a problem with that, I do have a problem with Hawk fans that are in denial about that advantage.

 

[djb28]

NO DENIAL HERE> WE EVEN YELL AT THE TV!

 

[BreesIsOverrated]

Home Field Advantage helps us that's for sure. But we are still a terrific team on the road. 49ers on the other hand might end up at 4-4 on the road and out of the playoffs.

 

[253hawk]

Since the division realignment in 2002, here's some averages:

SEA @ SC - 242 / 245 points (20.166 / 20.4166 PPG)
SC @ SEA - 165 / 323 points (13.75 / 26.9166 PPG)

Hawks are just dominant at home (owning the only two shutouts in the series) and always playing it close on the road. That's about all you can really ask for.

 

[slipwax]

9 for 85 vs 7 for 70 bad and missed calls on both sides. So do you really think the noise level at the Clink has nothing to do with the lopsided outcomes of games there vs the stick. Kinda hard to change a play if no one can hear you. That's why they call it home field advantage.

Look at the last two season, blow outs vs close games, only difference is location. At the stick even though we have the HFA it is actually more of a level playing field. I think if our two teams met on a truely nuetral field it would be a game like the last that could have gone either way.

This is why you want HFA so bad, you know it gives you an edge. I dont have a problem with that, I do have a problem with Hawk fans that are in denial about that advantage.

I don't think anyone is in denial about our home field advantage. It's the best in the league. Some fans take issue with the perception that this team cannot win on the road, even though it has proved that it can

 

[AROS]

9 for 85 vs 7 for 70 bad and missed calls on both sides. So do you really think the noise level at the Clink has nothing to do with the lopsided outcomes of games there vs the stick. Kinda hard to change a play if no one can hear you. That's why they call it home field advantage.

Look at the last two season, blow outs vs close games, only difference is location. At the stick even though we have the HFA it is actually more of a level playing field. I think if our two teams met on a truely nuetral field it would be a game like the last that could have gone either way.

This is why you want HFA so bad, you know it gives you an edge. I dont have a problem with that, I do have a problem with Hawk fans that are in denial about that advantage.

The noise IS a huge factor. Anybody who says otherwise is in denial. However, no amount of noise can by itself score touchdowns, sack the QB, pick off passes, make great plays. That is all on the players. The noise is the fuel, but the players are the engine that makes the car go.

Let's not let the story of the noise lose sight of the fact that our players are DAMN good.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

I think Pete is purposely more conservative on the road because of his 'protect the ball' mentality. That, and I think he's easily sucked into a 'defensive battle' because that's his specialty and he enjoys it. At times, I think pride (our defense is better than yours) causes him to be reluctant in switching strategies. If you are playing against a really good D in their home, that's not the best time to have a knock-down, drag-out defensive battle...especially against a team that can defend against darn near anything from their base set. Further, their guys are bigger, so they are less likely to get completely worn down against the run late in a game. Our lighter packages are much more susceptible to that.

IMO, the Niners game should have been put on Russell's shoulders at halftime. Protecting the ball is innate with him, so I don't know why the coaches wring their hands over that sort of thing. It's almost like they've had nothing but game-manager QB's until now, but that's not so either, so I'm a bit confused. I will give the Niners D credit for making the plays they had to make, but we weren't nearly aggressive enough in exploiting their weaknesses.

 

[AROS]

I think Pete is purposely more conservative on the road because of his 'protect the ball' mentality. That, and I think he's easily sucked into a 'defensive battle' because that's his specialty and he enjoys it. At times, I think pride (our defense is better than yours) causes him to be reluctant in switching strategies. If you are playing against a really good D in their home, that's not the best time to have a knock-down, drag-out defensive battle...especially against a team that can defend against darn near anything from their base set. Further, their guys are bigger, so they are less likely to get completely worn down against the run late in a game. Our lighter packages are much more susceptible to that.

IMO, the Niners game should have been put on Russell's shoulders at halftime. Protecting the ball is innate with him, so I don't know why the coaches wring their hands over that sort of thing. It's almost like they've had nothing but game-manager QB's until now, but that's not so either, so I'm a bit confused. I will give the Niners D credit for making the plays they had to make, but we weren't nearly aggressive enough in exploiting their weaknesses.

+1

 

[Giedi]

I think the Seahawk defense can give more disguised looks at home forcing teams to audible once they get out of those looks. I've seen the 'Hawk defense give a zone look and then shift alignment to Man press, and visa versa, and it's awfully hard for an offense to adjust if they can't audible. Pete does a great job of making the defense look like another defense, to take advantage of that 12th man, no doubt about it.

 

[Popeyejones]

The noise is obviously a huge factor. We would predict the noise to have a big effect on offense for the 9ers, but not defense. I think the failures of the offense also explain the blowout at the CLink earlier this year. The game really went off the rails for the 9ers in the 4th quarter, but the defense had held the Hawks offense to 10 points through three quarters, and the 9ers offense had five turnovers in that game, managed all of 200 yards total, and certainly wasn't helping at all. Despite the final score the 9ers defensive performance was actually pretty strong, it's the offense that was in mud.

It will be a little different in that the 9ers really dramatically changed their pre-snap offensive philosophy because of that game and never looked back (and have struggled for it offensively, IMO), but I'd still expect the Hawks to win at home. That's obviously because the Hawks are a great team, but the effect of the noise when the opposing team is on offense can't be discounted IMO, and is the difference between close games and non-close games IMO, and the 9ers were particularly prone to being punished by it.

 

[rlkats]

in that game I expected to see the hawks guns blazing. The opprotunity to clinch the division with a first round bye and more than likely homefield. You better believe the hawks players wanted that game BAD. Just as Sherman said "this is a practice". I feel some of the hawks players got a tad lax in their attitude. maybe thought they could be conservative and still win. they did not expect the Niners to play like they did. Now i fully expect the next game to be way different. But I was blown away in this game. Glad my team won just a bit shocked on how the attitude was a bit overconfident

 

[SF49r]

Week 2 was actually a pretty close game. Don't let the score fool you, it was 3-12 going into the 4th quarter. Only until the 49ers started committing turnovers was when the seahawks started to run-up the score. Take away those turnovers and it would have turned into a game like we saw last week.

 

[hawker84]

9 for 85 vs 7 for 70 bad and missed calls on both sides. So do you really think the noise level at the Clink has nothing to do with the lopsided outcomes of games there vs the stick. Kinda hard to change a play if no one can hear you. That's why they call it home field advantage.

Look at the last two season, blow outs vs close games, only difference is location. At the stick even though we have the HFA it is actually more of a level playing field. I think if our two teams met on a truely nuetral field it would be a game like the last that could have gone either way.

This is why you want HFA so bad, you know it gives you an edge. I dont have a problem with that, I do have a problem with Hawk fans that are in denial about that advantage.

Who's in denial? We pride ourselves on being able to effect the game? where you getting that from?

 

[hawker84]

Week 2 was actually a pretty close game. Don't let the score fool you, it was 3-12 going into the 4th quarter. Only until the 49ers started committing turnovers was when the seahawks started to run-up the score. Take away those turnovers and it would have turned into a game like we saw last week.

You mean when the Seahawks started forcing turnovers, why is it so hard for niner fans to give credit where credit is due?

Those turnovers didn't just happen magically.
The fumble in wk 1 against Carolina didn't just happen magically, it was a great play by ET.
The win against Tampa Bay didn't just happen, we shut them down and dominated in the second half.
The interception against Houston wasn't magical either, it was a great play by an all pro corner to seal the game.

Here's a news flash, the Seahawks have a elite ballhawking defense that actually does a lot of film study and preperation for their opponents which allows them to be able to create turnovers and opportunities for our offense.
we also have one of the best special teams units in the league that does the same. A bit sick of the whole Seahawks are lucky other teams turn the ball over crap...

 

[rjas77]

9 for 85 vs 7 for 70 bad and missed calls on both sides. So do you really think the noise level at the Clink has nothing to do with the lopsided outcomes of games there vs the stick. Kinda hard to change a play if no one can hear you. That's why they call it home field advantage.

Look at the last two season, blow outs vs close games, only difference is location. At the stick even though we have the HFA it is actually more of a level playing field. I think if our two teams met on a truely nuetral field it would be a game like the last that could have gone either way.

I'll argue the last two games plaid in your house were already games that did go either way.

In your house...you guys squeaked by..up here it's been a slaughter

 

[rjas77]

replied to the wrong post..

 

[Popeyejones]

Here's a news flash, the Seahawks have a elite ballhawking defense that actually does a lot of film study and preperation for their opponents which allows them to be able to create turnovers and opportunities for our offense.

I don't think anybody claimed that wasn't true.

Under Carroll and Harbaugh's respective stewardship the 49ers have forced 87 turnovers and the Seahawks have forced 90 turnovers. Hooray?