Cordarrelle Patterson Available?

[massari]

He'd be getting traded for a mid-to-late round pick beause he doesn't have much (if any) potential as a WR, and ST insurance isn't really a thing.

He lost his starting job last year because he has bad hands and can't run routes. So far this year he's even lost spot WR duty for the same reason.

Regardless though, even if he is available to be traded for, he'd be more valuable to someone who actually needs the thing he can do (ST returner). Paying the market rate in trade for something they don't need wouldn't make much sense.

Here's his scouting report when he was drafted: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cor ... id=2540145

STRENGTHS Easily separates on vertical routes when given a free release. Very few wasted steps on cuts. Very smooth in his breaks. Finds soft areas in zone coverage between corners and safeties. Looks to turn upfield immediately after the catch. Very good with slants, quick head fake out allows for inside release, strong step forward, body catches to prevent pass breakup while shielding corner. Flashes swiping inside arm bar away on back shoulder throws to allow for free turn. Frequently hauls in the difficult catches, especially when the defensive back is draped on him. Not afraid to hand fight all the way along the sideline on vertical routes to create a sliver of separation. Understands hot read recognition when the corner blitzes. Builds speed quickly after the catch, almost gliding when in stride. Good vision with the ball in his hands, cuts upfield when he sees a lane. Used occasionally at running back, has the speed and wiggle to beat defenders to the edge while utilizing hesitations moves. Very nimble on his feet, especially for size. Makes plays out of nothing when carrying the ball. Numerous natural qualities to his game.

WEAKNESSES Consistently a body catcher, even when it is not necessary. Was not frequently asked to go up and get the football at its highest point. Large number of his snaps start while off the line of scrimmage, allows for a better release. Doesn't use his hands enough against a jam, tries to dip or side step rather than slap or push. Tends to throttle down in his breaks.Burst after the catch or return is only adequate but does accelerate quickly. Tries to do too much when the ball is in his hands at times. Dropped a few very catchable balls, including easy bucket throw over shoulder. Inconsistent blocking effort.

NFL COMPARISON Demaryius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE He may be considered raw with his ability to handle physical coverage, but Patterson is one of the more naturally talented pass catchers to come along in the last few years. He only has one year of tape against FBS level of competition, but from the first game Patterson showed his versatility by making plays from a variety of alignments. If the Vol can start using his hands to release off the line and tighten up some technique issues, he should be one of this class' top playmakers. He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board.


Worst case scenario the Seahawks give up a mid-late draft pick, pay 2M for 1 season towards a guy who can split return duties with Lockett, run trick plays in the offense and put up receiving stats similar to Kearse.

He's still only 24 and only played 1 year in college. Maybe a change in environment will do him good. Maybe it won't. But I hope they try.

 

[rideaducati]

He'd be getting traded for a mid-to-late round pick beause he doesn't have much (if any) potential as a WR, and ST insurance isn't really a thing.

He lost his starting job last year because he has bad hands and can't run routes. So far this year he's even lost spot WR duty for the same reason.

Regardless though, even if he is available to be traded for, he'd be more valuable to someone who actually needs the thing he can do (ST returner). Paying the market rate in trade for something they don't need wouldn't make much sense.

Here's his scouting report when he was drafted: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cor ... id=2540145

STRENGTHS Easily separates on vertical routes when given a free release. Very few wasted steps on cuts. Very smooth in his breaks. Finds soft areas in zone coverage between corners and safeties. Looks to turn upfield immediately after the catch. Very good with slants, quick head fake out allows for inside release, strong step forward, body catches to prevent pass breakup while shielding corner. Flashes swiping inside arm bar away on back shoulder throws to allow for free turn. Frequently hauls in the difficult catches, especially when the defensive back is draped on him. Not afraid to hand fight all the way along the sideline on vertical routes to create a sliver of separation. Understands hot read recognition when the corner blitzes. Builds speed quickly after the catch, almost gliding when in stride. Good vision with the ball in his hands, cuts upfield when he sees a lane. Used occasionally at running back, has the speed and wiggle to beat defenders to the edge while utilizing hesitations moves. Very nimble on his feet, especially for size. Makes plays out of nothing when carrying the ball. Numerous natural qualities to his game.

WEAKNESSES Consistently a body catcher, even when it is not necessary. Was not frequently asked to go up and get the football at its highest point. Large number of his snaps start while off the line of scrimmage, allows for a better release. Doesn't use his hands enough against a jam, tries to dip or side step rather than slap or push. Tends to throttle down in his breaks.Burst after the catch or return is only adequate but does accelerate quickly. Tries to do too much when the ball is in his hands at times. Dropped a few very catchable balls, including easy bucket throw over shoulder. Inconsistent blocking effort.

NFL COMPARISON Demaryius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE He may be considered raw with his ability to handle physical coverage, but Patterson is one of the more naturally talented pass catchers to come along in the last few years. He only has one year of tape against FBS level of competition, but from the first game Patterson showed his versatility by making plays from a variety of alignments. If the Vol can start using his hands to release off the line and tighten up some technique issues, he should be one of this class' top playmakers. He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board.


Worst case scenario the Seahawks give up a mid-late draft pick, pay 2M for 1 season towards a guy who can split return duties with Lockett, run trick plays in the offense and put up receiving stats similar to Kearse.

He's still only 24 and only played 1 year in college. Maybe a change in environment will do him good. Maybe it won't. But I hope they try.

I would love the Seahawks to trade Kearse for this guy straight up. Russell would then be forced to use the better receivers on the team.

 

[massari]

lol Just looking at a highlight of him and he burned Cary Williams for a TD @ 3:50 of the vid.

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[ringless]

He'd be getting traded for a mid-to-late round pick beause he doesn't have much (if any) potential as a WR, and ST insurance isn't really a thing.

He lost his starting job last year because he has bad hands and can't run routes. So far this year he's even lost spot WR duty for the same reason.

Regardless though, even if he is available to be traded for, he'd be more valuable to someone who actually needs the thing he can do (ST returner). Paying the market rate in trade for something they don't need wouldn't make much sense.

Here's his scouting report when he was drafted: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cor ... id=2540145

STRENGTHS Easily separates on vertical routes when given a free release. Very few wasted steps on cuts. Very smooth in his breaks. Finds soft areas in zone coverage between corners and safeties. Looks to turn upfield immediately after the catch. Very good with slants, quick head fake out allows for inside release, strong step forward, body catches to prevent pass breakup while shielding corner. Flashes swiping inside arm bar away on back shoulder throws to allow for free turn. Frequently hauls in the difficult catches, especially when the defensive back is draped on him. Not afraid to hand fight all the way along the sideline on vertical routes to create a sliver of separation. Understands hot read recognition when the corner blitzes. Builds speed quickly after the catch, almost gliding when in stride. Good vision with the ball in his hands, cuts upfield when he sees a lane. Used occasionally at running back, has the speed and wiggle to beat defenders to the edge while utilizing hesitations moves. Very nimble on his feet, especially for size. Makes plays out of nothing when carrying the ball. Numerous natural qualities to his game.

WEAKNESSES Consistently a body catcher, even when it is not necessary. Was not frequently asked to go up and get the football at its highest point. Large number of his snaps start while off the line of scrimmage, allows for a better release. Doesn't use his hands enough against a jam, tries to dip or side step rather than slap or push. Tends to throttle down in his breaks.Burst after the catch or return is only adequate but does accelerate quickly. Tries to do too much when the ball is in his hands at times. Dropped a few very catchable balls, including easy bucket throw over shoulder. Inconsistent blocking effort.

NFL COMPARISON Demaryius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE He may be considered raw with his ability to handle physical coverage, but Patterson is one of the more naturally talented pass catchers to come along in the last few years. He only has one year of tape against FBS level of competition, but from the first game Patterson showed his versatility by making plays from a variety of alignments. If the Vol can start using his hands to release off the line and tighten up some technique issues, he should be one of this class' top playmakers. He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board.


Worst case scenario the Seahawks give up a mid-late draft pick, pay 2M for 1 season towards a guy who can split return duties with Lockett, run trick plays in the offense and put up receiving stats similar to Kearse.

He's still only 24 and only played 1 year in college. Maybe a change in environment will do him good. Maybe it won't. But I hope they try.

Who's contract are you going to negotiate to fit him in under the cap? How will he help the passing game if he isn't given time on his route? Based on his strengths he does best on vertical routes (require time) and slant (to the middle of the field where Wilson doesn't throw to)

I understand you want to add a playmaker. But I truly believe that isn't the issue and will most likely be a waste. Seattle is going to need that draft pick because they are going to need young talent to step up on their rookie contracts with the big contracts coming up.

The end result likely ends up being a lost and valuable pick. Plus a loss of 2 million for the same result because the real issue is in the trenches. You'd basically have a Ferrari, but the motor is a small 4 cylinder Honda engine. Beautiful playmakers, but no ability to make them go because the most important part of the offense was neglected. Sure it looks good, but it's not going to function.

 

[massari]

Who's contract are you going to negotiate to fit him in under the cap? How will he help the passing game if he isn't given time on his route? Based on his strengths he does best on vertical routes (require time) and slant (to the middle of the field where Wilson doesn't throw to)

I understand you want to add a playmaker. But I truly believe that isn't the issue and will most likely be a waste. Seattle is going to need that draft pick because they are going to need young talent to step up on their rookie contracts with the big contracts coming up.

The end result likely ends up being a lost and valuable pick. Plus a loss of 2 million for the same result because the real issue is in the trenches. You'd basically have a Ferrari, but the motor is a small 4 cylinder Honda engine. Beautiful playmakers, but no ability to make them go because the most important part of the offense was neglected. Sure it looks good, but it's not going to function.

I got the impression he wasn't going to get traded mid season since that rarely ever happens with wr's.

It doesn't look like they'd have the cap room this season unless they cut Lockette and renegotiate someone's contract slightly. They'll have cap room next season, especially if they let Kearse walk. So basically Patterson replaces Kearse.

Obviously they need OL help, but they can't neglect other positions in the process and WR isn't exactly their strong suit. I just think worst case scenario, Patterson puts up Kearse type numbers but has more potential (judging from scouting reports).

Some solid OL vets signed for about 1-3M last off season (Joe Barksdale, Mathis, Incognito, Wisniewski), so if they can get a couple of guys like that next off season+early draft picks, it seems like adding a 2M WR could be done.

But I'm pretty much just a noob, novice NFL fan whereas you're probably a veteran, so I'll take your word for it lol.

All this talk about Patterson but I'd rather the Hawks go after Josh Gordon, if available lol.

 

[rideaducati]

He'd be getting traded for a mid-to-late round pick beause he doesn't have much (if any) potential as a WR, and ST insurance isn't really a thing.

He lost his starting job last year because he has bad hands and can't run routes. So far this year he's even lost spot WR duty for the same reason.

Regardless though, even if he is available to be traded for, he'd be more valuable to someone who actually needs the thing he can do (ST returner). Paying the market rate in trade for something they don't need wouldn't make much sense.

Here's his scouting report when he was drafted: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cor ... id=2540145

STRENGTHS Easily separates on vertical routes when given a free release. Very few wasted steps on cuts. Very smooth in his breaks. Finds soft areas in zone coverage between corners and safeties. Looks to turn upfield immediately after the catch. Very good with slants, quick head fake out allows for inside release, strong step forward, body catches to prevent pass breakup while shielding corner. Flashes swiping inside arm bar away on back shoulder throws to allow for free turn. Frequently hauls in the difficult catches, especially when the defensive back is draped on him. Not afraid to hand fight all the way along the sideline on vertical routes to create a sliver of separation. Understands hot read recognition when the corner blitzes. Builds speed quickly after the catch, almost gliding when in stride. Good vision with the ball in his hands, cuts upfield when he sees a lane. Used occasionally at running back, has the speed and wiggle to beat defenders to the edge while utilizing hesitations moves. Very nimble on his feet, especially for size. Makes plays out of nothing when carrying the ball. Numerous natural qualities to his game.

WEAKNESSES Consistently a body catcher, even when it is not necessary. Was not frequently asked to go up and get the football at its highest point. Large number of his snaps start while off the line of scrimmage, allows for a better release. Doesn't use his hands enough against a jam, tries to dip or side step rather than slap or push. Tends to throttle down in his breaks.Burst after the catch or return is only adequate but does accelerate quickly. Tries to do too much when the ball is in his hands at times. Dropped a few very catchable balls, including easy bucket throw over shoulder. Inconsistent blocking effort.

NFL COMPARISON Demaryius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE He may be considered raw with his ability to handle physical coverage, but Patterson is one of the more naturally talented pass catchers to come along in the last few years. He only has one year of tape against FBS level of competition, but from the first game Patterson showed his versatility by making plays from a variety of alignments. If the Vol can start using his hands to release off the line and tighten up some technique issues, he should be one of this class' top playmakers. He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board.


Worst case scenario the Seahawks give up a mid-late draft pick, pay 2M for 1 season towards a guy who can split return duties with Lockett, run trick plays in the offense and put up receiving stats similar to Kearse.

He's still only 24 and only played 1 year in college. Maybe a change in environment will do him good. Maybe it won't. But I hope they try.

Who's contract are you going to negotiate to fit him in under the cap? How will he help the passing game if he isn't given time on his route? Based on his strengths he does best on vertical routes (require time) and slant (to the middle of the field where Wilson doesn't throw to)

I understand you want to add a playmaker. But I truly believe that isn't the issue and will most likely be a waste. Seattle is going to need that draft pick because they are going to need young talent to step up on their rookie contracts with the big contracts coming up.

The end result likely ends up being a lost and valuable pick. Plus a loss of 2 million for the same result because the real issue is in the trenches. You'd basically have a Ferrari, but the motor is a small 4 cylinder Honda engine. Beautiful playmakers, but no ability to make them go because the most important part of the offense was neglected. Sure it looks good, but it's not going to function.

No negotiating needed...Patterson for Kearse. A playmaker that can't learn the playbook for a below average player that can. Even if Patterson is a waste, that isn't much worse than Kearse. Plus, removing Kearse would allow for better receivers to finally get more playing time.

 

[chris98251]

He'd be getting traded for a mid-to-late round pick beause he doesn't have much (if any) potential as a WR, and ST insurance isn't really a thing.

He lost his starting job last year because he has bad hands and can't run routes. So far this year he's even lost spot WR duty for the same reason.

Regardless though, even if he is available to be traded for, he'd be more valuable to someone who actually needs the thing he can do (ST returner). Paying the market rate in trade for something they don't need wouldn't make much sense.

Here's his scouting report when he was drafted: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cor ... id=2540145

STRENGTHS Easily separates on vertical routes when given a free release. Very few wasted steps on cuts. Very smooth in his breaks. Finds soft areas in zone coverage between corners and safeties. Looks to turn upfield immediately after the catch. Very good with slants, quick head fake out allows for inside release, strong step forward, body catches to prevent pass breakup while shielding corner. Flashes swiping inside arm bar away on back shoulder throws to allow for free turn. Frequently hauls in the difficult catches, especially when the defensive back is draped on him. Not afraid to hand fight all the way along the sideline on vertical routes to create a sliver of separation. Understands hot read recognition when the corner blitzes. Builds speed quickly after the catch, almost gliding when in stride. Good vision with the ball in his hands, cuts upfield when he sees a lane. Used occasionally at running back, has the speed and wiggle to beat defenders to the edge while utilizing hesitations moves. Very nimble on his feet, especially for size. Makes plays out of nothing when carrying the ball. Numerous natural qualities to his game.

WEAKNESSES Consistently a body catcher, even when it is not necessary. Was not frequently asked to go up and get the football at its highest point. Large number of his snaps start while off the line of scrimmage, allows for a better release. Doesn't use his hands enough against a jam, tries to dip or side step rather than slap or push. Tends to throttle down in his breaks.Burst after the catch or return is only adequate but does accelerate quickly. Tries to do too much when the ball is in his hands at times. Dropped a few very catchable balls, including easy bucket throw over shoulder. Inconsistent blocking effort.

NFL COMPARISON Demaryius Thomas

BOTTOM LINE He may be considered raw with his ability to handle physical coverage, but Patterson is one of the more naturally talented pass catchers to come along in the last few years. He only has one year of tape against FBS level of competition, but from the first game Patterson showed his versatility by making plays from a variety of alignments. If the Vol can start using his hands to release off the line and tighten up some technique issues, he should be one of this class' top playmakers. He should be a first-round selection and could be the first receiver off the board.


Worst case scenario the Seahawks give up a mid-late draft pick, pay 2M for 1 season towards a guy who can split return duties with Lockett, run trick plays in the offense and put up receiving stats similar to Kearse.

He's still only 24 and only played 1 year in college. Maybe a change in environment will do him good. Maybe it won't. But I hope they try.

Who's contract are you going to negotiate to fit him in under the cap? How will he help the passing game if he isn't given time on his route? Based on his strengths he does best on vertical routes (require time) and slant (to the middle of the field where Wilson doesn't throw to)

I understand you want to add a playmaker. But I truly believe that isn't the issue and will most likely be a waste. Seattle is going to need that draft pick because they are going to need young talent to step up on their rookie contracts with the big contracts coming up.

The end result likely ends up being a lost and valuable pick. Plus a loss of 2 million for the same result because the real issue is in the trenches. You'd basically have a Ferrari, but the motor is a small 4 cylinder Honda engine. Beautiful playmakers, but no ability to make them go because the most important part of the offense was neglected. Sure it looks good, but it's not going to function.

No negotiating needed...Patterson for Kearse. A playmaker that can't learn the playbook for a below average player that can. Even if Patterson is a waste, that isn't much worse than Kearse. Plus, removing Kearse would allow for better receivers to finally get more playing time.

So what did Kearse do? Steal your girlfriend? Take your Lunch Money, Beat your team in High School, all the above, this endless bashing of Kearse regardless of how he plays and what he achieves is like listening to Barry Manilow Copa Cabana. back to back to back for days on end.

 

[WilsonMVP]

I think its hilarious people wanting to get rid of kearse and or pick up patterson instead.

Patterson is a gadget type player. Probably just a larger percy harvin to be honest who is terrible at route running

 

[UK_Seahawk]

In seriousness, he comes off a bit of a chump,

Ringless or Patterson?

 

[Largent80]

He doesn't have the capacity to learn a lot of routes. So yeh, he'd be perfect.

With our route concepts?....He would be ready to start right off the plane.