Sorry, Not Sorry.

[sutz]

We paid $17M for a 21 yard receiver. We are absolutely guilty of overspending. He will never come close to earning his salary, and by drastically overpaying Shaheed we just increased JSN's asking price by $10M per year. Overpaying Shaheed could very well cause us to lose JSN, and JSN could break both legs and still pick up more yards than Shaheed

Just curious, are you trying to convince us or yourself?

 

[bileever]

What I think is that the coaching staff values Shaheed more than we expected. They must have feel good about his potential and have plans for his future.

He absolutely was a game changer this year, and that kind of speed puts fear into opposing teams. If he can replicate last season, he'll earn his salary.

Like most of you, I thought K9 had a better chance of returning, even at $15 million a year than Shaheed at $17 million.

 

[Runscott]

I feel the Shaheed signing leaves Bobo out.

Bobo has always been out, but always finds his way back in. More Bobo please.

 

[Ostatehawk]

We paid $17M for a 21 yard receiver. We are absolutely guilty of overspending. He will never come close to earning his salary, and by drastically overpaying Shaheed we just increased JSN's asking price by $10M per year. Overpaying Shaheed could very well cause us to lose JSN, and JSN could break both legs and still pick up more yards than Shaheed

I find your lack of football knowledge disturbing.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

I find your lack of football knowledge disturbing.

I am so torn. I don't know whether to respond to this with the "like" or "laughing" emoji, because I equal parts liked it and also laughed

 

[Bobblehead]

I feel the Shaheed signing leaves Bobo out.

He can call himself a TE and we'll sign him.

 

[CPHawk]

I feel the Shaheed signing leaves Bobo out.

We can find another bobo as a UDFA. Someone willing to go balls to the wall on special teams. And make 8 catches for the year. You don’t pay someone like that more that the minimum. If he can get more than that, great for him.

 

[Pickly]

Remember how so many of us bitched about Walkers dancing at the LOS where he’d end up taking a either a loss or maybe a 1 yard gain instead if hitting the hole and taking what’s in front of him? Remember when so many of us complained about how injury prone he was and that he’s just a home run threat who can’t be an every down back because of how brittle he is? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Thankful for what he did but it’s not like we are losing prime Marshawn or CMC here where the offense literally revolves around that one player.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they are eying someone early in the draft because I’m shocked the didn’t get one of the top guys in FA given how run heavy this offense is.

 

[chris98251]

Shaheed takes the defense back 5 yds stepping on the field, takes pressure off JSN as far as cheating over to him, he needs to get better at separation and Darnold syncing up with his speed on routes but offseason should fix that., people look at pure stats, things Shaheed does in the offense are not on a Stat sheet. Why you need to actually watch the games ansd understand what he creates and the difference his presence makes.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

JSN, Shaheed, Kupp, and Horton is just an unfair amount of talent at receiver, and we have the horses on the O-line now to make sure Darnold has time to get the ball to them. Bit of an overpay? Maybe. But the potential is salivation-worthy.

 

[TOPHawk]

I want to see the structure of the contact before judgement. Shaheed really only has 2-3 routes and they all were deep. Fly, post, corner…easy for someone with speed. I want to see what spending a full year with Kupp, and coaches, can do to mature that talent. Route running is 100% the difference in the NFL. That said, if he can flip the field on special teams several times during the season, it’s enough.

 

[chris98251]

I want to see the structure of the contact before judgement. Shaheed really only has 2-3 routes and they all were deep. Fly, post, corner…easy for someone with speed. I want to see what spending a full year with Kupp, and coaches, can do to mature that talent. Route running is 100% the difference in the NFL. That said, if he can flip the field on special teams several times during the season, it’s enough.

Hmmm Randy Moss didn't run a lot of different routes, Cliff Branch who I see him more like didn't either, he is not a slot or short strider type, if they can teach him a chop step to break it to the sidelines it would open up a lot of his deep routes however. DB's could not turn and go with him.

 

[Maelstrom787]

It's one of those signings that feels dumb on paper, but you know if you watched that it isn't.

You gotta bet on game changers, and he changed a lot of games for us last year.

A full off-season here should have him more involved as a receiver going forward.

 

[glenwo2]

It's one of those signings that feels dumb on paper, but you know if you watched that it isn't.

You gotta bet on game changers, and he changed a lot of games for us last year.

A full off-season here should have him more involved as a receiver going forward.

I 100% DISAGREE.

It's not dumb on paper whatsoever.

It was either going to be us re-signing Walker or re-signing Shaheed.

And Walker made our choice for us when he signed with the Chiefs.

Also, I can't help but wonder if the inability to re-sign Coby Bryant freed up a bit more money to be able to go slightly higher to ensure Shaheed re-signed?

 

[Maelstrom787]

I 100% DISAGREE.

It's not dumb on paper whatsoever.

It was either going to be us re-signing Walker or re-signing Shaheed.

And Walker made our choice for us when he signed with the Chiefs.

Also, I can't help but wonder if the inability to re-sign Coby Bryant freed up a bit more money to be able to go slightly higher to ensure Shaheed re-signed?

I just mean from the standpoint of handing a large extension to someone who has so much of their value come from a special teams explosion. Most of us wouldn't think it makes sense if we were looking at another team making that deal, but for us, I think it makes all the sense in the world.

 

[glenwo2]

I just mean from the standpoint of handing a large extension to someone who has so much of their value come from a special teams explosion. Most of us wouldn't think it makes sense if we were looking at another team making that deal, but for us, I think it makes all the sense in the world.

Because he's not being re-signed just to be a Wide Receiver.

He's being re-signed to be a Kick Returner.

He's being re-signed to be a Punt Returner.

He's being re-signed to assist in the Running Game which he has been effective in.


I think all of those aspects combined is what makes this deal make far more sense than if it was only to use him as a WR.

 

[JPatera76]

Because he's not being re-signed just to be a Wide Receiver.

He's being re-signed to be a Kick Returner.

He's being re-signed to be a Punt Returner.

He's being re-signed to assist in the Running Game which has been effective in.


I think all of those aspects combined is what makes this deal make far more sense than if it was only to use him as a WR.

It’s like someone else said in a thread, the closest comparison is CMC. His role is so unique with this team it’s worth it. Outsiders looking in won’t get it but that’s fine

 

[Nerter]

Because he's not being re-signed just to be a Wide Receiver.

He's being re-signed to be a Kick Returner.

He's being re-signed to be a Punt Returner.

He's being re-signed to assist in the Running Game which has been effective in.


I think all of those aspects combined is what makes this deal make far more sense than if it was only to use him as a WR.

Ya, but he only had 21 yds/gm...

 

[Germanhawk7]

Am I the only one who thinks we should chill with the JSN contract extension?

The only one who could influence JSN's contract next year is Puka, that's it. Why would they extend JSN's contract specifically after this breakout year? Let him have another year like that, then we can be sure, and the price wont go any higher. I dont want to give JSN 40+ a year right now.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It's one of those signings that feels dumb on paper, but you know if you watched that it isn't.

You gotta bet on game changers, and he changed a lot of games for us last year.

A full off-season here should have him more involved as a receiver going forward.

Well said. Seems like a good chunk, but the guy is a flat-out game changer. He's also a field position shifter. And a full off season with Sam and the new OC can only help.