All 22, offensive look.

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First a few notes that can be seen from the broadcast as well as the all-22.

Seattle struggled mightily to create yards on first down. by my count, which is quite likely wrong, 43 yards on 14 runs ( I stopped tabualting first down plays when it became clear it was clock killing time). Take out Turbin's 13 yard run vs a 6 man front, and it's 13 first down runs for 30 yards.

Which killed play action. The all 22 shows San Fran's secondary not giving any concern to runs stop on play action, with their corners and safeties taking very deep drops during the paly action. Wilson would go to his deep read, and no chance.

On the interception, either Wilson made a terrible pass, or Tate was supposed to angle to the sideline. Reid has eyes on WIlson the whole play, Tate looks, sees the ball is going to his left, and when he tried to adjust is when he trips. I think he could have gotten there, but most likely he is playing pass D more than trying to make a catch.
I think it was in the gameplan to test the rookie safety, but that is a bad matchup.

At 12:05, the loss of Okung first shows up. McQuistin gets smoked by Smith, and too bad, because Rice had broken coverage and is 5 yards behind the D with nobody between him and the endline. Russell is getting set to let it go when he gets squished.

7:29 , 2nd qtr. The play where Brooks smokes Wilson on the fake handoff. It seems to me this is a called play if San Fran sees the RO look, because as the ball is snapped Reid is coming up from his deep spot to fill the area behind Brooks. Reid looks terrible in whiffing on Lynch, it was a very I don't want any kind of attempted ankle grab. I think this play was pivotal in making Bevell not call as much read option for a while, as well as allowing San Fran to start ignoring Russell and crashing down on the RB in read option for most of the rest of the game.

1:41 of the second quarter, Turbin rips a 24 yard run. It gets called back, holding on Breno. I still can't figure out how it was anything but a good block.

10:05 3rd qtr. Tate motions to running back behind Wilson. Wilson fakes the toss to Tate, then bootlegs into an 8 yard sack. Brooks gets the face mask, otherwise this is one ugly play. File this formation away, I think this was a play really meant for Harvin. In fact, Tate looks to me like he only has one guy to beat around the left side. Toss to Tate may have been a touchdown.

9:18 3rd qtr. 11 personnel, read option gun. Niners respond with nickel. Brooks has contain, so he makes a move neither toward Wilson or Lynch, really meaning Seattle has 6 guys to block 5 up front. Touchdown, 14 easy yards.

3:48, 3rd qtr. Seattle aligns in same read option formation as the previous touchdown. Brooks crashes down on Lynch, Wilson gives it anyway, 2 yard gain. I am beginning to think some of these read options are just play fakes, with Wilson having no intent to keep.
Some other notes:
When Seattle had a fullback in the game, the Niners almost always stacked 8. When it was single back, Lynch and Turbin ran very, very well. San Fran's nickel is extremely easy to run on, especially with Dahl back there at safety. Their base defense, not so much. They have no problem putting Whitner on Miller, who could not get open for the most part.

I have always been quick to bang on Bevell, I'm not here to do this right now. I have no illusions about why we were running on 8 man fronts, it was all an attempt to win a bare knuckle brawl. However, San Fran was letting us dictate personnel, they responded with nickel to most 11 personnel groups, and were just getting gashed by runs in that grouping. Play action vs that group was mostly a waste, they were geeked up to stop play action in the secondary all night, and for the most part our receivers struggled to get much separation.
 

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If the niners were stacking the box with 8 guys and we had no success why wasn't Russell changing the play and getting us into something that had a higher rate of success.

I am thinking this is what he is suppose to do but simply isn't doing well at yet. So often he is getting sacked when moving protections, changing the play, going to a hot read, would get him out of getting sacked. I hope he learns this before he gets hurt.

Thanks for the writeup Mojo
 

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I am very curious, and sorry I don't have the time or really the desire to do it myself, but how did the WR's look? Were they getting any separation at all? Who do we blame for the WR's catching a total of 3 passes? If you get time to look or already have, thanks!
 

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Tical21":4hjokbv8 said:
I am very curious, and sorry I don't have the time or really the desire to do it myself, but how did the WR's look? Were they getting any separation at all? Who do we blame for the WR's catching a total of 3 passes? If you get time to look or already have, thanks!

I also would like to know this. Didn't seem like our WR's got much separation at all. Is Rice still limited? I did see Kearse on the field quite a bit.
 
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Tical21":1sidwna5 said:
I am very curious, and sorry I don't have the time or really the desire to do it myself, but how did the WR's look? Were they getting any separation at all? Who do we blame for the WR's catching a total of 3 passes? If you get time to look or already have, thanks!
Honestly, I thought the separation was miserable. None were consistent.
 

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Scottemojo":2yq0jttg said:
Tical21":2yq0jttg said:
I am very curious, and sorry I don't have the time or really the desire to do it myself, but how did the WR's look? Were they getting any separation at all? Who do we blame for the WR's catching a total of 3 passes? If you get time to look or already have, thanks!
Honestly, I thought the separation was miserable. None were consistent.

That is my take away as well. Baldwin and then Rice were probably the two that got open the most, unfortunately SF did a good job making Russell uncomfortable. On at least one of the sacks, Russell was seconds away from a big play. Tate had an unremarkable game, outside of his catch on the shovel pass. On top of tripping on the INT (which I believe he had a very good chance of running down) he was completely blanketed on his PI call. I thought Miller looked a little slow in and out of his breaks. Willson got wide open one time that I saw, but it was on the backside of the play as Wilson scrambled to his left. Kearse and Williams were all but invisible out there.
 

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Our WR corps will look different next year. Though I hate the thought of it, I am pretty sure both Tate and Rice will be gone. With Kearse and Harvin filling those holes, maybe we finally see some route running and separation? Color me an optimist.
 
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Part of the lack of separation was schematic. There were a lot of play action go routes, and San Fran was ready for them. However, Rice did not look sharp in his cuts, Miller could not get any space off Whitner, and outside of the one big play, Baldwin wasn't getting a ton of space either.

But lets not chalk this up as anything unusual, lets give credit instead. San Fran did a good job of adjusting to the officials, who let both teams play aggressive press. Also, and I don't know if it was the 2nd quarter hit he took from Brooks or just a lack of timing, but Wilson was just late on reads all night. The first pass to Willson was late, the end zone incompletions to Rice and Miller were just a bit late, and when you add to that the fact that San Fran was not hesitating on pass rush when Seattle ran play action, even with great separation it was not going to be a productive night for Seattle's receivers.
 

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I thought Wilson said in the offseason that most read option plays really are just play fakes, planned Lynch handoffs and make it look like RO. Anyone else remember this?
 
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12evanf":28lgwv36 said:
I thought Wilson said in the offseason that most read option plays really are just play fakes, planned Lynch handoffs and make it look like RO. Anyone else remember this?

That makes sense. When you see a pulling guard on read option, it is a handoff for sure.
 

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12evanf":az197d4y said:
I thought Wilson said in the offseason that most read option plays really are just play fakes, planned Lynch handoffs and make it look like RO. Anyone else remember this?

I do and exactly what I was going to say.
 

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Found the link
– Dan asked Wilson what he thinks when he hears defenses will figure him out. “That's probably talking about the read option,” Wilson said. “We don't really run it that much. It's more running Marshawn Lynch and making it look like we do.”
 

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Ahmad Brooks was going to take Wilson out on that play no matter what. The BR has reported that Pete filed a complaint with the league about the helmet to the chin hit.
http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/15/ahmad-brooks-leveled-russell-wilson-on-the-read-option/

It is pretty easy to see from the tape that this was a planned hit. Lynch had already run four yards and Brooks had a clear view to see that Russell did not have the ball. I was a little irritated that we never retaliated. At the very least w should have called a play that let Sweezy tee off on Brooks. I know Russell was just happy with the win but don't kid yourself, San Fran rattled him with this hit.
 

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I was still perplexed that Wilson didn't keep a few of those. Re-watching the game, he would have been WIDE open several times for huge gains if he would have held on to the ball. I mean...there was no defender in sight downfield. The 49ers were selling out to attack big time and didn't seem like they expected him to run it.
 

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Watch the film Greg. I'm betting this hit was in the back of his mind. Also probably the tomahawk he received on his running slide and the head slap from the sanfran trainer on the side line too.
 

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brimsalabim":2cm1ares said:
Watch the film Greg. I'm betting this hit was in the back of his mind. Also probably the tomahawk he received on his running slide and the head slap from the sanfran trainer on the side line too.

Yeah, I did watch it. And there were massive spaces to run if he kept it.

Wilson's not skittish... but that could be it.
 

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Everybody saw RGIII, right? I think Russell wants to keep all of his parts original... If it's obvious to him that he's going to be untouched to a sideline for the first down I think he keeps it. Otherwise #24 will get what he gets.
 
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FlyingGreg":xtejt9cn said:
I was still perplexed that Wilson didn't keep a few of those. Re-watching the game, he would have been WIDE open several times for huge gains if he would have held on to the ball. I mean...there was no defender in sight downfield. The 49ers were selling out to attack big time and didn't seem like they expected him to run it.

They were read option look, but no keeper was ever intended. Just an offensive look.

And yes Brimsalabim, it is clear Brooks was hitting Wilson no matter what. And yes, it's clear it affected him.
 

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Scottemojo":2563452f said:
FlyingGreg":2563452f said:
I was still perplexed that Wilson didn't keep a few of those. Re-watching the game, he would have been WIDE open several times for huge gains if he would have held on to the ball. I mean...there was no defender in sight downfield. The 49ers were selling out to attack big time and didn't seem like they expected him to run it.

They were read option look, but no keeper was ever intended. Just an offensive look.

And yes Brimsalabim, it is clear Brooks was hitting Wilson no matter what. And yes, it's clear it affected him.

Thanks. I'm sure they noticed after wathching the film that they had some huge gainers available there...might be something to watch as the season progresses if teams play the read-option the way the Niners did.

But yeah, there seems to be a concession to not getting our QB killed lol.
 

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