Good summary article on the Grubb 'era' -

[SoulfishHawk]

Yep. Still seems childish to just blast a guy and call him an idiot. Just an observation. He'll be just fine in Alabama.
Dude was coaching in the NFL and has been a hell of a coordinator in college. Pretty far from an idiot. As opposed to a bunch of us keyboard warriors

 

[toffee]

YOUNG

My bad, young Macdonald's stock is UP UP UP.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

There we go, kid.

 

[olyfan63]

A few pointers from this article:

1. Schneider knew Grubb a lot longer and better than Macdonald.
2. We were late and desperate to sign an OC.
3. All the established candidates were taken or not interested in our opening.
4. Macdonald had reservations about Grubb's pass-happy offense even at the pizza meeting.
5. Good that Geno kept his mouth shut, although DK voiced about lack of running plays.

I always suspect Grubb was more a Schneider hire than a Macdonald hire. With a 10 win season and the failure of Grubb, Macdonald's stock is UP, Schneider's DOWN.

Well said. As you said, Schneider vouched for Grubb, and Macdonald basically acquiesced, having no better available options.
Way too slow to adjust to the NFL game. Hell, when I was coaching girls soccer, like the club's "B" team with glaring flaws, I analyzed the hell out of every game, win or lose, noted opponents strengths and weaknesses, how to neutralize or exploit, and next time we played them, came in with a game plan to put my players in the best position. Boggles the mind how Grubb so often failed to do that, and was overconfident and stubborn, to the point of being delusional.

Can't recall who said it, but looking back, MICHIGAN figured out Grubb's offense in the National Championship game and exploited the weaknesses and tip-offs in his scheme. That coulda, shoulda, been a warning, in hindsight.

* The highlight of that year was earning a 1-1 tie with the club's "A" team in a summer tournament and causing them to nearly miss the finals. Players 19-37 tied players 1-18. Like winning the Super Bowl for those girls. "A" team won the tournament final the next day in a blowout.

 

[rjdriver]

I’m honestly surprised MM didn’t look like one of those angry looney tunes characters about to blow his top when Grubb had like 7 tries to score from the one and called shit pass plays on most of them.

That’s like being married to a woman who you catch being bukkake’d by ten dudes while she’s cosplaying in her wedding dress.

She may be a great mother and PTA president, but you just can’t recover from that.

 

[olyfan63]

Yep. Still seems childish to just blast a guy and call him an idiot. Just an observation. He'll be just fine in Alabama.
Dude was coaching in the NFL and has been a hell of a coordinator in college. Pretty far from an idiot. As opposed to a bunch of us keyboard warriors

Grubb may not be "fine" in Alabama (assuming he goes there) given how Michigan figured him out in the BCS final last year, and how NFL defenses figured out Grubb's offense this year. (Grubb did finally call a good game in week 18 vs the Rams, too little, too late)

Though Alabama would do well with Grubb's attack-the-weak-personnel vs. an "attack-the-scheme" approach. Alabama generally has the horses to make this workable, at least against 90% of opponents.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, I think he's gonna' be fine in the college. That's my opinion.

 

[toffee]

I wish coach Grubb all the best, he looked like a very likable kind of guy and he obviously could relate and motivate the college players. At the Seahawks, he allowed himself to be convinced that his system could work in the NFL after the early season success

I still felt that young MacDonald (happy now @SoulfishHawk), pulled the trigger 5 games too late and allowed Jake Peetz to finish the season. We can either find a treasure in Jake or eliminate him from consideration. Macdonald might be ready after he read toffee's remove Grubb thread 6 games ago, but Schneider might be the unmovable obstacle. Besides, toffee was the lone voice, majority on dot net preached more time and patience.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

So young. So happy.

 

[Chukarhawk]

6 games, that's how long until .net is calling for the new OC to be fired. Like clockwork. It is known.

 

[Jac]

A few pointers from this article:

1. Schneider knew Grubb a lot longer and better than Macdonald.
2. We were late and desperate to sign an OC.
3. All the established candidates were taken or not interested in our opening.
4. Macdonald had reservations about Grubb's pass-happy offense even at the pizza meeting.
5. Good that Geno kept his mouth shut, although DK voiced about lack of running plays.

I always suspect Grubb was more a Schneider hire than a Macdonald hire. With a 10 win season and the failure of Grubb, Macdonald's stock is UP, Schneider's DOWN.

Yeah, I'm actually quite encouraged by this. Macdonald knew it was a problem, tried to get Grubb to fix the problem, and would have come across as completely dysfunctional as a first-year HC to fire him midseason. But at his first opportunity, he removed the problem and did so professionally. Most rookie HC's fall on their face in year one and never turn it around. Macdonald produced 10 wins while running an offense that wasn't helping in the way it should (it took us until Week #18 to win a shootout?)

 

[WmHBonney]

Good read. Predictable result when you don't listen to your superiors.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And when that Superior is coach Mike? Deuces.
He's the boss, clearly.

 

[nanomoz]

You can't overstate the importance of a shared vision, and alignment up and down the org chart to enact that vision.

 

[GetNjigbaWithIt]

I wish coach Grubb all the best, he looked like a very likable kind of guy and he obviously could relate and motivate the college players. At the Seahawks, he allowed himself to be convinced that his system could work in the NFL after the early season success

I still felt that young MacDonald (happy now @SoulfishHawk), pulled the trigger 5 games too late and allowed Jake Peetz to finish the season. We can either find a treasure in Jake or eliminate him from consideration. Macdonald might be ready after he read toffee's remove Grubb thread 6 games ago, but Schneider might be the unmovable obstacle. Besides, toffee was the lone voice, majority on dot net preached more time and patience.

I think MM decided long ago, that he & Grubb were never gonna be in alignment, which begs the question, if he felt Peetz, who's been in-house all season, was a better option, why didn't he pull the trigger mid-season?

 

[keasley45]

I wish coach Grubb all the best, he looked like a very likable kind of guy and he obviously could relate and motivate the college players. At the Seahawks, he allowed himself to be convinced that his system could work in the NFL after the early season success

I still felt that young MacDonald (happy now @SoulfishHawk), pulled the trigger 5 games too late and allowed Jake Peetz to finish the season. We can either find a treasure in Jake or eliminate him from consideration. Macdonald might be ready after he read toffee's remove Grubb thread 6 games ago, but Schneider might be the unmovable obstacle. Besides, toffee was the lone voice, majority on dot net preached more time and patience.

Pulling Grubb would have been possible, but hard. He showed life after the Cards game, so the place you would have yanked him would have been after GB. But we still had a chnaxe at the playoff. Had Mac yanked him and we lost on a poor offensive showing under Peetz, ... that wouldnt have been a good look.

It was just an unfortunate marriage.

 

[olyfan63]

Well, I think he's gonna' be fine in the college. That's my opinion.

I'm sure you're right. At least until BCS CFP quarters or semis. There's enough tape out now on how to frustrate his scheme. How many more Penix's and Odunze's and dominating O-Lines will he get handed? Sure, at 'Bama, odds are decent.

 

[Aircrew]

From the sounds of it, if Sunday had been a home game, Grubb would have been fired that evening. And the only people pissed that he was fired are Husky fans.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm a huge Husky fan. I'm not pissed he was fired at all. I'm glad they moved on. Bad fit and the play calling was brutal, much of the season.
Talk about a stretch.

 

[toffee]

I think MM decided long ago, that he & Grubb were never gonna be in alignment, which begs the question, if he felt Peetz, who's been in-house all season, was a better option, why didn't he pull the trigger mid-season?

We shall never know,