DK to steelers

[jeremiah]

Jets got em

I know, that is a recipe for disaster. He literally is now guaranteed to be out of the league in 2 years max.

 

[cymatica]

Definitely wouldn’t have paid what Pitt paid him but, I still think this is a huge loss.

Hoping we get lucky with WRs in this draft.

Anyone that thinks JSN can do it by himself might be smoking that sticky icky icky.

I don't think it's a huge loss. He was elite at drawing coverage and was good at run blocking. He couldn't high point the ball, almost always caught with his body, couldn't box out DBs much smaller than him, rarely caught a contested catches, ran too many poor lazy routes several of which directly caused ints. Yeah he didn't let opposing players get in his head as much last season but it was a problem. Whenever he got a TD at home he would just stare at the crowd like he hated Seattle.

He definitely didn't deserve what Pittsburgh paid him, but out of all the teams I'm glad it was them.

 

[Shane Falco]

Fields.... cheap and still has an upside. LOVE THE WHEELS, without them you have a 1985 type of team in a wide open 2025 game.

ah, the day has come when $20M /yr is "cheap". I don't think there is a position in the NFL where the top players at every positions is not now over $20M outside of punter and kicker. And the premium positions, forget about it.

 

[RiverDog]

I never have been a Metcalf fan, so I'm delighted with the trade. No one was going to give us a #1 for him, so this is the best we could do. Now let's use the draft capital and cap savings to concentrate on filling holes on the IOL and LB/edge.

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, Metcalf!

 

[cymatica]

Yall are completely reading my message wrong. I am saying it was common sense all along that he was never going to be an elite receiver. His hands were always ass. His mental was always ass. We should have traded him before the entire league came to their common senses. Now we didn’t get shit for him.

2nd is a good pick. He was never worth a 1st for the reasons you listed

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I never have been a Metcalf fan, so I'm delighted with the trade. No one was going to give us a #1 for him, so this is the best we could do. Now let's use the draft capital and cap savings to concentrate on filling holes on the IOL and LB/edge.

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, Metcalf!

No way

Just messing. You got your wish with DK. And I certainly got my wish with Geno.
And for the record, I expected the parting shots. But I don't want any part of 30 mil for a receiver. Unless it's the best of the best (Jefferson, Chase etc.)

 

[Scout]

I think people are underestimating the impact DK had helping opening up the offense. Also ,I think people are not realizing that complimentary football applies to how other players are able to function. JSN had the luxury of Lockett and Metcalf to help him opening things up to become the player that he is at this point.

Kubiak's offensive system does favor more 12 personnel but that means that a high end TE is needed along with a #2 WR. The slot WR position in this offense can function with a shifty smaller WR or a big bodied possession WR as motion is important for mismatches.

Fant and Barner are a decent 1-2 combo but a draft prospect like Warren really would transform the offense in a big way.

 

[Rat]

Even as a huge DK fan, I believe not giving him the kind of money he's getting on that new extension is defensible, but I was really excited to watch him keep growing in this offense and I won't be surprised when he's consistently in the All-Pro conversation with Pittsburgh.

I don't have a great opinion of Steelers fans, but I hope they appreciate his drive and passion, and don't constantly write a good guy off as a diva, despite exhibiting no actual diva characteristics. We were lucky to have him. He bought into the Seahawks culture immediately, he was a model teammate, and generally left it all out on the field. The expectations for him became ridiculous. He couldn't be human and make any mistakes without it being immediately attributed to malice for some reason.

 

[RiverDog]

Our offense

I think people are underestimating the impact DK had helping opening up the offense. Also ,I think people are not realizing that complimentary football applies to how other players are able to function. JSN had the luxury of Lockett and Metcalf to help him opening things up to become the player that he is at this point.

Kubiak's offensive system does favor more 12 personnel but that means that a high end TE is needed along with a #2 WR. The slot WR position in this offense can function with a shifty smaller WR or a big bodied possession WR as motion is important for mismatches.

Fant and Barner are a decent 1-2 combo but a draft prospect like Warren really would transform the offense in a big way.

Opened up our offense? We were middle of the road offensively. Plus, whatever benefit Metcalf brought to the table has to be weighed against his deficits, like his sloppy route running and his ball security.

Metcalf isn't garbage. He's a solid NFL receiver. But he's not a top 10 receiver worth what the Steelers are paying him.

 

[Ostatehawk]

From the Steelers forum

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Yeah - I checked out the Stealers forum - Many of them seem to think that DK is "Elite", ala Chase, Lamb, Brown, St. Brown, Jefferson etc. A few dared to say that isn't who DK is and were roundly called out for that take as haters. I love DK - he was an amazing specimen - and an excellent receiver - but he was never "Elite". At least with regard to what I see as "Elite". 'Elite" guys put the team on their back and carry them. DK was never that guy.

 

[bileever]

Now let's take that $30 million a year we saved from trading DK and go buy us a couple of beefy interior offensive linemen!!!

As my dad said to my mom when he bought the 69 Mustang, "What were we saving for, if not this?"

 

[CallMeADawg]

Now let's take that $30 million a year we saved from trading DK and go buy us a couple of beefy interior offensive linemen!!!

We also have 10 picks.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Now let's take that $30 million a year we saved from trading DK and go buy us a couple of beefy interior offensive linemen!!!

As my dad said to my mom when he bought the 69 Mustang, "What were we saving for, if not this?"

Nice. My pops had a 69 mustang too. That thing was sweet.

 

[Ostatehawk]

DK did not have a no trade clause, he pissed off John, so to the Steelers he goes, not warm weather, no QB, and we get a 2nd, he and Pickens can throw tantrums together now, if they sign Rodgers he will have a QB that screams at them as well. Fun times, thanks DK for the moments but you picked a bad time to screw the pooch.

The Stealers fans seem to think that DK will help calm Pickens down. Uhhhhhh - dude.

 

[Ostatehawk]

Now let's take that $30 million a year we saved from trading DK and go buy us a couple of beefy interior offensive linemen!!!

As my dad said to my mom when he bought the 69 Mustang, "What were we saving for, if not this?"

I'm A diehard Chevy guy - but I fully support your Dad's take on this topic! There is no replacement for displacement.

 

[HawkFreak]

I think people are underestimating the impact DK had helping opening up the offense. Also ,I think people are not realizing that complimentary football applies to how other players are able to function. JSN had the luxury of Lockett and Metcalf to help him opening things up to become the player that he is at this point.

Kubiak's offensive system does favor more 12 personnel but that means that a high end TE is needed along with a #2 WR. The slot WR position in this offense can function with a shifty smaller WR or a big bodied possession WR as motion is important for mismatches.

Fant and Barner are a decent 1-2 combo but a draft prospect like Warren really would transform the offense in a big way.

It looks like the Broncos got him - but I had wondered about Evan Engram in this new offense. Although his price may have been too much.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The Stealers fans seem to think that DK will help calm Pickens down. Uhhhhhh - dude.

PLEASE sign Rodgers. The drama would be so good.

 

[Ostatehawk]

PLEASE sign Rodgers. The drama would be so good.

Seriously - that would be a dream come true for one of those NFL reality shows.

How do you think Pickens will react if DK gets more targets than he does? Then cut to Erin screaming at both of them for running shitty routes.

Oh man - that would be must see tv.

 

[hox]

I don't have a great opinion of Steelers fans, but I hope they appreciate his drive and passion, and don't constantly write a good guy off as a diva, despite exhibiting no actual diva characteristics. We were lucky to have him. He bought into the Seahawks culture immediately, he was a model teammate, and generally left it all out on the field. The expectations for him became ridiculous. He couldn't be human and make any mistakes without it being immediately attributed to malice for some reason.

Nah he was immature, and not the "model" you speak of. In that Pittsburg game, where all we needed was a score to win the game, he stupidly tried to run for extra yards, instead of going out of bounds. Clock expired and we lost the game. Wasn't the first nor last time, his "extra effort" cost us a game.

When Shannon Sharpe called him out on it, he fought with Sharpe calling him washed up. A Hall of Famer. DK is not HOF caliber. His career to date is nothing compared to Sharpe.

Dude showed he couldn't take constructive criticism. An attitude just like his mentor Me3, "I'm unlimited, I don't need coaching from Pete"

Right.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

I think people are underestimating the impact DK had helping opening up the offense. Also ,I think people are not realizing that complimentary football applies to how other players are able to function. JSN had the luxury of Lockett and Metcalf to help him opening things up to become the player that he is at this point.

Kubiak's offensive system does favor more 12 personnel but that means that a high end TE is needed along with a #2 WR. The slot WR position in this offense can function with a shifty smaller WR or a big bodied possession WR as motion is important for mismatches.

Fant and Barner are a decent 1-2 combo but a draft prospect like Warren really would transform the offense in a big way.

I said previously because of DK’s presence, JSN, was able to secure a lot of targets and looks because DK commanded one up top and underneath zones around him. This largely gave JSN open windows to operate under. But, people were also saying JSN, had good production without DK playing. But that may be just a game or two against inconsistent defenses. But now we get to see what it will be like for all 17 regular season games and whatever it may be in playoffs. I’m not saying JSN is incapable of operating without DK but DK sure as hell made JSN a lot more free roam and operate his routes without defenses keying in on just JSN alone. It will be an adjustment for JSN. We shall see.

I think Seattle has to look hard at drafting Tyler Warren if he is available. I think Warren will be a very good Tight End for a long time.