Most polarizing Hawks player of all time?

chris98251 said:

Bozworth and it isn't even close. First he was a supplemental draft pick, second he had so much bravado it was WWF level at the time, when talking smack in the media was not something players did, he sold T Shirts at the Bronco game to insight the fans there, he would target players on the opposition and call them out. Then he was trucked by Bo Jackson on MNF. Fand loved and hated him on a new level for all these things and more like his salary as well.

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But was he polarizing to the fans. I loved that he made the t shirts. I loved that he called Elway horse face.

As for the "trucking" every player who has ever played the game who took a bad angle has been knocked over.

That was another example of Media manipulation because they hated the Boz.

Actually there was a very strong consensus on Wilson being the guy for about eight years. The first year was polarizing and then again onwards from the last year.

pmedic920 said:

We are dealing with an entirely different fan base now vs when SA was around.

Yea I get it, we’re all Seahawk fans and that makes us the same fan base, but I call BS.

You only need to look at how our current “fan base” talks about Tyler Lockett to understand what I mean.

I say this pole is invalid and needs to be broken up by decade or generation.
People simply didn’t speak back in the day as they do now.

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I agree...probably because to me it's Brian Bosworth and it's not even close.

Rainger said:

But was he polarizing to the fans. I loved that he made the t shirts. I loved that he called Elway horse face.

As for the "trucking" every player who has ever played the game who took a bad angle has been knocked over.

That was another example of Media manipulation because they hated the Boz.

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It's Bosworth and it's not even close.

Pandion Haliaetus said:

Boz 80s (Perhaps the first Seahawks player whose celebrity kind of undermined the culture at the time. He wasn’t a bad player per se but you’d have to wonder if he could have gotten more out of his career if he was 100% about football especially off the field)
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Hutchison 00’s (Poison Pill hurt for a long, long while especially since LG has never really been consistently replaced since his departure until maybe now in Damien Lewis who is starting his 3rd campaign there and that is if he re-signs. I’m not fact checking but it would not surprise me if Lewis was able to earn the most LG starts since Hutch during this up-coming season, knock on wood. In the end I really can’t fault Hutch for wanting to be closer to home, even though the way he did it sucked, but in the last couple of years he’s making amends by doing quality work for the Seahawks as a consultant)
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Boz: IMO his body and frame was going to fail him no matter what. 6'2" and 250 lbs with a shoe size of men's 9? There's something wrong with this picture. It suggests someone carrying way more weight than his skeletal structure can support while taking NFL-level hits. You can bulk up a skinny greyhound and put him in a fight with a muscular pit bull, but the result will be a greyhound with broken bones and ripped ligaments and tendons. So it was with Bosworth and it was his shoulder that failed first. Team Doctor Pierce E. Scranton Jr. explained that, "Brian was a twenty-five-year-old with the shoulders of a sixty-year-old. He flunked my physical." In 1993 Bosworth prevailed in a $7M lawsuit against Lloyd's of London.[14] Lloyd's position was that Bosworth's shoulder was injured as a result of degenerative arthritis which was not covered in his policy. Bosworth maintained his injury was sustained during a single hit.

Steve Hutchinson: Good call! Had forgotten about the whole poison pill contract BS and franchise/transition tag crap he and his agent pulled.

Seahawks legend Terrell Owens, TO BABY! Not a lot of people can match Ocho Cinco, dude was legit bonkers, haha. Rodman and Rocker levels of weird.

Seriously, Boz though.

I’d agree with Boz but, Marshawn definitely turned it on at times.

Agreed about Bosworth. Tons of hype that was almost impossible for anyone to live up to. MNF played up Bo Jackson 'running over' Bosworth when it was nothing but a routine tackle with the momentum and angle favoring the runner. He was a decent LB whose career ended early due to injury, likely due to overuse of 'roids.

RW3 didn't really become polarizing until after he was traded. But if you were to change the subject to players that went from darling to villain, RW3 would take it hands down.

olyfan63 said:

Boz: IMO his body and frame was going to fail him no matter what. 6'2" and 250 lbs with a shoe size of men's 9? There's something wrong with this picture. It suggests someone carrying way more weight than his skeletal structure can support while taking NFL-level hits. You can bulk up a skinny greyhound and put him in a fight with a muscular pit bull, but the result will be a greyhound with broken bones and ripped ligaments and tendons. So it was with Bosworth and it was his shoulder that failed first. Team Doctor Pierce E. Scranton Jr. explained that, "Brian was a twenty-five-year-old with the shoulders of a sixty-year-old. He flunked my physical." In 1993 Bosworth prevailed in a $7M lawsuit against Lloyd's of London.[14] Lloyd's position was that Bosworth's shoulder was injured as a result of degenerative arthritis which was not covered in his policy. Bosworth maintained his injury was sustained during a single hit.

Steve Hutchinson: Good call! Had forgotten about the whole poison pill contract BS and franchise/transition tag crap he and his agent pulled.

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Hutch, Boz, Wilson….

It’s why I think the pole needs to be by decade or generation.

Many of the folks that are picking Wilson don’t even know the history that far back.

And no, I’m not pointing fingers at anyone. It’s just with today’s internet and cancel culture we are living in a different world nowadays. Wilson is (unfairly) the easy pick for many IMHO.

I recall Hasselbeck sure had plenty of shade thrown at him by fans. Might be a bit far back for many, but I recall it.

Rainger said:

But was he polarizing to the fans. I loved that he made the t shirts. I loved that he called Elway horse face.

As for the "trucking" every player who has ever played the game who took a bad angle has been knocked over.

That was another example of Media manipulation because they hated the Boz.

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Boz was most definitely polarizing to a lot of fans, especially older ones who didn't like the bravado, the mohawk, the slick glasses, the book coming out before he even played a down here, and his mouth.

So yeah, very polarizing.

I'd put Sherman as the next one, for a lot of the same reasons. Too much mouth.

Lynch also rubbed a lot of fans and media the wrong way.

pmedic920 said:

Hutch, Boz, Wilson….

It’s why I think the pole needs to be by decade or generation.

Many of the folks that are picking Wilson don’t even know the history that far back.

And no, I’m not pointing fingers at anyone. It’s just with today’s internet and cancel culture we are living in a different world nowadays. Wilson is (unfairly) the easy pick for many IMHO.

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Boz might have been a little polarizing due to what Sarge said, ie the hairdo, arriving at practice via helicopter, his show boating, etc. But for the most part, fans loved him until he had to retire prematurely due to his 'roids compromised shoulder after which fans realized that he had a guaranteed contract and was fleecing us, some suspecting that he knew all along that he wouldn't be able to play long, hence his insistence on the guarantee. It was only then when the knives started coming out.

Hutch definitely wasn't polarizing while he was here and only becoming controversial after the poison pill stunt and his departure to the Vikings.

Russell might be the easy pick, but he's the correct one. He was polarizing at least a year before he was traded. I've been a Seahawk fan from the get-go so you can't accuse me of not knowing our history, and I've never seen a Hawk player create a division amongst the 12's the way Russell did, at least not while they were on the team.

Unfortunately by the mods moving the thread to the NFL nation it us no longer a poll.

Rainger said:

Unfortunately by the mods moving the thread to the NFL nation it us no longer a poll.

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Not sure how or why, I’m looking into it.

pmedic920 said:

Not sure how or why, I’m looking into it.

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Yea the RULES don't work.

According to the rules if I wanted to have a poll who was the best Hawks running back I couldn't because they are ex players and you can only talk about ex players under nfl nation.

And you can't have polls in Nfl nation.

Either need to change the rules and not be so strict in the main forum about past Hawks or add a poll feature to nfl nation.

Rainger said:

Yea the RULES don't work.

According to the rules if I wanted to have a poll who was the best Hawks running back I couldn't because they are ex players and you can only talk about ex players under nfl nation.

And you can't have polls in Nfl nation.

Either need to change the rules and not be so strict in the main forum about past Hawks or add a poll feature to nfl nation.

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The rules do work, and in an instance that there is a grey area we have a process to get things worked out.

We decided a long time ago that the typical RW threads belong in the NFL forum because he no longer is a Seahawk.

Discussion of the most polarizing Seahawk ever is a topic that typically could be on the main page but…..

I didn’t read/see your poll.
It appears that as you worded it, it was just another bla bla Wilson topic, and it was moved here for that reason.

You decide where you want it, we can move it back and you can create another (appropriate) poll, we can move it back and allow the conversation as is, or we can just leave it here.

Should you desire further dialogue on the issue please feel free to use the PM feature.

pmedic920 said:

The rules do work, and in an instance that there is a grey area we have a process to get things worked out.

We decided a long time ago that the typical RW threads belong in the NFL forum because he no longer is a Seahawk.

Discussion of the most polarizing Seahawk ever is a topic that typically could be on the main page but…..

I didn’t read/see your poll.
It appears that as you worded it, it was just another bla bla Wilson topic, and it was moved here for that reason.

You decide where you want it, we can move it back and you can create another (appropriate) poll, we can move it back and allow the conversation as is, or we can just leave it here.

Should you desire further dialogue on the issue please feel free to use the PM feature.

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Ty naw I will let it go.

Pmedic not using Mudflaps again and driving threads off the road.

1. Russ - pokarized around - 'was it Russ, or Pete?'

1a. Russ

1b. Russ - by virtue of the fact that he's also the most polarizing in Denver now as well.


2. Shawn Alexander - 'was it SA or the O line?'

3. I can't think of anyone that comes close to those two. I mean Boz was controversial. Hutch as well for the way he left. Kreig? Sure, but his flaws were undeniable. Russ and Shawn? One camp feels they deserve HOF recognition, the other that they overstayed their welcome.

No two players split the fanbase more than Russ and S Alexander in my opinion.

Rainger said:

Is your reply an indictment on how society has changed? And not for the better?

I didn't think Lockett was in any way polarizing.

A decade by decade poll would be too confusing and wide spread and how would that make a comparison between the 80's and today? Some will say the BOZ, however I don't think he was that polarizing.

Who has been the topic of more polarizing conversation debating a Hawks player here and on KIRO and in Seattle media in general than RW? I would suggest it isn't just Hawk fans.

I don't think the conversation is BS, go to every thread about Geno, or SBs or records, or coaches, or statistics, or running game, or deep ball, or pocket, or scrambling, or post season play, or offensive line, or OC's, or PC, or FO, or even Jody and Russ is in the discussion from one side or the other. That is polarizing!

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I guess it could be an indictment.
Nobody can argue however that we have changed along with our ability to spread/propagate our opinions.
Not only that but a player being polarizing borders on our current “cancel culture”.

I guess my stance is that RW may be the most polarizing but if so it has more to do with technology and how our society has changed than it does RW himself.

I remember Boz being very polarizing but people didn’t have the ability to spread their opinions like we have now.