K9 a no show at ring ceremony

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I would have been happy paying him that, but I get why the team wasn't comfortable with it. Many have been burnt paying top dollar on second contracts for RBs, and when you have a lot of good players, you need to prioritize.
 

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How do you know it's over pay, how does anyone knows what was offered or discussed. In fact, I haven't heard of anytime that negotiations were being held with him.. I just don't recall hearing anything. I know I'VE READ that K9 wanted to stay and he doesn't seem to be the kind that would shout he wants to be the highest paid RB, in fact, it seems more reasonable to think that he would settle that could be mutually beneficial for both sides.

Fair.
What I do know (or believe) is that what KC paid is an over pay.
He got generational talent money, and imo he’s not that.
With the players we need to retain I’d have been pissed (disappointed) had we paid that.

Not putting K9 down, just saying I don’t believe he was worth that $ to our team at this point in time.

Again, time will tell who made the correct decision. Chiefs or Seahawks

You are correct in that we don’t know the details of what was offered vs requested.
I have to assume the request didn’t make sense for our front office, and so far the management has been making good decisions.
 

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You never want to lose a single piece of a team that just won the big one.

Not Kubiak…Bryant…Mafe…K9….Maybe Riq 🥳😂.

But seriously, it’s a business for real. I have no idea if K9 performs to the level that KC paid him. But, I and the rest of you do know that based off of the situation here (splitting carries) and past performance, there was no way JS was forking that out to him.

I mean, I had a glimmer of hope that we’d get him for $11–12M…$10M was a pipe dream.

To me, this is a scenario where both parties are right in the way they moved forward. Honestly can’t be mad at that.
 

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Fair.
What I do know (or believe) is that what KC paid is an over pay.
He got generational talent money, and imo he’s not that.
With the players we need to retain I’d have been pissed (disappointed) had we paid that.

Not putting K9 down, just saying I don’t believe he was worth that $ to our team at this point in time.

Again, time will tell who made the correct decision. Chiefs or Seahawks

You are correct in that we don’t know the details of what was offered vs requested.
I have to assume the request didn’t make sense for our front office, and so far the management has been making good decisions.
I doubt contract negotiations would make a player resentful
I doubt signing with a new team would make a player resentful
I'm pretty sure not ever being offered a contract and instead told to go find your own contract would make a player who wanted to stay very resentful.
 

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I doubt contract negotiations would make a player resentful
I doubt signing with a new team would make a player resentful
I'm pretty sure not ever being offered a contract and instead told to go find your own contract would make a player who wanted to stay very resentful.
You have nailed it,

To Schneider, K9 wasn't part of 'must-have', may not even be on 'nice to have'. The strategy probably was for K9 to test the market, come back with tail between legs. The team didn't want K9, not k9 quit on the team.

For the record, I advocated to trade K9 in last off season, so I am not posting as a K9 fan boy.
 

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You have nailed it,

To Schneider, K9 wasn't part of 'must-have', may not even be on 'nice to have'. The strategy probably was for K9 to test the market, come back with tail between legs. The team didn't want K9, not k9 quit on the team.

For the record, I advocated to trade K9 in last off season, so I am not posting as a K9 fan boy.
I"m actually glad we didn't.
 

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So when Price gains 1200 yards and has 35 receptions, everyone is going to say we made a mistake letting K9 go righjt :)
 

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I doubt contract negotiations would make a player resentful
I doubt signing with a new team would make a player resentful
I'm pretty sure not ever being offered a contract and instead told to go find your own contract would make a player who wanted to stay very resentful.

Do we know that’s how it went down?

Any links to the information?
 

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Do we know that’s how it went down?

Any links to the information?
My comment there is a pretty generalized comment, that could be of anyone

Nobody knows for sure except the parties involved.. what they say to the press and what actually happened may never be known..But, here's a link to several articles.

google this. did the seahawks ever offer ken walker a contract?
I like the story from the Tacoma news tribune.
 

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Fair.
What I do know (or believe) is that what KC paid is an over pay.
He got generational talent money, and imo he’s not that.
With the players we need to retain I’d have been pissed (disappointed) had we paid that.

Not putting K9 down, just saying I don’t believe he was worth that $ to our team at this point in time.

Again, time will tell who made the correct decision. Chiefs or Seahawks

You are correct in that we don’t know the details of what was offered vs requested.
I have to assume the request didn’t make sense for our front office, and so far the management has been making good decisions.

You consider 6th highest paid in the league at his position generational talent money? I think generational talent money is a term generally reserved for contracts that set a new benchmark for what players at that position get paid. I'm not saying it's not a lot, and I'm not saying the Seahawks should have signed him for that, but I don't think 6th highest paid at his position would generally be considered generational talent money by pretty much anyone.

We should also remember that the salary cap went up significantly once again and is now over $300 million. Just 5 years ago the cap was $182 million. Getting paid $14.3 mil in 2026 is a much lower percentage of the cap than it was in 2021. I get that paying a RB $14.3 mil a year seems crazy to a lot of fans, but as the cap keeps going up significantly higher and higher every year, so do player salaries.

I'd bet that the next guy up after K9, that's perceived as probably a top 10 RB (but probably not top 5) is going to do considerably better than $14.3 mil a year.
 

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You consider 6th highest paid in the league at his position generational talent money? I think generational talent money is a term generally reserved for contracts that set a new benchmark for what players at that position get paid. I'm not saying it's not a lot, and I'm not saying the Seahawks should have signed him for that, but I don't think 6th highest paid at his position would generally be considered generational talent money by pretty much anyone.

We should also remember that the salary cap went up significantly once again and is now over $300 million. Just 5 years ago the cap was $182 million. Getting paid $14.3 mil in 2026 is a much lower percentage of the cap than it was in 2021. I get that paying a RB $14.3 mil a year seems crazy to a lot of fans, but as the cap keeps going up significantly higher and higher every year, so do player salaries.

I'd bet that the next guy up after K9, that's perceived as probably a top 10 RB (but probably not top 5) is going to do considerably better than $14.3 mil a year.
Well you know who that will be right? probably the Atlanta guy.. Bjorn
 

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You consider 6th highest paid in the league at his position generational talent money? I think generational talent money is a term generally reserved for contracts that set a new benchmark for what players at that position get paid. I'm not saying it's not a lot, and I'm not saying the Seahawks should have signed him for that, but I don't think 6th highest paid at his position would generally be considered generational talent money by pretty much anyone.

We should also remember that the salary cap went up significantly once again and is now over $300 million. Just 5 years ago the cap was $182 million. Getting paid $14.3 mil in 2026 is a much lower percentage of the cap than it was in 2021. I get that paying a RB $14.3 mil a year seems crazy to a lot of fans, but as the cap keeps going up significantly higher and higher every year, so do player salaries.

I'd bet that the next guy up after K9, that's perceived as probably a top 10 RB (but probably not top 5) is going to do considerably better than $14.3 mil a year.
Generational money is money adequate to set up generations of your family to be taken care of. $10 million wisely managed is just enough to break into that category, but $20 million is safely generational. At $10, half can be taken in a divorce, leaving you scrambling.
 

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Generational money is money adequate to set up generations of your family to be taken care of. $10 million wisely managed is just enough to break into that category, but $20 million is safely generational. At $10, half can be taken in a divorce, leaving you scrambling.

I'm aware of what generational wealth means, but what was said is that he's being paid generational talent money. I took that to mean a player that is being paid as though they're a generational talent, and I don't believe K9 is being paid as though he's a generational talent.

There are a lot of players in the NFL that are making enough money to qualify as generational wealth. There are relatively few that are being paid as though they're a generational talent.
 

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