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Young’s height…..
5’10” and 1/8
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Smaller than Russ, Kyler, Brees or Purdy.
Brees, Purdy and yes young have 90th percentile scores on this test tho
Brees, Purdy and yes young have 90th percentile scores on this test tho
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That was a great read.. thank you
Just about everyone laughed/scoffed at the notion that he was 6'. His height and frame were always going to be the concern with him. He's one of those real kinesthetic types though, knows how to fall, how to avoid, how to self-protect...unlike Tua. He could end up holding up better than other larger QB's for this reason. I mean it's possible. It's the only noticeable gamble on him, but it is a pretty big one.
toffee
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So about the same height as Wilson but with smaller frame?
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He's worth the risk. Dude sees the whole field, and knows where his receivers are even when he can't see them.
Plus, he'll take the 5 yards in 1st down.
He played in the SEC and like mentioned above, he knows how to fall.
The tape says it all. The only player is choose over him because of size is CJ Stroud.
Plus, he'll take the 5 yards in 1st down.
He played in the SEC and like mentioned above, he knows how to fall.
The tape says it all. The only player is choose over him because of size is CJ Stroud.
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My first reaction is that I wonder what the difference in RCWs score and Drew Brees score is. Sean Payton is going to have to figure out how to get RCW to read and process information faster and more precisely if he's going to run Drew Brees plays....
I hope that test becomes more mainstream and results are more public. I'm really interested in how Seattle's backfield scored....
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Russell will never Take the test. It’s already obvious what his main problem is.
Guys like Purdy and Brees see all Their options and make quick decisions before A blink of an eye. Russ scrambles because He doesn’t see his options.
Guys like Purdy and Brees see all Their options and make quick decisions before A blink of an eye. Russ scrambles because He doesn’t see his options.
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How well does anyone think Russ would score?
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toffee
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So far, after 10 years, Wilson has not developed into a faster thinker or quick decision maker. Not sure how Payton could transform Wilson's football IQ and cognitive abilities. Wilson always default back to RussBall, either he is real arrogant, but he could also have learning issues, or both. In Seattle, he never or seldom enjoyed top 5 OL, but he always seemed to have problem processing all the confusions, to counter his OL and processing issues, he ran, often in circles.
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Agree on all counts. I think it means RCW can't run a Drew Brees offense. ...and that just adds more credence to RCW wanting Payton as a coach because (in his mind) the problem couldn't be his own ability...it must be coaching.
The article, and specifically the test, makes me wonder how much teams know about their players and abilities. It would be easy and useful to have current players take this test and adjust responsibilities with it as a data point. Seems like a Safety or LB could call Ds and adjustments depending on how well either processes information. Even blocking assignments could be addressed if there was one interior OL that shined at recognizing blitzes accurately. ...lots of opportunities.
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I see the comparison a lot but the only thing similar between RW and DB is height. DB would climb the pocket and made quick decisions. RW is allergic to climbing the pocket and drops his eyes.
Russ weighed the same as him at the combine. That skinny Russ was the better version.
In time Young will have time to add muscle to his frame to get to where Brees and Kyler were, but there's no way he's done it this fast. It was fat and water weight.
That's not a given. He didn't put the work in gym (while at Alabama) to fill his frame out. Yeah, he has had a lot of time off to do it for the combine, but then he didn't test or do QB drills with his new added weight. Not every player loves the gym, and he has shown that he does not have the want-to in the gym...which is fine for a naturally bigger guy like CJ Stroud. But Young's frame is frail and he needs the gym to routinely take the hits from defensive linemen.
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It's only possible to gain .5-2 lbs of muscle in a month. He's only 21 and his metabolism is likely insane. As he gets closer to his mid 20s, it'll be a lot easier to add good weight.
He'll have the best nutritionists and trainers. It's only a matter of time.
That's not a given. McShay says no other QB in the country took more punishment than Young. He's proven to not be made of glass like Tua (see Tua's college injury history). Even before he adds to his frame, he was taking late hits like this:
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toffee
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The team knew more than the fan, or they better knew more than us.
In the past few years, I slowly and reluctantly came to accept that Wilson had learning and processing issues, that's one of the reasons why I advocated for trading him. If a guy had learning and processing issues after 10 years on the job, the chance of his light bulb suddenly blink is not likely.
I would like to think that deep down, very deep down, Wilson knew his issues. Therefore he always emphasis on how much time he spent studying the film, but still, once the lime lights' were on, he default back to sand lot. Wilson was real lucky to have Angry and Lockett, two high IQ guys that can adjust on the fly to his sandlot stuff, they made him great. Without such high IQ WRs, well, see last season.
Payton might get better result in training his WR to be creative and follow Russ' sandlot stuff, Payton will have an easier them changing the WRs than Wilson.
I don't agree with McShay on the QB punishment. Kentucky and Florida had worse offensive lines and worse WRs than Alabama, and they are also SEC teams. So, Richardson and Levis were probably under more consistent pass rush pressure, but they have better athleticism to escape the pressure than Young.
So, you are now just making up stuff like you are his personal doctor and/or nutritionist.
I'm also a naturally skinny guy, and yes, I put on bad weight as I got older if I wasn't consistent in the gym. If I half ass it in the gym, I'm 180 lbs...if I grind in the gym and eat 5 times a day (healthy) I get to 210 lbs. Again, like a said, it's not a given. Expecting a small frame guy to get bigger (muscle mass) in a few years from not changing his routine is a crap shoot.
Actually, the only one here making stuff up is yourself, suggesting he never put the work in the gym, and that you've watched more tape on QBs than Todd McShay......
If you don't believe he'll be able to add more muscle as he enters his mid 20's with pro nutritionists and trainers, that's fine, I won't judge you.
