hawker84":2par1hco said:
See this stuff just amazes me.
Marvin49:
Wilson can be great but Kaep only "very good"? Based on what? Kaep took his team to the Super Bowl in his 10th freakin start. Is Wilson the only one who can improve. It seems like this conversation is always that somehow Wilson will continue to improve till he is the second coming of Jesus Christ (unless he is already that) and that Kaep is a pretender who will obviously decline (jeez, who doesn't know that?).
I think both guys have the potential to be the among the best in the NFL. I understand liking the QB who's on your team, but dude....Kaep has a chance to be INCREDIBLE.
this is the very point I try to make over on your board... and i get the exact same responses you got here... goes with the territory my man.. But please don't lump all Seahawk fans together...
i for one don't see any reason Kap won't improve next season, nor do i see any reason he won't be a top 10/5 QB in the league in the next couple years... Only time will tell on these two.. the only difference i see in the two at this point is Kap has pure talent and the attributes to succeed, where Wilson has these as well but also has the "IT" factor.... you can just sense greatness with him..
LOL. There you go again.
I was with you right up until that last line.
Seattle fans ALWAYS do that...and I will lump them together in this regard. Why does Wilson have "it" and Kaep does not? Kaep took his team to the Super Bowl in his 10th NFL start. Kaeps career QB rating through his FIRST 10 starts is nearly 100. He broke an NFL record in his first playoff start.
The guy has Terrell Suggs of all people, a notorious QB hater, singing his praises. He calls him "special" and that Kaep will play in "a few of these" in reference to the Super Bowl.
Don't believe me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj_9ackcS6k
PLEASE tell me what the "it" is that Wilson has that Kaep does not?
In his 1st start, he ripped the Chicago Bears a new one on Monday Night Football.
In his 5th career start he went into NE. In December. He threw FOUR TDs to beat the Patriots who hadn't lost there in that month in a decade.
In his 8th career start he started the game by throwing a pick 6 and then rebounding with one of the most impressive performances by a QB in playoff history (263 yards passing, 2 TDs, 181 yards rushing, 2 TDs). He accounted for 444 yards and FOUR TDs in his first playoff game...and again....8th NFL start.
He was down 17 to Atlanta and took the team all the way back for the win...in the NFCCG.
He was down 22 in the Super Bowl and almost pulled off the biggest comeback in SB history.
What the hell is the "it" that Kaep seems to be missing!?!
I understand what you mean about the "it" factor in terms of what it is. I agree with you that Wilson has it. Some guys just have "it" while others do not. What I object to is that fact that only the Pacific Northwest seems to think that Kaep does not. It's kinda comical.
IMO, it's because Kaep is 6'5", 240, has a huge arm and can run like the Wind. Wilson is 5'11", 210 lbs, has a good arm and can run. When those are the two guys dimensions, fans of that smaller guy tend to try to look elsewhere for the argument as to why he's better. Therefore, any intangable they use in regards to Wilson CAN'T be attributed to Kaep. Its the same reason people are critical that Kaep can "only run in a straight line". Its because Wilson is one of the most elusive QBs in the NFL. Its simply an attempt to draw a line in the sand and find something that Wilson is better at.
There is no need. I don't need to be convinced. I already think Wilson is a great young QB. I don't need to find holes in his game to diminish him in an attempt to make Kaep look better.