Chip Kelly OC talk again

[RiverDog]

All I can say is that this had better not be the same Chip Kelly who was a disaster in Philly with his Quack Attack offense. There has to be better candidates out there than him.

 

[Nv_Hawks]

I don’t know how to feel about this. Seems like the OC position is taking a long time.

Rightfully so. We need to nail this OC selection. Defense is solid with head coach and Frazier

 

[jammerhawk]

To me it’s more important for the team to make the right choice rather than the speed at which the choice is made.

As far as Chip Kelly is concerned, my initial thoughts are: no thanks. However, lobjectively today’s Chip is changed from old Chip who ran his high speed run and shoot variant. Still to me it doesn’t feel good, but JS and Mac have the vision of what they want to do.

I’m ambivalent even if he is a good coach.

 

[Aircrew]

I swear to God I will pull this car over if Chip Kelly is the next Hawks OC.

 

[fenderbender123]

Why would Chip go from UCLA head coach to NFL OC? Isn't that a downgrade?

 

[halps80]

Why would Chip go from UCLA head coach to NFL OC? Isn't that a downgrade?

Jeff Hafley explains why NFL coordinator is a better job than Boston College head coach

Jeff Hafley surprised a lot of people when he resigned as head coach at Boston College to become defensive coordinator of the Packers.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[BlueTalon]

However, it would be hard to believe an NFL GM/Owner would give Chip another shot as HC.. So, it could be a really nice hire from the perspective as well.

Good point.

 

[Atradees]

There is a reason Pac 12 offenses dont win college championships. IDK He could just toxic up what we are tryin to build. I want some kind of QB whisperer.

 

[fenderbender123]

Jeff Hafley explains why NFL coordinator is a better job than Boston College head coach

Jeff Hafley surprised a lot of people when he resigned as head coach at Boston College to become defensive coordinator of the Packers.

www.nbcsports.com

Exactly. It's a surprise.

 

[Jac]

I'm cool with Kelly. It sounds like an embarrassing and humorously bad hire on the face of things, but Chip's offense ain't the "HAHA, GO REALLY FAST! HAHA! GO GO GO!" type thang anymore. UCLA can pound the rock.

He's proven to have adapted. I'd be on board.

Less likely to be hired away if our offense takes off being a retread and all too

This is an underrated point. This team is going to take three years to pull together (including getting a young QB up to speed). If we get a young hotshot OC that shows success, there's risk of losing him and starting over. Nobody is coming after Kelly for HC.

 

[Maelstrom787]

The misdirection menu​

Defending the UCLA offense creates many challenges. From a defensive standpoint, most of the onus is on second-level defenders (linebackers) who are getting misdirection thrown at them on every play. It produces what coaches call “dirty eyes,” challenging the eye discipline of defenders. Defenders are usually taught to read pre-snap keys. On each play, Kelly throws as many distractions as possible at them, both before and after the snap.

Mainly, this eye candy is produced in two forms: misdirection at the first level and misdirection in the backfield. First-level misdirection consists of false keys at the line of scrimmage like pulling linemen going in opposite directions from the play call. Misdirection in the backfield can be elements like pre-snap or post-snap motion from skill players. And when you watch defenses play against UCLA, you’ll see a good amount of “misfit” linebackers not playing with gap integrity or discipline. There are several examples of this below.

Essentially, the Bruins’ misdirection run menu consists of four staples:

• Boundary zone read concept
• Zone bluff (cruise) concept
• Counter read (bash) concepts
• Same side runs

What makes Chip Kelly's UCLA offense so explosive? Inside the misdirection option

USC at UCLA promises to be a chess match. How has Chip Kelly's run game evolved with Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Zach Charbonnet?

theathletic.com

Here's an article from The Athletic regarding Chip Kelly's UCLA offense, which is a run-first misdirection and option-based offense. He ran it to great effect around the talent of DTR and Zach Charbonnet. Its built around exploiting spacing, matchups, and a lack of defensive gap/edge discipline.

For those of you who like smart run offense with tight, well-executed concepts - it's a thing of beauty. Pulling linemen going all over, RB dicing through cleanly-made holes. Mmm.

 

[Maelstrom787]

It's not all good, however.

Chip Kelly doesn't look like an offensive genius anymore. That puts UCLA atop Misery Index

UCLA turned to Chip Kelly in a bid to break the program's ceiling. But he's largely been unable to get the Bruins' offense off the ground.

www.usatoday.com

They've struggled a bit on offense without talent like DTR and Charbonnet to lean on.

I think Chip's looking to escape because he doesn't want to deal with talent acquisition and NIL stuff. I don't think he can attract a premier team to UCLA.

Chip Kelly with a pass game coordinator to build out the intermediate and deep passing concepts sounds like a really nice option to me. You get a diverse run game, you get a coach known for getting the detail-oriented portion of the offense hammered down, and you get a guy with loads and loads of experience calling games.

 

[Ozzy]

Chip has adapted since his early days. I thought he was a disaster in Philly but he had two years of his offense being rated pretty damn good before the wheels fell off. Maybe he's just not cut out to be a head coach but he's still a very good offensive mind? He did have more success than I remember though when I went back and looked at it.

He isn't my first choice but I don't hate it either. His personality sort of rubbed me wrong in the past but he's also not leading the team so its not a massive point. I don't know that he is known to develop QB's and that worries me a little too.

Yeah Maelstrom nailed it, College football is turning into a mess for coaches, I think a lot of them would leave for the NFL even in lesser roles so they don't have to deal with the bullshit.

 

[Aircrew]

Good point.

There is that.

 

[jammerhawk]

I suspect with the conference change and the transfer portal as observed above Kelly wants out. I’d also think he’d be an OC here not for long if he was successful as it appears he wants back in as a HC in the NFL.

At least he has experience as a HC in the league.

 

[Mad Dog]

I suspect with the conference change and the transfer portal as observed above Kelly wants out. I’d also think he’d be an OC here not for long if he was successful as it appears he wants back in as a HC in the NFL.

At least he has experience as a HC in the league.

Nothing wrong with getting HC failures for coordinators positions IMO. Some guys just are better coordinators than HCs.

And a guy like Kelly with 2 failures on his card would take several years of excellence to get another HC chance.

 

[HawkFreak]

What makes Chip Kelly's UCLA offense so explosive? Inside the misdirection option

USC at UCLA promises to be a chess match. How has Chip Kelly's run game evolved with Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Zach Charbonnet?

theathletic.com

Here's an article from The Athletic regarding Chip Kelly's UCLA offense, which is a run-first misdirection and option-based offense. He ran it to great effect around the talent of DTR and Zach Charbonnet. Its built around exploiting spacing, matchups, and a lack of defensive gap/edge discipline.

For those of you who like smart run offense with tight, well-executed concepts - it's a thing of beauty. Pulling linemen going all over, RB dicing through cleanly-made holes. Mmm.

Is this kind of scheming / offense similar in vision and ideology to the concepts that Shanahan and the 9ers run?

 

[CactusJack]

All I can say is that this had better not be the same Chip Kelly who was a disaster in Philly with his Quack Attack offense. There has to be better candidates out there than him.

I'm not sure there are any better candidates currently.

Chip has evolved as a coach. It's not the same Oregon/Philly offense. I think there are potentially a ton of positives with this move.

He's a better OC than HC in my mind. The guy has a ton of experience. He wants no part of the current college landscape. That's why he's interviewing for this job. He also has coached guys like Charbonnet & Bobo.

He's not going to get another HC opportunity in the NFL. At least not right away.

 

[morgulon1]

I’m actually good with Kelly. He had a couple of really good offensive years in Philly with less talent. His head coaching stuff I don’t care about. He’s a smart dude.

This is what I wanted to hear. I thought his time in Philadelphia was a complete disaster.

 

[bigcc]

There is a reason Pac 12 offenses dont win college championships. IDK He could just toxic up what we are tryin to build. I want some kind of QB whisperer.

LOL, pac 12 offenses dont win championships because they have pac 12 defenses.

That being said I agree with you, I'm really not a fan of him having input on our qb of the future.

Find a qb guru, let him have a loud voice on who that qb should be... Not 60 year old Kelly.