7-4! We Shall Finish...

[Siouxhawk]

Redskins aren't a bad football team. Lots of injuries kinda derailed their season but they have the ability to put up points. Kirk is about to get a monster contract somewhere this offseason (even if he shouldn't be). Surprisingly it was their defense who won the game for them though the Hawks offensive coaching staff should take a ton of blame for not adjusting until the fourth quarter. Striving for the deep ball all game against a defense conceding short passes is what lost it. Definitely an upset but let's not compare them to the Browns.

Again, Jags game will come down to limiting turnovers and selling out to stop the run. They ask NOTHING out of Bortles, at least Mariota can make some good throws. I'd be surprised if he throws anything longer than 10 yards against us and Fournette will probably get ~25 touches. It will definitely be a 13-10 ish game, whoever can win field position battle should probably come out on top. And I think Russ should have some success on deeper routes, their CBs are terrific but safeties can be beaten.

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

 

[johnnyfever]

Redskins aren't a bad football team. Lots of injuries kinda derailed their season but they have the ability to put up points. Kirk is about to get a monster contract somewhere this offseason (even if he shouldn't be). Surprisingly it was their defense who won the game for them though the Hawks offensive coaching staff should take a ton of blame for not adjusting until the fourth quarter. Striving for the deep ball all game against a defense conceding short passes is what lost it. Definitely an upset but let's not compare them to the Browns.

Again, Jags game will come down to limiting turnovers and selling out to stop the run. They ask NOTHING out of Bortles, at least Mariota can make some good throws. I'd be surprised if he throws anything longer than 10 yards against us and Fournette will probably get ~25 touches. It will definitely be a 13-10 ish game, whoever can win field position battle should probably come out on top. And I think Russ should have some success on deeper routes, their CBs are terrific but safeties can be beaten.

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

Why were we in the position to have to go for 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? I'm sure the playcalling, especially in the red zone was awesome right?

 

[Siouxhawk]

Redskins aren't a bad football team. Lots of injuries kinda derailed their season but they have the ability to put up points. Kirk is about to get a monster contract somewhere this offseason (even if he shouldn't be). Surprisingly it was their defense who won the game for them though the Hawks offensive coaching staff should take a ton of blame for not adjusting until the fourth quarter. Striving for the deep ball all game against a defense conceding short passes is what lost it. Definitely an upset but let's not compare them to the Browns.

Again, Jags game will come down to limiting turnovers and selling out to stop the run. They ask NOTHING out of Bortles, at least Mariota can make some good throws. I'd be surprised if he throws anything longer than 10 yards against us and Fournette will probably get ~25 touches. It will definitely be a 13-10 ish game, whoever can win field position battle should probably come out on top. And I think Russ should have some success on deeper routes, their CBs are terrific but safeties can be beaten.

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

Why were we in the position to have to go for 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? I'm sure the playcalling, especially in the red zone was awesome right?

It's a simple fact. We were in a position where the odds overwhelmingly favored us to score 12 points and we came away empty. As Soul says, upsets happen and that's the tangible circumstances that led to that one.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Walsh was brutal in that game. But, he's not the one who had a ridiculous amount of stupid penalties in the game. Or who gave up the lead in less than a minute after the Hawks took the lead. Win as a team, lose as a team. The D crapped the bed when it matters. They played great for 58 minutes, cool, but didn't finish, yet again.
If it wasn't for Russ carrying this team, we may be sitting at 3-8 right now. This team is capable of beating anyone, at any time.

 

[AROS]

FWIW, Total Access' Heath Evans has us losing to the Eagles and winning out to go 11-5.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I think that is a very possible scenario.

 

[AROS]

I agree. Could easily see that happen. Not saying it will, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Redskins aren't a bad football team. Lots of injuries kinda derailed their season but they have the ability to put up points. Kirk is about to get a monster contract somewhere this offseason (even if he shouldn't be). Surprisingly it was their defense who won the game for them though the Hawks offensive coaching staff should take a ton of blame for not adjusting until the fourth quarter. Striving for the deep ball all game against a defense conceding short passes is what lost it. Definitely an upset but let's not compare them to the Browns.

Again, Jags game will come down to limiting turnovers and selling out to stop the run. They ask NOTHING out of Bortles, at least Mariota can make some good throws. I'd be surprised if he throws anything longer than 10 yards against us and Fournette will probably get ~25 touches. It will definitely be a 13-10 ish game, whoever can win field position battle should probably come out on top. And I think Russ should have some success on deeper routes, their CBs are terrific but safeties can be beaten.

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

Why were we in the position to have to go for 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? I'm sure the playcalling, especially in the red zone was awesome right?

Why do you go straight to playcalling? Execution was a problem.

 

[Siouxhawk]

And penalties galore.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

The amount of good plays that have been called back is next level bad. Let alone the Defensive penalties. Many that look very ticky tack really.

 

[johnnyfever]

Redskins aren't a bad football team. Lots of injuries kinda derailed their season but they have the ability to put up points. Kirk is about to get a monster contract somewhere this offseason (even if he shouldn't be). Surprisingly it was their defense who won the game for them though the Hawks offensive coaching staff should take a ton of blame for not adjusting until the fourth quarter. Striving for the deep ball all game against a defense conceding short passes is what lost it. Definitely an upset but let's not compare them to the Browns.

Again, Jags game will come down to limiting turnovers and selling out to stop the run. They ask NOTHING out of Bortles, at least Mariota can make some good throws. I'd be surprised if he throws anything longer than 10 yards against us and Fournette will probably get ~25 touches. It will definitely be a 13-10 ish game, whoever can win field position battle should probably come out on top. And I think Russ should have some success on deeper routes, their CBs are terrific but safeties can be beaten.

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

Why were we in the position to have to go for 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? I'm sure the playcalling, especially in the red zone was awesome right?

Why do you go straight to playcalling? Execution was a problem.

Because we have a red zone problem, have for years. Are you saying Everytime we get to that end of the field that the playcalling is good? And if the execution is always bad, why aren't the coaches identifying why and structuring practice around correcting it?

I'm not saying it is 100% coaching, but that is most problematic portion of our issues there. Because of the short field position, this is where misdirection and forcing the matchups you want by personnel position make the biggest difference.

 

[johnnyfever]

Our goaline play is either going to be a fade to the corner or the play that lost us the Superbowl. Opposing teams only need to watch one game to know our offensive playcall for the last 4 years.

It's ridiculous, and why we don't have great success there

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Sure have lately with Graham. He can't be covered one on one. Doesn't seem that hard.

 

[semiahmoo]

Sure have lately with Graham. He can't be covered one on one. Doesn't seem that hard.

So many have been saying it for so long and finally halfway into this season they figure that out.

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[Siouxhawk]

Our goaline play is either going to be a fade to the corner or the play that lost us the Superbowl. Opposing teams only need to watch one game to know our offensive playcall for the last 4 years.

It's ridiculous, and why we don't have great success there

We outscore our opponents 70 percent of the time in the RW era, so I'd say our scoring is more than up to snuff.

 

[semiahmoo]

Our goaline play is either going to be a fade to the corner or the play that lost us the Superbowl. Opposing teams only need to watch one game to know our offensive playcall for the last 4 years.

It's ridiculous, and why we don't have great success there

We outscore our opponents 70 percent of the time in the RW era, so I'd say our scoring is more than up to snuff.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Offense put the team in position to score an additional 12 points against the Skins, but 3 makeable FGs were missed and Pete tried a gadget play that misfired. There's your game right there.

Why were we in the position to have to go for 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? I'm sure the playcalling, especially in the red zone was awesome right?

Why do you go straight to playcalling? Execution was a problem.

Because we have a red zone problem, have for years. Are you saying Everytime we get to that end of the field that the playcalling is good? And if the execution is always bad, why aren't the coaches identifying why and structuring practice around correcting it?

I'm not saying it is 100% coaching, but that is most problematic portion of our issues there. Because of the short field position, this is where misdirection and forcing the matchups you want by personnel position make the biggest difference.

I'm saying they're both a problem.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Just another example of a poster straying from the subject at hand. My point was that we beat Washington if we capitalize on our field position and kick our makeable field goals. Then it transitions to playcalling, which wasn't the focus of this thread. But it's typical for some people.

 

[johnnyfever]

Just another example of a poster straying from the subject at hand. My point was that we beat Washington if we capitalize on our field position and kick our makeable field goals. Then it transitions to playcalling, which wasn't the focus of this thread. But it's typical for some people.

And my point is you are purposefully ignoring the reasons that put us in that position or don't have the ability to identify the specific problems. This is something very typical for you, as shown daily in your posts.

And you are correct that it is typical for me to be specific, correct and factual in my observations. Can you point to how what I said was incorrect? Be specific, not just more of your " but we make the playoffs so that must be because of bevell" garbage that completely shows your lack of the ability to see anything but a simplified macro view.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Thanks Capt. Obvious. You think they're gonna' go 6-10 so....... :irishdrinkers:
The league is full of upsets, that Skins game was an upset, period.

Not much of an upset. Its was an average team beating another average team. Seahawks beating the Eagles would be an upset.