Eagles Sign Woolen

[HawkRiderFan]

Seems the Seahawks are pretty good at letting corners go at the right time…let’s not forget he could have, and almost did, lose us the NFC Championship game

Rams were probably forced to punt back to us (I can't see McVey going for it on 4th and 12) with the Hawks having a 2 score lead and just drove the length of the field on the last drive. Hard to say how things work out but without that penalty there's a positively Hawks win that game without a dramatic end

 

[LeveeBreak]

They let him walk so their evaluation of him is clearly not that he is above average even with his mental lapses and stupid penalties.

His skills being average or even better is something JS/MM likely agree on. He played a lot in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He’s got skills, don’t misrepresent facts. That’s what the poster meant.

They didn’t resign him because of behavior and cost, not skills. Your take doesn’t track reality.

 

[James in PA]

It was all the name change, I'm telling you.

 

[jammerhawk]

He got too big for his football pants.

Too bad, but I suspect he won’t change. Money changes those who have weak minds or believe they are better than they are , or refuse to acknowledge excellence is a pursuit.

Tariq was a talent, Riq just did reek. There were many positive moments, but really he wasn’t a long term high value keeper.

 

[JayhawkMike]

He showed flashes of brilliance, but when you look at the whole package...

Almost sounds like insta-bust Rashad Penny.

 

[Cyrus12]

Very very very happy for him...bye reek

 

[TwistedHusky]

Without him, we don't make the SB.

But he is gone. It is what it is.
Disappointing. Would rather have Riq than Shaheed but the decision was made and I hope we can trust JS on this.

Really annoyed we probably could have kept him, since he signed for only 1 year.
It looks like the Rams got better and we seem to have gotten worse. Not massively, but we were already separated from each other by the thinnest of margins.

Hoping we found a CB we think we can get in the draft.
Not sold on Jobe AT ALL and frankly, while Spoon is a fantastic tackler/bltizer - his coverage isn't consistently solid.
I don't expect another SB, but I would like to stick it to the Rams at least - looks like that might be tougher now.

 

[HomerJHawk]

Riq Woolen leaving Seahawks could send him to a nightmare scenario

Free agent cornerback Riq Woolen has unsurprisingly left the Seattle Seahawks. His new spot could be the end of his career.

12thmanrising.com

 

[Appyhawk]

I knew Riq was done as a Seahawk the second he pulled his bonehead move vs the Rams, and then argued about it with his teammates. That was call for an instant notice that read "you're FIRED". We will do as well with whoever we get to take his place, although I have very little confidence in the talent level of this draft, especially where we are picking.

 

[Natethegreat]

His skills being average or even better is something JS/MM likely agree on. He played a lot in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He’s got skills, don’t misrepresent facts. That’s what the poster meant.

They didn’t resign him because of behavior and cost, not skills. Your take doesn’t track reality.

Your comprehension skills may be lacking here. I didn't say he has no skills. Toffee made the inference that even with his mental lapses and penalties he was still an above average CB.

IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THE F.O. DID NOT THINK SO.

A viewpoint I agree with.
If they felt that he was above average even with his stupidity and mental lapses they would have signed him to a long term deal so they could keep his services.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Your comprehension skills may be lacking here. I didn't say he has no skills. Toffee made the inference that even with his mental lapses and penalties he was still an above average CB.

IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THE F.O. DID NOT THINK SO.

A viewpoint I agree with.
If they felt that he was above average even with his stupidity and mental lapses they would have signed him to a long term deal so they could keep his services.

Completely wrong take. Pathetic!

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Your comprehension skills may be lacking here. I didn't say he has no skills. Toffee made the inference that even with his mental lapses and penalties he was still an above average CB.

IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THE F.O. DID NOT THINK SO.

A viewpoint I agree with.
If they felt that he was above average even with his stupidity and mental lapses they would have signed him to a long term deal so they could keep his services.

It's possible for him to be an above average CB and still not be worth what he wanted.

I won't miss him, personally.

 

[Natethegreat]

Completely wrong take. Pathetic!

Explain why Mike Mcdonald benched him twice in the last 2 years and why he lost his starting job to Jobe and then after the season they passed on resigning him then. If they thought that REEK was above average they would have kept him. Its not complicated. The total package of Woolen isn't above average.
Giving up long TD's on blown coverages isn't something you want from your CB.

 

[Chukarhawk]

Mike didn't want him back, not a coach Mike guy at all. Glad this arseling is gone.

 

[LeveeBreak]

Explain why Mike Mcdonald benched him twice in the last 2 years and why he lost his starting job to Jobe and then after the season they passed on resigning him then. If they thought that REEK was above average they would have kept him. Its not complicated. The total package of Woolen isn't above average.
Giving up long TD's on blown coverages isn't something you want from your CB.

Your mixing logic and it doesn’t compute. Every corner gets burned…what’s the data say. It says he’s a better than avg corner.

I’ve already stated why I think he’s gone and support the move. His behavior and cost are why he’s not on the team.

I also know he’s average or better. I am confident MM thinks the same about his skills. There are currently ~6-10 corners on each team. That’s ~180ish CB’s in the NFL…yes, Riq is in the top 90 and probably top 50.

Those opinions are not mutually exclusive.

The assertion is a bogus take. Processing that might be challenging for some, but it is what it is.

 

[Natethegreat]

Your mixing logic and it doesn’t compute. Every corner gets burned…what’s the data say. It says he’s a better than avg corner.

I’ve already stated why I think he’s gone and support the move. His behavior and cost are why he’s not on the team.

I also know he’s average or better. I am confident MM thinks the same about his skills. There are currently ~6-10 corners on each team. That’s ~180ish CB’s in the NFL…yes, Riq is in the top 90 and probably top 50.

Those opinions are not mutually exclusive.

The assertion is a bogus take. Processing that might be challenging for some, but it is what it is.

So you just said exactly my point. The total package is why he isn't on the team any more. I agree, Woolen isnt worth it. So does JS and Mike.
You can argue he has above average skills all day but overall package gets him benched and shipped off elsewhere.

 

[LeveeBreak]

So you just said exactly my point. The total package is why he isn't on the team any more. I agree, Woolen isnt worth it. So does JS and Mike.
You can argue he has above average skills all day but overall package gets him benched and shipped off elsewhere.

Incorrect again. On a roll today. Can’t teach logic to closed minds.

Cheers.

 

[Natethegreat]

Incorrect again. On a roll today. Can’t teach logic to closed minds.

Cheers.

What exactly is incorrect? That he got benched? Lost his starting job? That Mike and JS clearly didn't want him back? If he is so darn above average then it must be that they don't like the other things that come along with Woolen. Seems like a logical inference could be made that they must not think he is worth it even with all that above average skill he has.

 

[TwistedHusky]

You would think he cost us the game, when in reality the REAL screwup was on the coaches for making the boneheaded decision that led to that TD.

But he did lose his composure. Fair enough. Just annoying people want to point out the mistake while diminishing the key role he played in getting us there in the first place.

Speaking of coaches, one of our asst coaches almost beat the sh*t out of a Rams' coach in the team elevator (during our previous game against the Rams in Seattle). Would you have wanted him released too?

The Rams are colossal dickmonkeys. From the head coach on down. We have no idea what they were saying - but we KNOW they were taunting. Just not getting flags called on them.
(Interestingly, the refs threw the flag after Riq had turned and walked away.)

Some of you act like he lost us the game. He didn't. He even later made plays to help save that game. But whatever, he's gone. Now we just have a giant hole at corner to fill.

 

[glenwo2]

You would think he cost us the game, when in reality the REAL screwup was on the coaches for making the boneheaded decision that led to that TD.

I distinctly remember the defense (with Woolen ironically) getting a 3-and-out at that point.

That was basically game over with us up by 11.

Instead, we ended up having to hold on for dear life because of Woolen's jackass'ery.

Coaches make mistakes but in that scenario, the biggest mistake was Woolen.

He deserves ZERO excuses or benefits-of-the-doubt here.