Who will have a better season, Hawks or Raiders?

toffee · Apr 14, 2025

These are PFF's rating on potential starters, we have more stars on defense. Offense are quite similar in player rankings. We finished 10-7, they were 4-13 (?). Which team will improve more this year?

Offense:
Both teams need IOL help, but they have more holes in WR and RB, which we are stacked in those areas.
Top players rated above 75:
Hawks: W9 (88.4), Cross (82.5), Darnold (80.7), JSN (81)
Raiders: Bower (85.1), Geno (82.7), Meyers (77.7), McCormick (76.1)
Seahawks:

Raiders:

Defense:
They have holes everywhere, badly need upgrades at CB, S and LB, Pete got his work cut out for him.
Seahawks: Big Cat (87.1), Love (81.2), Witherspoon (76.1)
Raiders: Roberts (79.7)

Raiders:

SoulfishHawk · Apr 14, 2025

Easy question. Hawks win 10 or 11. The Faiders MIGHT win 8.

Better season: Hawks
more improvement, since they only won 4 games, probably the Las Vegas Disrespectful Red Zone Picks

CouchLogic · Apr 14, 2025

Raiders are trash and Geno Smith isn't changing that. They won 4 games last year, if I'm on a team in that division...I forget they even exist. Non-factors.

Ostatehawk · Apr 14, 2025

Pete, Chip and Genoooooo are not going to magically turn that shit show around.

IndyHawk · Apr 14, 2025

Pete might squeeze 8 wins out of them, if GeNO stops his RZ picks.

CalgaryFan05 · Apr 14, 2025

Hawks. Hands down.

GemCity · Apr 14, 2025

Hawks but, PC will get them above .500

Rat · Apr 14, 2025

Around six or seven wins for each. Maybe a one game difference.

Sprfunk · Apr 14, 2025

We have them easy. They have murders row in that division. Broncoes should improve, Chiefs with Chief, refs may thief. Chargers are not an easy out. They may win 2 of those division games.
I expect they team will play hard for PC, and I expect them to do better here on out.

TheLegendOfBoom · Apr 14, 2025

Seattle is the superior team and Seattle’s strength of schedule is lower than the Raiders. Seattle will win at least 4 more games than the Raiders will.

NJlargent · Apr 14, 2025

Although the Raiders are pumped and jacked they stink. And we are better coached with better adjustments and will be a legit contender long before the Raiders ever are.

Atradees · Apr 15, 2025

Raiders paid Max Crosby a bazillion dollars. That's not how you build a winning roster. They still suck.

Grand Strand Hawk Fan · Apr 15, 2025

Atradees said:
Raiders paid Max Crosby a bazillion dollars. That's not how you build a winning roster. They still suck.

In all fairness, the Hawks were going to do that too if Raiders would've agreed to the original trade proposal.

bileever · Apr 15, 2025

Raiders in full rebuild mode. They have a terrible roster and play in a tough division. They'll be lucky to be 2-4 in their division. If we end up with a worse record than the Raiders, it won't be because the Raiders were successful, it will only be because the Seahawks had a complete collapse due to multiple injuries or something like that.

toffee · Apr 15, 2025

GemCity said:
Hawks but, PC will get them above .500

above .5? That would be playoff territory, wouldn't it?

94Smith · Apr 15, 2025

CouchLogic said:
Raiders are trash and Geno Smith isn't changing that. They won 4 games last year, if I'm on a team in that division...I forget they even exist. Non-factors.

Geno Smith is going to make a huge difference in W-L. Raiders Qb play last year was probably 32 overall. They were terrible. They are not going to make the playoffs but should be vastly improved

James in PA · Apr 15, 2025

Pete will get a couple extra wins out of that team. He'll will them to their ceiling, which is about 7-8 wins. We should be looking at 11+.

GemCity · Apr 15, 2025

toffee said:
above .5? That would be playoff territory, wouldn't it?

Like the 9-8 Seahawks

Chapow · Apr 15, 2025

toffee said:
above .5? That would be playoff territory, wouldn't it?

9-8 is unlikely to make the playoffs unless you win a really bad division. I very much doubt 9 wins will be good enough to win the AFC West.

We were 10-7 and didn't make the playoffs, although every other team with 10 or more wins did.

So 1 game above .500 is probably not playoff territory. Any better than that probably is, but maybe not.

That said, going from 4 wins to 10 wins is going to be very difficult and seems awfully unlikely to me for that Raiders team.

toffee · Apr 15, 2025

GemCity said:
Like the 9-8 Seahawks

wow, the Raider Nation will love Pete as 'savior'.

Who will have a better season, Hawks or Raiders?

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