Christian Haynes

[CouchLogic]

Haynes played 14 snaps at right guard against the Vikings, but the results were not that different from when Bradford was in there. As anyone could see, the interior line was a disaster on Sunday.

Although I don't always agree with PFF, these results seem to reflect reality:

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As bad as Bradford has been, Zabel has consistently graded out just as bad as Bradford this year. Unless the Seahawks can improve the play at these two spots, the offense is not going to do well against good teams.

Zabel hasn't been credited with a sack given up though and it's nearing the end up the season. No.1 in the league in that category. That's massive.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Can't imagine anyone not being stoked about Zabel.

 

[bileever]

Zabel has consistently graded as bad as Bradford? I’m throwing a red flag for a review on that statement.

I know, right? That doesn't meet the eye test, but here's the PFF season grades through week 13, and Zabel actually grades out worse than Bradford, with both of them near the bottom of the league:



We have seen that often the whole interior of the line collapses, or there is multiple penetration by the opposing d-line right up the middle. In addition, the interior line often fails to create any opening for our running game. So the grades aren't completely unfair.

 

[Gametime]

Any stat or grading system that somehow shows Bradford as better than Zabel is not one I'd trust then I suppose. That math doesn't math. LOL

 

[hox]

 

[chris98251]

Zabel has consistently graded as bad as Bradford? I’m throwing a red flag for a review on that statement.

This opinion needs to be reviewed in New York, PFF graded them the same? Just shows how bad PFF is, they may go the way of Brian Daboll,Brian Callahan .

 

[ivotuk]

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[hox]

Haynes was actually decent in these limited reps:

 

[MesquiteHawk]

Are you claiming that no team would've traded an OL for a 4th and a 5th? Are you actually claiming that? You can say they don't grow on trees all you want, but we sent a 4th and 5th for a WR we don't need.
Are you actually going to claim no team in the NFL would've taken the 4th and 5th for an OL?
Are you claiming that Shaheed helps us more than an OL would have?
If you aren't willing to make both of those claims then you're admitting I'm right. Either make both of those claims outright or admit I was right. There is no middle ground.

Are you 13, or just run out of your chill pills?

 

[Ostatehawk]

PFF IS flawed. Period.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Are you claiming that no team would've traded an OL for a 4th and a 5th? Are you actually claiming that? You can say they don't grow on trees all you want, but we sent a 4th and 5th for a WR we don't need.
Are you actually going to claim no team in the NFL would've taken the 4th and 5th for an OL?
Are you claiming that Shaheed helps us more than an OL would have?
If you aren't willing to make both of those claims then you're admitting I'm right. Either make both of those claims outright or admit I was right. There is no middle ground.

Board rules state to attack the post, not the poster. While I support it, I'd love to see it go away for an hour to respond properly.

Since that's not an option, I'll just say that this may be the worst post I've witnessed on the board and hope it was alcohol influenced...b/c if not, synapses are misfiring everywhere.

Well, the "Russ is the worst hawk QB ever, and I've seen them all" was pretty bad too.

 

[DTiempo81]

Haynes played 14 snaps at right guard against the Vikings, but the results were not that different from when Bradford was in there. As anyone could see, the interior line was a disaster on Sunday.

Although I don't always agree with PFF, these results seem to reflect reality:

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As bad as Bradford has been, Zabel has consistently graded out just as bad as Bradford this year. Unless the Seahawks can improve the play at these two spots, the offense is not going to do well against good teams.

Reflect reality? You are living in a different reality than the rest of us then.

 

[flv2]

Garbage time PFF grades are like garbage time stats. Good numbers are nice, but they don't really mean anything. The stuff that happens in the 1st 3 quarters means a heck of a lot more.

 

[glenwo2]

Haynes played 14 snaps at right guard against the Vikings, but the results were not that different from when Bradford was in there. As anyone could see, the interior line was a disaster on Sunday.

However, you need to also keep in mind that a Brian Flores Defense has a lot more unique, exotic looks that most defenses don't give opposing teams.

I think that played far more of a role in the OL disaster against the Vikes than anything else, imo.

 

[HawkFreak]

However, you need to also keep in mind that a Brian Flores Defense has a lot more unique, exotic looks that most defenses don't give opposing teams.

I think that played far more of a role in the OL disaster against the Vikes than anything else, imo.

Serious question about the unique and creative looks by Flores. So every week there are completely new looks that no one has seen before? Because if not - there should be existing game tape that can help prepare the Oline for what is coming.

 

[glenwo2]

Serious question about the unique and creative looks by Flores. So every week there are completely new looks that no one has seen before? Because if not - there should be existing game tape that can help prepare the Oline for what is coming.

No.

My point is that Flores' Defense is unique to whatever anyone else is running.