Crap. This Sherman thing is EXPLODING everywhere....

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A #25 Richard Sherman jersey has long been the jersey I wanted to buy next.

Last night just moved the timeline up a bit. Now, it's a must-have.

If the roles were reversed, and we had a whiny punk receiver who ran his mouth, went out of his way to start a fight with another team's cornerback, talked smack all game, only to shove the cornerback in the face after he made a play on him, we'd want the receiver run out of Seattle on the first train south. The only reason this is news is because shockingly, for the first time in league history, a loud-mouthed, brash, in-your-face, top-tier player is a Seattle Seahawk. We're supposed to roll over, expose our soft underbellies, and crawl back into the Sasquatch-infested woods of the Pacific Northwest and leave the football to the real men. Sorry, folks, that ain't happening anymore.
 

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I get what the OP is saying. I cringed too. There's a difference between being celebrated for the team's talent and needing the approval of others. It would just add to the victory if fans and media types finally gave the team some love BUT...

That is never going to happen regardless of what Sherm says. Fact is we are a small market team and, with very few exceptions, media tend to build up the big market teams. Why? For ratings and ad revenue. There's no money to be made in building up Seattle. And a lot (not all) other market fans just follow the media lead because they have no dog in the hunt -- their team is out so they're more casual with their opions.

So you can wring your hands over what others think about Sherm but it wouldn't change the narrative. Seattle would never be a fan favorite in this game. If they win and start a dynasty that could change but for now, we'll always be the outcast.

P.S. Sherm has a degree Communications. He knows what he's doing. It's about building his own persona so that he can profit from it either thru a contract or other ways. Plus, it he actually likes the role.
 

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I kinda wish they didn't do on field interviews. Give the players some time to enjoy the moment, then reflect and compose themselves. There is nothing positive to be gained from them anyway. No-one ever, EVER, says anything remotely interesting, unless it is something like what Sherman said yesterday which overshadows a lot of the performance of the rest of the team. I have no problem with Sherman speaking his mind; I like the fact that he is different from the norm (kind of like why I enjoy playing against Harbaugh and think that a lot of the rivalry will diminish when he eventually leaves SF), and that he backs up the talk with his play, but he sometimes sounds pretty petty and childish.

On the other hand, and I'm not sure if it's a conscious decision on Sherman's part, but he is undoubtedly making himself a lot wealthier with the persona he has created. He has made sure that everybody who follows the NFL knows exactly who he is, including companies looking for athlete-personalities to sell their products, and that is certainly not just down to him being the phenomenal talent that he is. There is no question in my mind that if he wants it, he will have a very successful post-football career as a pundit.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":3i3rco9g said:
A #25 Richard Sherman jersey has long been the jersey I wanted to buy next.

Last night just moved the timeline up a bit. Now, it's a must-have.

If the roles were reversed, and we had a whiny punk receiver who ran his mouth, went out of his way to start a fight with another team's cornerback, talked smack all game, only to shove the cornerback in the face after he made a play on him, we'd want the receiver run out of Seattle on the first train south. The only reason this is news is because shockingly, for the first time in league history, a loud-mouthed, brash, in-your-face, top-tier player is a Seattle Seahawk. We're supposed to roll over, expose our soft underbellies, and crawl back into the Sasquatch-infested woods of the Pacific Northwest and leave the football to the real men. Sorry, folks, that ain't happening anymore.
Agreed and agreed a Sherman jersey is now a must have for me. At 1st it was going to be an ET III but now its going to wait Sherms next.
 

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AgentDib":r8a2j8pe said:
Popeyejones":r8a2j8pe said:
Honestly, he reminds me of when I used to really root for Terrell Owens. Like what happened with Owens, unless Sherman becomes a different person I think Hawks fans will end up turning on him eventually (as has already started to happen a bit).
It is bonkers to interpret anything in this thread as Hawks fan turning on Sherman. The few people who dislike his comments do so specifically because they like Sherman and don't want to see him taking flak from random twitter denizens. Consider that wearing down 49ers and their fans is one of his primary motivations. Your TO analogy is ridiculous; where TO blamed his teammates, Sherman gives them the credit. I think you are looking for a comparison that doesn't exist because it gives you an outlet for your frustrations.

Richard Sherman":r8a2j8pe said:
When I say I’m the best cornerback in football, it’s with a caveat: There isn’t a great defensive backfield in the NFL that doesn’t have a great front seven. Everything begins with pressure up front, and that’s what we get from our pass rushers every Sunday.
I'm glad someone else sees thru this poster's gobbly gunk!
 

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He may open his mouth a bit too wide, but in a world so full of prepared speeches, calculated responses and automatic cliches, I like it.
 

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Seahawk Sailor":1vecg0rl said:
A #25 Richard Sherman jersey has long been the jersey I wanted to buy next.

Last night just moved the timeline up a bit. Now, it's a must-have.

If the roles were reversed, and we had a whiny punk receiver who ran his mouth, went out of his way to start a fight with another team's cornerback, talked smack all game, only to shove the cornerback in the face after he made a play on him, we'd want the receiver run out of Seattle on the first train south. The only reason this is news is because shockingly, for the first time in league history, a loud-mouthed, brash, in-your-face, top-tier player is a Seattle Seahawk. We're supposed to roll over, expose our soft underbellies, and crawl back into the Sasquatch-infested woods of the Pacific Northwest and leave the football to the real men. Sorry, folks, that ain't happening anymore.
Money post Sailor! :th2thumbs: I'm still looking for a wolf grey limited Sherman jersey, no luck yet. :(
 

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There's not a single one of you who'd be supporting Sherman were he a 49er.
 

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MontanaHawk05":38a7d8b3 said:
There's not a single one of you who'd be supporting Sherman were he a 49er.
Sherman is the guy that you hate having to face in a game but would love to have on your team.

I feel that way about Darnell Dockett.

If the teams were switched and it was Kaepernick celebrating and being brash after winning so his team went to the Superb Owl, I would hate-respect the hell out of him... More on the side of hating though.
 

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Popeyejones":jicikv5h said:
Where it's similar, and why I made the comparison, is that with both of them it's ALWAYS something, and that something is ALWAYS someone else's fault.
With Sherman that is simply not the case, which is why your need to force an unflattering comparison comes across like trolling. Sherman has talked openly about losing focus last season after not being targeted for extended periods of time, and how maintaining his focus has been a major goal for him this season. Part of his excitement yesterday was just that; they only threw at him twice and the second time he made the game winning play.

The only real comparisons you can be make between TO and Sherman is that they are egotistical, brash, confident, and thrive on playing with a chip on their shoulders. Do you know how many other athletes you can lump into that group? Michael Jordan for one, who also talked an enormous amount of trash. Would it also be armchair analyzing you to ask why your first inclination was to lump Sherman in with TO rather than MJ?
 

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The media attention will be on that great play Sherm made to win the game. Sherm is one of the great Seahawks in history. Of course he's jacked. You can't go out there and do that without being jacked.
 

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Richard Sherman is more Muhammad Ali than anyone else he's being compared to, IMO.
 

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MontanaHawk05":tcb7p0vg said:
There's not a single one of you who'd be supporting Sherman were he a 49er.

True. Because most NFL fans listen to the NFL storylines and don't know anything about the background. Our job as fans is to know better.

Furthermore, this is one of the all time dumbest objections in sports. You mean we care about the people on our team more than people on another team? Newsflash! Throw this comment in the trash bin and leave it there.
 

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Sarlacc83":2g15tniw said:
MontanaHawk05":2g15tniw said:
There's not a single one of you who'd be supporting Sherman were he a 49er.

True. Because most NFL fans listen to the NFL storylines and don't know anything about the background. Our job as fans is to know better.

Furthermore, this is one of the all time dumbest objections in sports. You mean we care about the people on our team more than people on another team? Newsflash! Throw this comment in the trash bin and leave it there.

If we're having an objective conversation about...oh, never mind. It's Super Bowl week.
 

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It begs the question what was the face of the Seahawks before this, in terms of what the east coast media thinks. We have always been treated like a no-name team from the middle of nowhere. If this little bit of controversy is providing a face for what they considered faceless before, then good!

Sherm isn't exactly the first brash, trash talking player the NFL has ever seen, it's part of the game
 

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Remember that time Jeremy Stevens disagreed with a reporter about the stealers being a lock to win the superbowl and Joey Porter went off on him and the media was whooping it up and cheering joey on? where is all that when its a seahawk with the guts to speak up.
 

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MontanaHawk05":231etuj1 said:
There's not a single one of you who'd be supporting Sherman were he a 49er.

Because fans of other teams never support outspoken players on other teams? Lots of Panthers fans are loving Sherman and they are from a different team.

I blame it mostly on the immediacy of the media. They want to stick a mic in someone's face right in a big moment. Also, they want quotes. You have personalities that feed right into that.
 

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rightbench":2x4i1c6u said:
NorCalHawk12":2x4i1c6u said:
"I'd never let a mediocre receiver catch the game winner on me"

Sounds right. Since it was your only play of the game. You know...other than the other 50 or 60 you were in on on the field....


Wait wait wait wait wait.... you are talking about the best corner in football.... the one the 9ers spent the entire game NOT THROWING AT on purpose. And then you try and use that to say Sherman why didn't you do more?

You want him to sneak over to the other side of the field? you want him to play receiver so he can get a few more plays in ?

Crabtree said the same thing in his post game interviews. He made one play. AND IT WON THE GAME. And he didn't need to make more because he's proven that he owns his side of the field. Cmon Man.
Sarcasm Brother...embrace it.
Didn't you read the whole post. Crabs was the one who said Sherm only made one play. I said he made 50 or 60 others.
 
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