All Under-Rated team

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This can be a team of 1st-UDFA's, put together a team that is full of players you think are under rated and will be better than where they were drafted.

QB- Matt Barkley
RB- Jonathan Franklin
FB- Zach Line
WR- Aaron Dobson
WR- Stedman Bailey
TE- Jordan Reed
OT- Justin Pugh
OG- Alvin Bailey
OC- Barret Jones
OG- Kyle Long
OT- Luke Marquardt


FS- Matt Elam
SS- Duke Williams
CB- Tyrann Mathieu
CB- Steve Williams
OLB- Kaseem Green
ILB- Jon Bostic
OLB- Gerald Hodges
DE- Devin Taylor
DT- Jesse Williams
DT- Kwame Geathers
DE- Alex Okafor

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QB- Jordan Rodgers
RB- Le'Veon Bell
FB- Kyle Juszczyk
WR- Ryan Swope
WR- Charles Johnson
TE- Ryan Otten
OT- Terron Armstead
OG- Brennan Williams
OC- Barret Jones
OG- Hugh Thornton
OT- David Quessenberry


FS- Matt Elam
SS- Ray Polk
CB- Desmond Trufant
CB- David Amerson
OLB- Jayson DiManche
ILB- Kiko Alonso
OLB- Jamie Collins
DE- David Bass
DT- Bennie Logan
DT- Brandon Williams
DE- John Simon
 
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I like
Juszczyk
Swope
Collins
Logan
B.Williams

curios about Ray Polk I will have to look into him
 

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Hehehe... I think I can just go to my draft board for this lineup.

QB - Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech
RB - Andre Ellington, Clemson
FB - Zach Line, SMU
WR - Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech
WR - Chad Bumphis, Mississippi St.
TE - Gavin Escobar, San Diego St.
OT - Matt Sewell, McMasters in Canada - Canada??? What the hell?
OG - Larry Warford, Kentucky
C - Mario Benavides, Louisville
OG - Matt Summers-Gavin, California
OT - Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin

DE - Margus Hunt, SMU
DT - Johnathan Hankins, Ohio St.
DT - Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
DE - Joe Kruger, Utah
OLB - Keith Pough, Howard
ILB - Michael Mauti, Penn St.
OLB - Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
CB - Desmond Trufant, Where did this guy go to school?
FS - Jamar Taylor, Boise St.
SS - T.J. McDonald, USC
CB - David Amerson, NC State
 

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I'm leaving some fields blank as I haven't scouted every position.

QB- Matt Barkley / Tyler Wilson (tie)
RB- Cierre Wood (Notre Dame)
FB-
WR- Ryan Swope
WR- Courtney Gardner
TE- (ugh, tough one)... Zach Ertz
OT- Lane Johnson (I think the top 3 tackles are all virtually tied and Johnson will be the 3rd taken)
OG-
OC-
OG-
OT- Luke Marquardt


FS- Jakar Hamilton
SS- Cooper Taylor
CB- Robert Alford
CB- Micah Hyde
OLB- Gerald Hodges (4-3 OLB)
OLB- Jarvis Jones (3-4 OLB)
OLB- Jayson Dimanche (4-3 / 3-4 hybrid OLB)
OLB- Sean Porter (4-3 / 3-4 hybrid OLB)
ILB- AJ Klein
ILB- Tom Wort
DE- Armonty Bryant
DT- Kawann Short
DT- Abry Jones / Stefan Charles (tie)
DE- John Simon (DE/DT hybrid)
 

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Im always entertained by the "underrated" player that becomes "overrated" within forums. Swope for example.......a few dudes within a forum hype him up and then he is suddenly on everyones must draft/underrated list. I like watching those trends come and go.
 
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I like Swope but only as a 3rd or 4th round pick. I'm not sure he will be a true outside WR and we need an outside guy much more than another slot guy.
 
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I remember last year there were some hardcore Courtney Upshaw followers. I was fairly anti Upshaw. When people start believing a certain guy is who JS would pick we tend to start over valueing that player
 

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T-Sizzle":12ioq43n said:
Im always entertained by the "underrated" player that becomes "overrated" within forums. Swope for example.......a few dudes within a forum hype him up and then he is suddenly on everyones must draft/underrated list. I like watching those trends come and go.

I'm pretty sure the thread meant who's under-rated nationally, not who's under-rated at Seahawks.net.
 

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firebee":n7q58r00 said:
Hehehe... I think I can just go to my draft board for this lineup.

QB - Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech
RB - Andre Ellington, Clemson
FB - Zach Line, SMU
WR - Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech
WR - Chad Bumphis, Mississippi St.
TE - Gavin Escobar, San Diego St.
OT - Matt Sewell, McMasters in Canada - Canada??? What the hell?
OG - Larry Warford, Kentucky
C - Mario Benavides, Louisville
OG - Matt Summers-Gavin, California
OT - Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin

DE - Margus Hunt, SMU
DT - Johnathan Hankins, Ohio St.
DT - Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
DE - Joe Kruger, Utah
OLB - Keith Pough, Howard
ILB - Michael Mauti, Penn St.
OLB - Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
CB - Desmond Trufant, Where did this guy go to school?
FS - Jamar Taylor, Boise St.
SS - T.J. McDonald, USC
CB - David Amerson, NC State


Mauti is a great pick. He is a solid LB and an even better team leader. His only downside is the injury....
 

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I'll give it a go:

QB
  • Matt Barkley. Considered top 10 last year. I don't see a drop of 20 spots based on this year.

RB
  • Christine Michael. This guy looks comparable to a Doug Martin back. I definitely like him more than David Wilson and Lamichael James. Both 2nd round guys from 2012. If he goes in the 4th, I think that's 2 full rounds too late.

WR
  • Swope. I think he's the best of this class. Yet he's almost always ranked a good round to round and a half after guys like Justin Hunter. He's a guy in my mind, I'd reach for in the end of the first round. I think he's that excellent. He is likely to go about 50 draft spots lower than he probably should.

TE -- I kind of see guys going where they should. I don't think there are any Jimmy Grahams/Aaron Hernandez/Rob Gronkowski TEs in this draft. Those were all day 2 picks. I don't think any of this years are going to go lower than they should relative to other players and where they went. I'm sure there will be a late round guy who performs like a 3rd round Escobar/Kelce prospect. It's hard to say who. I've championed one such guy. But he could easily just be a camp body too. Cunningham should be a late day 3 guy due to the risk.

If pressed, I'd go with Levine Toilolo. He's going to go late I expect and I would be surprised if he doesn't make a team. He's a world theory guy. He's not the receiver Ertz is, but Ertz's physical measurables flat out stink. Like Lane Johnson has better measurables if he decided he'd just rather go back to TE instead of sticking at LT. He may not be anything close to the receiving TE in the pros when he can't present a mismatch at the next level. I can't see any of our LBs having troubles man covering Ertz. Toilolo on the other hand makes Marcedes Lewis look like Kelly Jennings. He's a mismatch the day he walks in the door.

OT
  • Brennan Williams
  • Jordan Mills

I'm blanking on a lot. Really, you could list 5 to 10 guys and you'd miss 5 more. I know there are a lot that I like deep into the draft. This is such a great OT draft. It's the best I've ever seen hands down. Both at the top and 5-10 even 20 deep. Seriously, there are 64 starting OTs in the league. We could see almost a third of 2014's starting OTs taken this year. It's just amazingly good.

DE:
  • Alex Okafor. This is a guy that produces. And a guy that does so without help. He might be the best in this class at being able to actually beat his man 1 v 1 quickly enough to translate effectively at the next level. I'd say he's flat out better than Mingo straight up. He's going to go 30 spots later than he should.
  • John Simon. Yeah. Man Crush. No explanation necessary.
  • Quanterus Smith. Although I think he'll go where he should based on risk and injury (5th-7th), I just firmly believe he's going to be a productive player in this league.
  • Armonty Bryant. Same with Q. I think he'll go where he should based on risk. But I think he'll be seen as a steal after he's made an NFL squad.

DT:
  • Kwame Geathers. I like him better than Jenkins straight up. Jenkins is a patty cake DT. Geathers is a stick his facemask in your breastplate and see if you bend backwards kind of DT. Yet I would bet Geathers goes 2 maybe 3 rounds after Jenkins.

There are a lot to list here. Honestly, with the depth at OT and DT, 3rd round guys are going to be like early 2nd round guys in a normal year. Guys are going to slip just on sheer numbers.

LB:
  • Gerald Hodges. This is a guy who just makes plays. I like fan favorites that produce. Just so long as their measurables are relatively better than Nick Reed's. You can't play DE when the WRs on your team are bigger/faster/stronger than you.
  • Sio Moore. I think this guy is worthy of round 1. He's probably a mid 2nd round guy. I like Moore better than Ogletree.
 

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Attyla, I appreciate the thought, effort, and especially the formatting you do in your posts. Good work.
 
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kearly":1fvg4ocm said:
Attyla, I appreciate the thought, effort, and especially the formatting you do in your posts. Good work.

Agreed, great contribution. He may not have as many posts as some but this one shows the knowledge of a Vet.

Qustion, what round do you think we can get a LB who will beat out Malcom Smith, Corey Toomer, and or any other LB alreayd on our Roster for the starting WLB spot?

This draft seems deeper at LB than last year so if Toomer a 5th round pick couldn't make the active roster. I think that a 5th this year would be is a heated competion to beat out a 5th rd LB who now has 1 year in the pros under his belt.

I think the LBs that will be available in the 4th would put up a good fight vs Smith for that spot, and a LB in the 2nd or 3rd should easily win the starting spot. Would you rather have a surefire(Green, Brown, Moore, ect) starting LB or one who had to struggle to beat out Smith?
 

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Wenhawk":zp8q2nyo said:
kearly":zp8q2nyo said:
Attyla, I appreciate the thought, effort, and especially the formatting you do in your posts. Good work.

Agreed, great contribution. He may not have as many posts as some but this one shows the knowledge of a Vet.

Qustion, what round do you think we can get a LB who will beat out Malcom Smith, Corey Toomer, and or any other LB alreayd on our Roster for the starting WLB spot?

This draft seems deeper at LB than last year so if Toomer a 5th round pick couldn't make the active roster. I think that a 5th this year would be is a heated competion to beat out a 5th rd LB who now has 1 year in the pros under his belt.

I think the LBs that will be available in the 4th would put up a good fight vs Smith for that spot, and a LB in the 2nd or 3rd should easily win the starting spot. Would you rather have a surefire(Green, Brown, Moore, ect) starting LB or one who had to struggle to beat out Smith?

Thanks for the kind words!

I think last years' class of LBs was kind of easy to lose track of. Many of the really quality LBs toiled in relative anonymity for bad clubs. I mean who really followed the Eagles, Titans or Bucs? Those teams were basically out of contention before the first day of fall. In truth, there were a lot of excellent LBs in the draft not named Kuechly or Wagner.

This years' crop is horribly slower than last years. I think there were 5 LBs who timed at the combine faster than all of the deflated pro day times of the best LBs this year outside of Gooden. Gooden would have been the third fastest LB in last years class. But Gooden didn't have the physicality of really any of the guys that went in the top 3 rounds of last year.

It's easy to lose sight of guys like Mychal Kendricks, Zach Brown, Lavonte David and Demario Davis from last year. Those guys are all going to be legit starters on opening day this year. Those guys were pretty outstanding last year. And I certainly don't see a Bobby Wagner or a Luke Kuechly to headline this class.

This years' class seems to be much bigger though. I also think they are in general more physical. Probably more attractive to 3-4 clubs than the speedy, but slighter class of 2012. It's not a bad class. But for our aims, I think the pickings are much much slimmer.

I do suspect you will be right in this sense: that this LB class will produce deeper in the draft, because of the glut of quality in the OL, DL, CB and WR groups. LBs are going to get squeezed out to rounds 3 and 4 that probably should be 2nd round worthy. It's unlikely that a run on LB talent will develop, but you can definitely see runs on at least 2 of those aforementioned groups. Maybe all 4 of them -- before teams in general start addressing the LB needs.

This draft is going to be a wild one. It's really one that fans shouldn't miss live. Because the anticipation of who is on the board when we pick is going to be very high. There will probably be no less than 5 prospects available that we never would have thought would last to our picks. The lead up to our selections is going to be neat to experience.
 

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Attyla the Hawk":2elwfv29 said:
Wenhawk":2elwfv29 said:
kearly":2elwfv29 said:
Attyla, I appreciate the thought, effort, and especially the formatting you do in your posts. Good work.

Agreed, great contribution. He may not have as many posts as some but this one shows the knowledge of a Vet.

Qustion, what round do you think we can get a LB who will beat out Malcom Smith, Corey Toomer, and or any other LB alreayd on our Roster for the starting WLB spot?

This draft seems deeper at LB than last year so if Toomer a 5th round pick couldn't make the active roster. I think that a 5th this year would be is a heated competion to beat out a 5th rd LB who now has 1 year in the pros under his belt.

I think the LBs that will be available in the 4th would put up a good fight vs Smith for that spot, and a LB in the 2nd or 3rd should easily win the starting spot. Would you rather have a surefire(Green, Brown, Moore, ect) starting LB or one who had to struggle to beat out Smith?

Thanks for the kind words!

I think last years' class of LBs was kind of easy to lose track of. Many of the really quality LBs toiled in relative anonymity for bad clubs. I mean who really followed the Eagles, Titans or Bucs? Those teams were basically out of contention before the first day of fall. In truth, there were a lot of excellent LBs in the draft not named Kuechly or Wagner.

This years' crop is horribly slower than last years. I think there were 5 LBs who timed at the combine faster than all of the deflated pro day times of the best LBs this year outside of Gooden. Gooden would have been the third fastest LB in last years class. But Gooden didn't have the physicality of really any of the guys that went in the top 3 rounds of last year.

It's easy to lose sight of guys like Mychal Kendricks, Zach Brown, Lavonte David and Demario Davis from last year. Those guys are all going to be legit starters on opening day this year. Those guys were pretty outstanding last year. And I certainly don't see a Bobby Wagner or a Luke Kuechly to headline this class.

This years' class seems to be much bigger though. I also think they are in general more physical. Probably more attractive to 3-4 clubs than the speedy, but slighter class of 2012. It's not a bad class. But for our aims, I think the pickings are much much slimmer.

I do suspect you will be right in this sense: that this LB class will produce deeper in the draft, because of the glut of quality in the OL, DL, CB and WR groups. LBs are going to get squeezed out to rounds 3 and 4 that probably should be 2nd round worthy. It's unlikely that a run on LB talent will develop, but you can definitely see runs on at least 2 of those aforementioned groups. Maybe all 4 of them -- before teams in general start addressing the LB needs.

This draft is going to be a wild one. It's really one that fans shouldn't miss live. Because the anticipation of who is on the board when we pick is going to be very high. There will probably be no less than 5 prospects available that we never would have thought would last to our picks. The lead up to our selections is going to be neat to experience.
I know. I am considering cancelling my wedding rehearsal because I do not want to miss day 2 live and day 3 is my wedding LOL. Horrible planning on my part. Chart 100+ players over the last 6 months and miss the payoff!
 

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QB- Matt Barkley
RB- Kniles Davis
FB- <whatever>
WR- Aaron Mallet
WR- Markus Harrison
TE- Ryan Otten
OT- Menelik Watson
OG- Barrett Jones
OC- Travis Frederick
OG- Dallas Thomas
OT- Brian Winters


FS- D.J. Swearinger
SS- TJ McDonald
CB- Jonthan Banks
CB- David Amerson
OLB- Trevardo Williams
ILB- Kevin Reddick
OLB- Eric Martin
DE- Devin Taylor
DT- Jesse Williams
DT- Jordan Hill
DE- Damontre Moore
 

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And firebee shoots and scores again with the Marcus Davis reference! Davis is my Official 2013 Adopt-A-Draft Pick. For the record, I'm already laying dibs on Andrew "Action" Jackson for 2014.
 
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