Bradford is gone

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mretrade":1hplggwg said:
Ya. I remember when he was drafted.
He was drafted in 2011...McCloughin resigned after the 2009 season. He's been with tje Seahawks since 2010
 

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I know everyone's slamming Cable, but do you think Norton had a say as well? If the decision was to cut a LB, wouldn't they ask Norton a variety of question on who should be cut?

As some have already stated, Bradford's a converted RB and could fly under the radar. Lutu was a valable UDFA. And, I agree that the TE signing looks like a 1-2 week stop gap.
 

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-The Glove-":a3bae93i said:
jlwaters1":a3bae93i said:
No it's just ridiculous that so many are spazzing over a career backup LBer. He was at best our #7 LB, Not exactly a earthshattering move. What because he made a few plays against garbage players in the preseason he is someone this budding star. I don't get all the outrage.

Career backup LBer? Dude was a converted RB that was just starting to show signs of playmaking ability. Believe it or not, not every starter in the league comes in blazing. Some actually need to be developed. And also part of the reason many are questioning this move is that Lotulelei, an inferior talent and others such as Morgan and Person are still on the 53
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Sucks to lose Bradford but at the end of the day we are still fretting over losing a backup that didn't really meet the measurables our team would like for the position.

Bradford is a converted running back from USC, and has only been around a couple years. He is the JR Sweezy of our linebackers. Pretty sure he should be practice-squad eligible.

Someone earlier said that Bradford doesn't fit the measurables Pete looks for in LBs. WTF??!! Are you kidding me?? Read the dude's NFL combine numbers.
Bradford (and Lotulelei) are quicker/faster than half our RB's and half our WR's. Bradford has a sub-7-second 3-cone time, coming in at 6.97. Bradford runs a 4.5 40. He is listed at 242 lbs.

Bradford is a big, fast, quick LB that fits what Pete likes. However, he is the most likely player to NOT get claimed--other teams are looking for help NOW, and Bradford is still learning the LB position, the reads, and the mental quickness. Add in that he's a USC product, and teams will assume that Pete and his USC connections are a factor in the Seahawks taking him on, that Bradford is a Pete's pet/Pete's project. Someone still might claim him, but this decision basically says that Bradford isn't far enough along with the mental part of the game, making the reads, for teams to try him out and conclude he'd be an immediate upgrade for them. Lotulelei and Bradford are very similar players. However, if Lotulelei gets released, he probably gets claimed immediately, end of story.

I also interpret this decision as Pete thinking that Lotulelei has a bigger positive impact on the team over the course of the season, especially towards the final games and in the playoffs. (Playoffs? mentally cue Jim Mora Sr., it's only week 2) Lotulelei is probably more field-ready and picking things up faster, since he was a LB in college. I also think that Pete sees Lotulelei as a special teams stud in the mold of Heath Farwell, and successor to Farwell, since Farwell is, I believe, at the end of his contract and also hitting 30+.

Read what NFL.com says about Bradford coming out of college as a running back.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/all ... id=2495125

Interesting parts about struggling with pass-pro. And trying to take it wide when it's not there. Suggests that he might take longer to get certain types of reads down, or that he is one of those players that emotionally locks in/predecides on something, and is so committed that he has trouble adjusting quickly when the situation that confronts him calls for a different read. So he would be a great read and hit linebacker, against non-deceptive offenses, but would take more time to learn to recognize other cues, and let go of his emotional attachment to going with the first obvious read. Like a basketball player seeing open court and deciding to two-hand dunk, but at the last moment, Dikembe Mutombo in his prime flashes beside him. He tries to dunk anyway, being emotionally committed to it, and gets stuffed by Mutombo, instead of a better choice, like letting Mutombo fly by and doing a little reverse layup for the score. So I'm thinking Bradford has a little bit of that going on, "unlearning" some habits, and needs more time/reps to learn how to play LB at the NFL level where he has to quickly decide on the nuances between several possible reads and then act.

I hope he winds up still being a Seahawk, but Pete and John do make some sense on this.
 

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Are we all bent out of shape because we dropped a guy that has very little chance of ever stepping on the field?

I liked him too in preseason. But we know that we have issues at TE and on the OL. So keeping depth on the OL and improving it at the TE spot seems worthwhile to me.

I liked Bradford over Lotulelei as well. But we don't have the same years in control of Bradford. This really isn't a big loss. And who is to say that we won't be dropping Person once Irvin comes on board. It's likely that both Person and Bradford (and maybe Lotulelei too once Harvin returns) are/were all on the potential chopping block. Ultimately we're going to have some missing pieces return. The order in which the low men on the totem pole are discarded doesn't really matter.
 

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:1: yawn. We're talking about a back-up LB here? Back-up LB's are a dime a dozen.

Everyone out there already has a back up LB of equal or greater value to Bradford. He's shown some potential sure, but this isn't exactly the second coming of Mike Singletary we're talking about here. Anyone out there who dumps the back-up LB they already have for Bradford is only making a lateral move. I can't see too many teams being all hot and bothered to screw with team chemestry for a lateral move. I'm not too worried about Bradford being gone forever...

Worry all you want about SF picking him up and pumping him for information, but it's pretty late in the week. I can't see SF even being able to do anything with any info they get out of him in the time they have left. They fly out tomorrow probably...
 

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I don't think Bradford is just any backup LB. He started with the starting defense against San Diego and looked like one of our better defenders. I think if Bradford gets picked up, this decision is instantly a big mistake. However, I do think Bradford was released precisely because he's an under the radar guy. If they release Farwell, he might not even clear waivers. Lotulelei had a lot of interest in UDFA and probably doesn't make it. Bradford is a converted RB who has been available to sign plenty of times before. It's not a gamble I would have made, but I think they'll probably get away with it, and I think Bradford will be back at the first opportunity, or at least next preseason.

We also don't need Bradford right now. Wright has taken to the WILL spot fairly well (though his coverage still sucks), and with Mike Morgan being 241 pounds he's basically a similar player to Bradford, though I think Bradford is clearly the better of the two.

The thing about Pete, almost every time he makes an ill-advised roster move, things usually work out just fine anyway. His track record has really helped me get over some highly questionable roster decisions the last couple weeks.
 

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Yep, knew he wouldn't clear waivers. You can't compare end-of-rosters moves now to the ones we made in 2011 or even last year. There's much better talent at the end of the roster now than in years past, as you can see by the number of our guys being claimed off waivers. Odds are better than ever that we might let someone go who can eventually make waves in this league.
 

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Tech Worlds":6sm5ley1 said:
Do you guys miss Bradford?

I feel so empty and lost since he left.

I still don't think you understand the meaning of the word "miss".
You can miss something and not be despondent, did you know that?
 

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I wonder if Mike Person would clear waivers...

Maybe we should have tested that theory instead.
And then wondered, "Hey, if nobody else wanted him... why the heck is he on our team?"
 

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It makes me happy to know a team we play later in the year claims a player who isn't good enough to play on our team.
 

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Hawkstorian":252ft3j1 said:
It makes me happy to know a team we play later in the year claims a player who isn't good enough to play on our team.

Or said player holds a grudge, or as the media cliche goes "plays with a chip on his shoulder". (you notice how thats pretty much anyone apparently)

And that said player goes to the coach and says, "these are the looks we give when we run this play"

Thats what I hate about releasing players the most.
 

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Cartire":28plmz0n said:
Or said player holds a grudge, or as the media cliche goes "plays with a chip on his shoulder". (you notice how thats pretty much anyone apparently)

And that said player goes to the coach and says, "these are the looks we give when we run this play"

Thats what I hate about releasing players the most.

It won't matter.
 
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