Apparently,...the 'Niners WR corps consists of A. Boldin

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000223816/article/what-we-learned-tuesday-sky-not-falling-on-seattle

Per this article (which starts with the "sky-is-falling" Harvin note).

The Seahawks almost made it to the NFC title game without Harvin last year. They don't have to worry about who they've got on the field.

Harvin will be back later in the season,...........when it will be the PERFECT time to introduce "wrinkles" to the Offensive game plan.

I predict our Seahawks will be the "hottest" team going into the Playoffs (with Home field advantage).

And the 'Niners will "pale" by comparison.
 

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Boldin runs like he's carrying Harvin on his back. He was once a great one, but he won't scare anyone on the LOB.
 
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I'm actually having nightmares of Lockett coming back to haunt US. The man has some serious afterburners. He may actually gain a spot on their final roster.

Then, of course, there's Vernon Davis.

The man is a mutant. Period.

And I'm sorry,.......but I must (respectfully) disagree about Boldin. The man has hard-fought receptions to be admired.

And he did so in the post-season and Superbowl last year.

The 'Niners just appear to be a little "thin" at WR right now.

Just sayin'.
 

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Niners battle Cards for third place... your local news is next.
 

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Agree whole heatedly the Niners offense was much better last season. Reports are saying they have V. Davis getting a lot of reps at WR. The thing is they lost D. Walker in free agency! Who's gonna play TE if Davis lines up at WR?

Jenkins, their first round WR last year, doesn't appear to be progressing well in camp. That wouldn't be such crushing news if he wasn't trying to fill the shoes of Manningham/Crabtree. Niners have some serious question marks on offense.

Heck, they don't even have a true burner to take the top off the defense. Ted Gin Jr. left in free agency, as well. That's not good for Boldin!
 

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mr.stlouis":3h1eflh9 said:
Agree whole heatedly the Niners offense was much better last season. Reports are saying they have V. Davis getting a lot of reps at WR. The thing is they lost D. Walker in free agency! Who's gonna play TE if Davis lines up at WR?

VANCE McDONALD


Heck, they don't even have a true burner to take the top off the defense. Ted Gin Jr. left in free agency, as well. That's not good for Boldin!

RICARDO THE ROCKET LOCKETTE
 

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HawkWow":fowkhe7u said:
Boldin runs like he's carrying Harvin on his back. He was once a great one, but he won't scare anyone on the LOB.
Based on what we 49er fans have heard in camp, Boldin is a better WR than Crabtree in many ways. Besides speed and ability to make people miss, Boldin has him beat. Better hands, better route running, better at beating press coverage, better able to get jump balls, better leader, etc. Of course, Crabtree was just beginning to come into his own. We'll see when he comes back, but what I've seen of Boldin so far, and also last year and the year before, I really feel that Boldin is better. Or at least a better possession WR, and that was basically what Crabtree has been used for his entire career.

mr.stlouis":fowkhe7u said:
Agree whole heatedly the Niners offense was much better last season. Reports are saying they have V. Davis getting a lot of reps at WR. The thing is they lost D. Walker in free agency! Who's gonna play TE if Davis lines up at WR?

Jenkins, their first round WR last year, doesn't appear to be progressing well in camp. That wouldn't be such crushing news if he wasn't trying to fill the shoes of Manningham/Crabtree. Niners have some serious question marks on offense.

Heck, they don't even have a true burner to take the top off the defense. Ted Gin Jr. left in free agency, as well. That's not good for Boldin!

At TE, rookie Vance McDonald has looked very good in camp (2nd round pick). Based on what we 49er fans have seen in camp, Vance is going to be better than Walker. He's bigger, too. A lot bigger.


Now, the thing is, Vernon Davis won't be playing WR. He'll just be moved around more. He'll probably do what Walker did for us last year, and Vance will do what Vernon did. But our second WR situation is not good, unless Kyle Williams is at full strength by the opener. I believe in Williams. He was really starting to grow with Kaepernick throwing to him last year until he got injured. By the time he, Manningham, and Crabtree are back (last fourth of the season), we will have quite the WR corps. Until then, the quality of our WR corps beyond Boldin hinges on Kyle Williams getting healthy. With Williams fully healthy, our WR corps, in my opinion, DOESN'T take a step back from last year. Last year it was Randy Moss and Crabtree. Moss still drew a lot of double coverage, but he was the third WR until Manningham got injured. Without Williams and Manningham, I would say that last year's WRs were only a little better than what we're fielding now, if Williams is healthy.

If not, however, we're screwed at that position. Because as physically talented as Lockette is, he seems to be a little dense. He's not picking things up quickly enough to really make a difference.
 

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I heard from a NFL scouting professional say this year Bolden is more crisp in and out of his routes than jerry rice. His long speed makes randy moss look like chris carter. Hes catching the ball like Herman Moore everyday and can out jump Calvin Johnson to boot. He is so much better than last year all those games you saw are bull crap. Boldin is a legit number one in this league that's why he cost so much to get.
 

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cockeyhawk":12jltv5j said:
I heard from a NFL scouting professional say this year Bolden is more crisp in and out of his routes than jerry rice. His long speed makes randy moss look like chris carter. Hes catching the ball like Herman Moore everyday and can out jump Calvin Johnson to boot. He is so much better than last year all those games you saw are bull crap. Boldin is a legit number one in this league that's why he cost so much to get.
Nice sarcasm. The fact is he is better than Crabtree at a lot of things. Did you see his play off statistics?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/rave ... 9438.story

Does that mean he'll be that good? No, but he is good. He is at least on Crabtree's level, at worst just under it. At best, just above it.

After a regular season better than any Crabtree season except just this past year (about what you'd expect from a low end #1 or a good #2), he went on to have an all time great post season.

link above":12jltv5j said:
Boldin hauled in 22 catches for 380 yards and four touchdowns in the playoffs, as he averaged 17.3 yards per reception.
His catches and receiving yards were both Ravens single-season playoff records.

The yardage ranks Boldin seventh in NFL playoff history behind Larry Fitzgerald, Hakeem Nicks, Jerry Rice, Steve Smith, Charlie Brown and Anthony Carter.

And his catches tied him for sixth in NFL playoff history with Joseph Addai, Tony Nathan and Dan Ross.

He's good. He is not bad. He is not average. He's better than average. I think he's near Crabtree's level. Well, that's just me taking into account general opinions on the matter. Personally, I really believe he's BETTER than Crabtree. I think Crabtree is overrated, and looked good only because Kaepernick was throwing high velocity darts to him down the field in tight coverage.

Without Randy Moss drawing some coverage away from him, I think Crabtree would have been shut down just like he was in the 2011-2012 NFC Championship game. He doesn't get good separation. Neither does Boldin much. The difference is, Boldin WINS battles for the ball MUCH more than Crabtree does. Crabtree excels at making people miss after the catch. But in tight man coverage, don't confuse great Kaepernick throws with Crabtree beating someone. He's overrated. And Boldin is underrated.
 

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Because opposing secondaries had to deal with two other WRs who were far more dangerous then Boldin, as well as a capable TE. Boldin past his prime is a role player not a marquee player. LMAO Boldin only stung your own leaky secondary in the SB because the other two WRs completely burned it, the score would have been quite different if Boldin were doing all the work.
 

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Wow, thanks 5gr, I needed a good laugh to start the day but for future posting you need to hit that sarcasm off button or some might think your actually serious.

Aww man that was some good stuff. Keep it comin man.
 

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cockeyhawk":1bigzhim said:
I heard from a NFL scouting professional say this year Bolden is more crisp in and out of his routes than jerry rice. His long speed makes randy moss look like chris carter. Hes catching the ball like Herman Moore everyday and can out jump Calvin Johnson to boot. He is so much better than last year all those games you saw are bull crap. Boldin is a legit number one in this league that's why he cost so much to get.
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Aside from what 5-golden-rings said. I'm personally a bit concerned about the 49er WR corps. A lot of unknowns. Yes they still have VD, and yes they have Bolden - who is about half as good as you described. :mrgreen: But there are a lot of unknowns still on the pass catching side at least until Manningham and Crabs come back (if they can come back). The 49ers will just have to run a lot more if the WR corps doesn't come up to speed. I can see the offense possibly regressing to 2011 levels.
 

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Manningham is going to play the majority of the season and Kyle Williams is decent. They just aren't healthy for camp. AJ Jenkins was a first round pick who hasn't shown anything so I am not expecting anything from him. Vance McDonald is suppose to replace Delanie Walker and more. Crabtree is suppose to be back by the playoffs like Harvin but I am not counting on it.
 

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Go watch the preseason games.

Then go watch the Green Bay game again.

Boldin is absolutely a better receiver than Crabtree. It isn't close.

He catches the ball when covered, even with 2 people literally leaning on him. He makes incredible one handed catches and he is physical. Just like we play a bit in the grey area with how physical our coverage is, Bolding has a knack for pushing people without making it blatant. He does a lot of subtle offensive pass interference that will never get called.

People can mock the results or makes excuses for them all they want but we wouldn't be talking about him so much if he didn't scare us. And he is going to make it that much harder to concentrate on Davis, which was the the old plan we used.

Boldin with Crabtree and Davis on the same field is a nightmare I don't want to consider right now until we get a real pass rush back.
 

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TwistedHusky":3kget50s said:
Go watch the preseason games.

Then go watch the Green Bay game again.

Boldin is absolutely a better receiver than Crabtree. It isn't close.

He catches the ball when covered, even with 2 people literally leaning on him. He makes incredible one handed catches and he is physical. Just like we play a bit in the grey area with how physical our coverage is, Bolding has a knack for pushing people without making it blatant. He does a lot of subtle offensive pass interference that will never get called.

People can mock the results or makes excuses for them all they want but we wouldn't be talking about him so much if he didn't scare us. And he is going to make it that much harder to concentrate on Davis, which was the the old plan we used.

Boldin with Crabtree and Davis on the same field is a nightmare I don't want to consider right now until we get a real pass rush back.

Um...No.

Maybe 5 years ago.

Boldin had a great game, but lets not get all nuts now.
 

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They are both pretty dam good receivers. Imagine how dangerous they will be both on the field at the same time.
 
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