Geno ain't goin' anywhere -

[Wsumatt1982]

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Who? Do you have a name for me? I want to watch his film.

personally I think Ewers is the guy over Shough. Ewers will only be 22 in a couple weeks. 2024 he had 2 injuries (ribs and ankle) so 2023 he was better. He has all the tools to develop into a good starter.

That’s who I like

 

[SoulfishHawk]

As far as QB's go, it's funny how nobody seems to mention that Sanders is 23. Just like Nix and Penix were when they got drafted. Yet, the only one talked about, age wise, was Penix. Who somehow was 31 when he was drafted

 

[SeaofGreen]

I agree with you, but I am taking the liberty to provide opinions from the other side:

1. geNOs have seen Geno's ceiling and ain't impressed.
2. geNOs know Geno wants more $, but with that low ceiling, the geNOs would rather not pay.
3. geNOs will argue that you can't prove other QB could not bring the Hawks to win more.
4. geNOs will accept winning less games, so long that they don't have to watch geNO.

You can rebut or reason on points 1-3, but you can't on 4.

Oddly enough the only point I have a problem with is 4. I won't accept the team starting someone who will win less games just so I don't have to look at Geno. 1 win/loss can easily be the difference between playoffs and season over, between home field advantage opposed to traveling in the post season or between playing wild card weekend or bye week.

 

[SeaofGreen]

Cam Ward if the team made some trades and moved up in the draft.

I see mock drafts where he goes as high as #1. Even ignoring the fact that JS is not the guy I would bet on to move up in the 1st I think it's highly unlikely we have the capital to get there or that that would be the smartest move considering all of our other needs.

 

[toffee]

Oddly enough the only point I have a problem with is 4. I won't accept the team starting someone who will win less games just so I don't have to look at Geno. 1 win/loss can easily be the difference between playoffs and season over, between home field advantage opposed to traveling in the post season or between playing wild card weekend or bye week.

The standard geNO response to your argument: you can't prove replacing geNO's will lead to winning less games.

 

[Ozzy]

And there are a few on here saying that a rookie will "automatically" be an upgrade as well.

Which I agree is far from an absolute too. I trust them to make the right call whichever way they go.

 

[Ozzy]

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personally I think Ewers is the guy over Shough. Ewers will only be 22 in a couple weeks. 2024 he had 2 injuries (ribs and ankle) so 2023 he was better. He has all the tools to develop into a good starter.

That’s who I like

Ewers seems like a decent candidate if you keep Geno. If you can't resign Geno then Shough could be the guy?

I like Ewers more than most too

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Ewers seems like a decent candidate if you keep Geno. If you can't resign Geno then Shough could be the guy?

I like Ewers more than most too

Good point.

That I would be all for. Shough is a plug and play now. I just don't see them moving on from Geno this year. I think that's why I like Ewers, he can sit for a year or two and develop. At one point he was special. Maybe he can find that again with the right situation.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The standard geNO response to your argument: you can't prove replacing geNO's will lead to winning less games.

Hey brother, what's with the strange, cringe worthy nicknames?

(runs for cover)

 

[Ozzy]

Good point.

That I would be all for. Shough is a plug and play now. I just don't see them moving on from Geno this year. I think that's why I like Ewers, he can sit for a year or two and develop. At one point he was special. Maybe he can find that again with the right situation.

I dont see them moving off of Geno either but its possible he won't sign for what they want to sign him for and he holds out or demands a trade or something weird happens. I think they figure it out this week but we shall see.

Completely agree on Ewers!

 

[Chapow]

Cam Ward if the team made some trades and moved up in the draft.

Tennessee, Cleveland, and the NY Giants have the top 3 picks. All 3 of them need QB's. There's absolutely no way Ward makes it past the 3rd pick, and I personally don't think he makes past Cleveland at #2.

We have the 18th pick. In 2021 it cost the 9ers 3 firsts and a 3rd to move up from #12 to #3 to take Trey Lance. Moving up from #18 into the top 3 would almost certainly cost more than that, and there's no guarantee that we get Ward unless we trade up to #1.

Is that something that you think the Seahawks should do? Do you really think Ward is worth not having another 1st round pick until 2028 (plus who knows how much else)?

For me personally, I'm not convinced Ward is the next Jayden Daniels type young super star QB, and if I'm not convinced of that, I don't make that trade. The cost is just way too high, imo.

 

[Seahawker]

In 2001 the Dolphins had a deal in place to acquire Matt Hasselbeck from the Packers. The Seahawks swoop in, make a better offer and four years later are in the Super Bowl.



In 2012 John Schneider was very high on Russell Wilson and wanted to draft him in the 2nd round. John had to initially win Pete over about RW being a good bet and he was taken #75 in the 3rd round.
It was later learned that the Eagles were set to take Wilson in the third if the Seahawks hadn't.
The Seahawks make their second Super Bowl appearance the following year.

 

[Double Tribble]

Win MORE with a rookie? Which rookie QB (that we have a chance to get) is going to get us to 11+ wins? Like him or not that's the bar Geno set with a new HC, piss poor rookie play caller, unreliable running game, below average line and a defense that was finding it's way. At this point I believe Geno is our best shot to get more wins than last year.

As noted above, rookie Russell Wilson would like a chat. If someone of similar skills isn't available this year, then move heaven and earth and do literally whatever it takes to make sure you get him next year.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Well, Wilson has hands down MUCH better than Geno ever was and/or ever could be.

 

[toffee]

Hey brother, what's with the strange, cringe worthy nicknames?

(runs for cover)

I felt like I need to send ya a bottle

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I would never say no to that. I'm only drinking on the weekends now. Trying to bail the belly again.

 

[Hollandhawk]

^This! I'm actually shocked at how risk averse so many here appear to be. We don't break through to the next level by refusing to take chances and continuing to do what we've always done, which hasn't worked.

When has that ever proved to be a formula for success in any endeavor, let alone competitive team sports? Embracing change separates the great from the merely good.

Yeah I agree with this. The chiefs should have kept starting Alex Smith? He was doing just fine right? Above mediocre play. So why replace him? Well they rolled the dice and the return was huge. Geno will not be the reason we win a Super Bowl.

 

[JayhawkMike]

The truth is that many of us that want Geno gone are willing ti have a subpar season while a Rookie QB learns the league believing that LONG TERM we will have a shot at going to the playoffs and succeeding there.

So the “a rookie will come in and equal Geno” is possible but unlikely but WE don’t care because hopefully the NEXT year they will.

BTWbwhat the heck good does it do to have decent regular seasons if you never have any chance for postseason success? Because that is where we will be again with GeNever.

 

[Chapow]

Yeah I agree with this. The chiefs should have kept starting Alex Smith? He was doing just fine right? Above mediocre play. So why replace him? Well they rolled the dice and the return was huge. Geno will not be the reason we win a Super Bowl.

The Chiefs already had Patrick Mahomes and had been developing him for over a year when they got rid of Alex Smith.

It's actually kind of funny that you brought that up because that's pretty much what most people labeled "pro Geno" have been saying they want. An actual plan in place to replace Geno with a better option as opposed to just kicking Geno to the curb and then trying to figure out where to go from there.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

The truth is that many of us that want Geno gone are willing ti have a subpar season while a Rookie QB learns the league believing that LONG TERM we will have a shot at going to the playoffs and succeeding there.

So the “a rookie will come in and equal Geno” is possible but unlikely but WE don’t care because hopefully the NEXT year they will.

BTWbwhat the heck good does it do to have decent regular seasons if you never have any chance for postseason success? Because that is where we will be again with GeNever.

Hope isn’t a business plan. Y’all know damn well if we take a QB, cut Geno and the QB goes out and plays like shit you will all sit there and whine and bitch and moan like you do now with Geno.

I know you’ll come back with we get a better draft pick but draft picks aren’t a sure thing. 3 in the top 4 last year (young, stroud, AR) and only one has looked decent. A class like last hasn’t been seen in 40 years so you can’t point to that one.

Building a team off hope is losers mentality. Something JS, Mike and Jody want no part of it. All you have to do is listen to any of their interviews.