Dissapointed. Needed This Game. Going From Here

[Smelly McUgly]

What I'm saying is that if they win two of three, it ultimately does not matter which two of three they win, whether or not you have to be nervous during the Rams game.

 

[Polaris]

What I'm saying is that if they win two of three, it ultimately does not matter which two of three they win, whether or not you have to be nervous during the Rams game.

Of all the remaining three teams, we match up against the Rams the first, and the Rams would like nothing better than to spoil things for us. Do you really want to hang the difference between the #1 and #5/6 seed on the last game of the season if we can possibly help it?

 

[sutz]

PS. Don't patronize to me about seeding. Seattle will look to be in the number one seed up until the moment the Niners tie with us. Then we're the wildcard. Immediately. Need to make sure that does NOT happen and that means we MUST win the next two.

Actually, we MUST win 2 of the next 3. Which two is irrelevant.

You don't want it to come down to the last game of the seaon. At least I hope you don't.

:229031_shrug: Whatever. Obviously, YOU don't want it to come to that. Actually I'd prefer it didn't but I have no control over that. Frankly, if I have "must win" games on the schedule, I prefer them be played at the CLink anyway. The Giants game, we're still playing on house money.

The real pressure is still on the Niners to catch us. Some facts:

1. The Seahawks are 5-2 on the road this year.
2. The Seahawks are 3-1 at 10am this year.
3. The Seahawks have not lost to a team with a losing record this year, nor to a non-playoff team, in any venue.
4. The Seahawks have a 2 game lead with 3 to play.

Your presentation of the "realistic" scenario is noted. I do not share your concern, yet. Recent history, as in how we've done this season, points to your "realistic" scenario being the absolute worst case scenario imaginable. IMHO the chance that that will actually happen is very unlikely.

Thanks for playing. :zzzzz:

 

[Zorn76]

"Paranoia will destroy ya" - The Kinks

 

[TwistedHusky]

That was a winnable game.

It was lost due to some of our players letting the other team lure them into penalties and bad play because they let their emotions take control of them (A double edged sword since we know those same players use emotion-filled play style to turn the team into a buzzsaw at home when needed).

It was also lost because of complete inability of our OC to adjust his playcalling to the realities of what was working on the field.

And it was lost because we didn't have Browner and Thurmond, since for whatever reason - whatever mistake either one made likely led to this loss.

Any one of those, they might have been able to overcome but all combined? Too much.

Hopefully we can make up for this by playing well in NY, but I cannot shake the feeling this game had of being a Detroit or a Miami. Games that we lost last year that either one ended up making a HUGE difference for us.

Hopefully I am wrong, but one thing is clear. They blew it. The 49ers were doubting themselves before the game, not even sure they could win. Now the Seahawks left the gate open, listen to the 49ers now. They now believe they can win and that was half of the battle.

 

[Anthony!]

That was a winnable game.

It was lost due to some of our players letting the other team lure them into penalties and bad play because they let their emotions take control of them (A double edged sword since we know those same players use emotion-filled play style to turn the team into a buzzsaw at home when needed).

It was also lost because of complete inability of our OC to adjust his playcalling to the realities of what was working on the field.

And it was lost because we didn't have Browner and Thurmond, since for whatever reason - whatever mistake either one made likely led to this loss.

Any one of those, they might have been able to overcome but all combined? Too much.

Hopefully we can make up for this by playing well in NY, but I cannot shake the feeling this game had of being a Detroit or a Miami. Games that we lost last year that either one ended up making a HUGE difference for us.

Hopefully I am wrong, but one thing is clear. They blew it. The 49ers were doubting themselves before the game, not even sure they could win. Now the Seahawks left the gate open, listen to the 49ers now. They now believe they can win and that was half of the battle.

Good points all, I do not agree on Browner or Thurmond, Maxwell did fine, in fact he played better than Sherman given Shermans horrible stupid penalties led to 10 points.

I do agree the play calling was bad, this to me was another game were while the offense may have not done a lot they got us the lead and the defense could not hold it. I do think we will regroup and run the table.

 

[MizzouHawkGal]

Threads like this piss me off. Does anyone think we're going 0-3? Or lose 2 home games back to back? My advice? Is just take a deep breath, step back and chill out preferably with your favorite cold one.

 

[Nearpost]

I feel sorry for what is about to happen to The Giants.

 

[themunn]

It's called "margin of error". If something bad can happen, you have to assume it probably will. The best way to stop that is to win the next two games and remove any doubt.

Before the season it was possible we lost all 16 games this year.

But you'd be committed if you ever assumed we actually would.

 

[HawKnPeppa]

I feel sorry for what is about to happen to The Giants.

Me too.

 

[AgentDib]

You aren't being realistic. You're assuming worst-case scenario. Big difference. Quit being a chicken little.

When you deal with playoff scenarios, assuming the worst case scenario IS being realistic.

Realism by definition is expecting the mean or median outcome; what you are describing is pessimism. You probably avoided the term because it has a negative connotation, but every realistic sports fan out there is only momentarily rational while they are wavering from optimism to pessimism to optimism.

The annoying thing about optimism or pessimism is not when fans catch either, but when they insist on coughing all over realism with it to try to spread their germs. How the Seahawks perform on the field has nothing to do with whether fans were in the appropriate "mindset" or not, and the importance the players put on a game is not dictated by the importance that fans put on that game.

 

[Tech Worlds]

You aren't being realistic. You're assuming worst-case scenario. Big difference. Quit being a chicken little.

When you deal with playoff scenarios, assuming the worst case scenario IS being realistic.

Realism by definition is expecting the mean or median outcome; what you are describing is pessimism. You probably avoided the term because it has a negative connotation, but every realistic sports fan out there is only momentarily rational while they are wavering from optimism to pessimism to optimism.

The annoying thing about optimism or pessimism is not when fans catch either, but when they insist on coughing all over realism with it to try to spread their germs. How the Seahawks perform on the field has nothing to do with whether fans were in the appropriate "mindset" or not, and the importance the players put on a game is not dictated by the importance that fans put on that game.

Let him cry. He will get it out of his system that way.

 

[Reaneypark]

Simply put, if we can't win two out of the next three games against non-playoff teams, (I know AZ isn't out yet) then we don't deserve to even think about the Super Bowl. I like that we are now in playoff mode and won't be coasting to the finish line.

 

[volsunghawk]

No, I am being realistic. I am not whining and saying "woe is me; all is lost" and frankly I dislike the notion that some are trying to present here that I am.

Perhaps I should have said, "Going ON from here". I am not giving up. Far from.

However, if you don't understand how important this game was and how much Seattle really did need to win it.

When you have a chance to step on your rival's throat and SEIZE the division and a first round bye YOU TAKE IT. As it is, we've given San Fran far too great a reprieve in the division and gave up far, far too much of our cushion.

Just the way it is. Now we deal with it....but be honest about it when dealing with it.

PS. Don't patronize to me about seeding. Seattle will look to be in the number one seed up until the moment the Niners tie with us. Then we're the wildcard. Immediately. Need to make sure that does NOT happen and that means we MUST win the next two.

You aren't being realistic. You're assuming worst-case scenario. Big difference. Quit being a chicken little.

Of for the love of mike.... :roll:

When you deal with playoff scenarios, assuming the worst case scenario IS being realistic. There is no "chicken little" about it. I won't feel confortable until we win two more (if we win two more).

That's where you demonstrate that you ARE being a chicken little.

Let me get this straight. We're automatically assuming that the 49ers are going to win out, but yet we refuse to assume that Seattle will win 2 out of the @NYG, Arizona, St. Louis combination?

Tampa is a better team than the Giants right now, even if they're a game behind them in the standings. I see no logic in assuming a win for SF but not doing the same for Seattle in that comparison.

St. Louis versus Atlanta... I'll give you that one.

But Arizona. The 49ers have to go on the road, and while Arizona may not be a daunting place to play, the 49ers will still have to deal with being on the road. We get the Cardinals at home. That's advantage Seattle.

 

[Polaris]

That's where you demonstrate that you ARE being a chicken little.

Wrong. I am being a hard eyed realist. I don't expect Seattle to lose out, but I do recognize the consequences of doing so. Unlike some, I do recognize the HUGE amount of cushion that Seattle just blew with that loss.

Let me get this straight. We're automatically assuming that the 49ers are going to win out, but yet we refuse to assume that Seattle will win 2 out of the @NYG, Arizona, St. Louis combination?

Yes I do think the Niners win out. I believe that is justified by the schedule they have left and the fact the Niners this season have been VERY good at beating non-winning opponents they should beat. Both Tampa Bay and Atlanta definately qualify. I think Tampa Bay will give the Niners a game, but the ultimate outcome is not in doubt. Arizona is at best a 0.500 team, and I believe we can pencil them in at 8-8 (withing a game or so) right now, and the Niners feast on such foes. Arizona has feasted on the weakest part of it's schedule and is weaker than it's record indicates.

Tampa is a better team than the Giants right now, even if they're a game behind them in the standings. I see no logic in assuming a win for SF but not doing the same for Seattle in that comparison.

I never assume a win for the team I am rooting for. More to the point Seattle has had historically a very difficult time playing 10am games. Even this year. Sure we've won, but some of Seattle's worst football was played on 10am games....and the NYGiants still have Eli Manning and have a lot better personelle and coaching than their record indicates. It's a game I hate to have to win.

St. Louis versus Atlanta... I'll give you that one.

Yeah, I think that one is clear.

But Arizona. The 49ers have to go on the road, and while Arizona may not be a daunting place to play, the 49ers will still have to deal with being on the road. We get the Cardinals at home. That's advantage Seattle.

The Niners have had and will have no troubles with Arizona. Book it. OTOH, 'Zona has often been a thorn in our side, and you know the Cards (and Rams) would just love to deny a Division title to us if they can.

The fact this is even mathematically possible is entirely due to the last loss.

I agree that we as fans and the team have to move on, but don't pretend this wasn't a bad loss or that it was a meaningless loss. It was not.

 

[MidwestHawker]

The Niners have had and will have no troubles with Arizona. Book it. OTOH, 'Zona has often been a thorn in our side, and you know the Cards (and Rams) would just love to deny a Division title to us if they can.

Niners on the road at Arizona are a stone cold lock that we can already book. Seahawks at home against Arizona is far more likely to be a nailbiter.

Ladies and gentlemen...realism.

 

[Largent80]

To me this game was one we could afford to lose, however, I am thinking the Vagiant game will be a must win.

This loss may be a harbinger of good rather than bad as we haven't had one for over a month and a half. It is a realization that you need to keep playing hard for 4 quarters.

 

[MidwestHawker]

To me this game was one we could afford to lose, however, I am thinking the Vagiant game will be a must win.

This loss may be a harbinger of good rather than bad as we haven't had one for over a month and a half. It is a realization that you need to keep playing hard for 4 quarters.

I mean I think the Hawks played hard for 4 quarters, and that wasn't really a problem.

I do agree that a loss to the Giants would be very bad, and I won't merely shrug if that happens, but I don't expect that to happen.

 

[volsunghawk]

The Niners have had and will have no troubles with Arizona. Book it. OTOH, 'Zona has often been a thorn in our side, and you know the Cards (and Rams) would just love to deny a Division title to us if they can.

Niners on the road at Arizona are a stone cold lock that we can already book. Seahawks at home against Arizona is far more likely to be a nailbiter.

Ladies and gentlemen...realism.

:mrgreen:

Yes, I myself am wondering exactly how Arizona is a thorn in our side in Seattle. Is it the 3-8 record the Cardinals have in Seattle since the division realignment? Is it the 58-0 game last year?

The Cardinals have more wins against the 49ers in Arizona than they have wins against us in Seattle. But maybe it's because the Cards want to deny a division title to us. They are probably rooting for the 49ers, since the 49ers won the division the past two years. Arizona fears change, you know.

 

[Seeker]

seahawk fans like being depressed because it's familiar territory. Up two games with borderline gimmies on the schedule. chill.