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Welp...Sam Darnold was right.

When the game ended in SC Sam told Brock "See you in a few weeks".

Honestly, I'm a BIT more positive about the Niners ability to win the game (even though I can't put my finger on why), but I do still think Seattle takes this one.

At some point, the smoke and mirrors Shanahan and Saleh are using has to be exposed. Just WAY, WAY, too many injuries. Young players have really come through for them and did again in Philly (Stout, Collins, Sigle, Green).

Seahawks run a real offense though. LOL.

I thought Niners would lose in Philly and all I wanted was to get out of there with no injuries that would linger to next year. Yes they won, but losing George for what might be entirely of next year hurts.

Anyway...as I've said for weeks...Niners playing with House Money right now. Its all gravy. Lets hope we can get out of this without any injuries.

See ya Saturday, win or lose.
 
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How do you feel about Robinson and Tonges? Is Pearsall going to play?
 
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How do you feel about Robinson and Tonges? Is Pearsall going to play?
I feel like Shanahan and Saleh are holding this together with barbed wire and bubble gum.

I like Robinson...as a 4th WR. I like Tonges...as a 2nd or 3rd TE.

Pearsall. I have no clue. I thought he'd be back vs the Eagles. That knee injury is lingering. What sucks is he hurt the knee and was out several weeks, and then on 1st play in his 1st game back, got dropped with a hip drop tackle that wasn't called in game, but defender was fined. So at that point is was both the knee and ankle.

Vs Bears, he made a great play and then got crushed into the ground, right on that knee.

So...long way to repeat, I really have no idea.
 
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I think Saleh deserves a lot of credit for holding the Eagles to 19 points and the Seahawks to 13 points after we thought that 49ers defense was cooked after giving up 38 points to the Bears.

What more does Saleh have up his sleeve, with no pass rush, and a depleted linebacker corps? Against all odds, Eric Kendricks seems to be a revived player. I think the 49ers are better off with a fresh Kendricks than they were with Tatum Bethune. This is potentially a better defense than the one the Seahawks faced two weeks ago now that Kendricks has played a full game, although they will still be without Dee Winters, I think.
 
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I think Saleh deserves a lot of credit for holding the Eagles to 19 points and the Seahawks to 13 points after we thought that 49ers defense was cooked after giving up 38 points to the Bears.

What more does Saleh have up his sleeve, with no pass rush, and a depleted linebacker corps? Against all odds, Eric Kendricks seems to be a revived player. I think the 49ers are better off with a fresh Kendricks than they were with Tatum Bethune. This is potentially a better defense than the one the Seahawks faced two weeks ago now that Kendricks has played a full game, although they will still be without Dee Winters, I think.
I think you are correct RE Hendricks.

...but there is a very small chance Fred Warner plays. I think NFCCG is more likely if they can somehow pull a win this week, but something to keep an eye on.
 

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Hendricks was all over the field. And made the game winning play. Well, crappy throw, but was in the right place.
 

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I think you are correct RE Hendricks.

...but there is a very small chance Fred Warner plays. I think NFCCG is more likely if they can somehow pull a win this week, but something to keep an eye on.
Yeah, Kendricks started for the Cowboys all last season, and he's only 33. (Bobby Wagner is 35.) The 49ers were smart to pick him up late in the season.
 

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Yeah Kendricks had a good day. Warner is like .00000001% chance he will play this weekend.
 

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Welp...Sam Darnold was right.

When the game ended in SC Sam told Brock "See you in a few weeks".

Honestly, I'm a BIT more positive about the Niners ability to win the game (even though I can't put my finger on why), but I do still think Seattle takes this one.

At some point, the smoke and mirrors Shanahan and Saleh are using has to be exposed. Just WAY, WAY, too many injuries. Young players have really come through for them and did again in Philly (Stout, Collins, Sigle, Green).

Seahawks run a real offense though. LOL.

I thought Niners would lose in Philly and all I wanted was to get out of there with no injuries that would linger to next year. Yes they won, but losing George for what might be entirely of next year hurts.

Anyway...as I've said for weeks...Niners playing with House Money right now. Its all gravy. Lets hope we can get out of this without any injuries.

See ya Saturday, win or lose.

If it's any consolation to you, Marvin: I was rooting for you to beat Philly.

But now, back to NO.

In My Opinion: Shanny is an awesome coach. One of the best. Except.

But: and this is important. The Niners have entitlement all over them. Like a disease. I can look at the Niners team and say oh yeah this is a great team, but. There is always a "reason" why they are almost.

For years. Like how long can you have a "reason" why you are not great?
 

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If it's any consolation to you, Marvin: I was rooting for you to beat Philly.

But now, back to NO.

In My Opinion: Shanny is an awesome coach. One of the best. Except.

But: and this is important. The Niners have entitlement all over them. Like a disease. I can look at the Niners team and say oh yeah this is a great team, but. There is always a "reason" why they are almost.

For years. Like how long can you have a "reason" why you are not great?
For as long as Shanny is calling plays in Super Bowls. Thats how long.
 
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I think Saleh deserves a lot of credit for holding the Eagles to 19 points and the Seahawks to 13 points after we thought that 49ers defense was cooked after giving up 38 points to the Bears.

What more does Saleh have up his sleeve, with no pass rush, and a depleted linebacker corps? Against all odds, Eric Kendricks seems to be a revived player. I think the 49ers are better off with a fresh Kendricks than they were with Tatum Bethune. This is potentially a better defense than the one the Seahawks faced two weeks ago now that Kendricks has played a full game, although they will still be without Dee Winters, I think.
I agree that Saleh deserves credit for making what he has out of a very depleted defensive corp. But man, that Eagles offense was a pathetic embarrassment given the overall talent they had. Dan Orlovsky didn't mince words calling them a "high school offense" for how elementary their offensive plays/schemes were.

As for the Hawks game, that was a head scratcher to me. I'll give the 9ers some credit for keeping our point total low. They deserve that. But the whole game long my one continuous thought was how do we have so few points now? I felt it was more on us than it was on the 9er defense.
 
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If it's any consolation to you, Marvin: I was rooting for you to beat Philly.

But now, back to NO.

In My Opinion: Shanny is an awesome coach. One of the best. Except.

But: and this is important. The Niners have entitlement all over them. Like a disease. I can look at the Niners team and say oh yeah this is a great team, but. There is always a "reason" why they are almost.

For years. Like how long can you have a "reason" why you are not great?

Hi Alice! Been awhile.

I get your point, but I just gotta say...

...if you think you are tired of injury excuses (and I get it), try being a fan of this team that is CONSTANTLY injured. Its not entitlement. It frustration of seeing teams that have a shot have injuries to stars at the worst time. Its uncanny.

Perhaps its the style they play with. Perhaps its the electric station next to the facility (that's a theory...no joke. I don't buy it). Maybe it their fault it keeps happening. Perhaps its dumb luck. Its just SOOOO damn frustrating.

Do the Niners beat the Chiefs if Greenlaw doesn't tear an Achilles running on the field? Do they beat the Eagles in NFCCG if Purdy doesn't get hurt (they've now beaten them twice in a row WITH Purdy)? I can do this all day.

Do you really think you wouldn't be asking the exact same questions if it were your team?

At the end of the day tho, they did get hurt. That's life in the NFL. It happens. Just sucks for Niner fans. No matter how tired you are of it, we are 1000x more tired of it.
 
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For as long as Shanny is calling plays in Super Bowls. Thats how long.
Thats a nice line, but Shannys offense left the field in OT of the Superbowl with the lead and took it twice in the 4th.

They'd have been up by 7 rather than 3 if the RG didn't run the wrong way and leave Chris Jones an unblocked path to Purdy.

That's not bad playcalling.

What cracks me up is how many people let the DCs off the hook on all those games that the other team came back on.
 
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I agree that Saleh deserves credit for making what he has out of a very depleted defensive corp. But man, that Eagles offense was a pathetic embarrassment given the overall talent they had. Dan Orlovsky didn't mince words calling them a "high school offense" for how elementary their offensive plays/schemes were.

As for the Hawks game, that was a head scratcher to me. I'll give the 9ers some credit for keeping our point total low. They deserve that. But the whole game long my one continuous thought was how do we have so few points now? I felt it was more on us than it was on the 9er defense.
Did you hear Shady after the game?

He said he's heard from inside the building that the offense is that simple because Hurts can run the other stuff.

If true, that's a problem.

...as for Seahawks game and low score...I have no answers for you.

As I said before....smoke and mirrors/barbed wire and bubblegum. I have no explanation.
 

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I’m sure you know the details of every play call in those games and I’ll always respect your input. I always have.

That said,

In three Super Bowls Shanny has called, his team has always been the better team objectively on paper. The Niners were so much better than the Chiefs the last SB it’s laughable. CMC should have been utilized more after his fumble, and the game should have never gone into OT.

And we may disagree, but a 5 year old calling plays could have won the SB against the Patriots up 28-3 midway through the 3rd quarter. That was Shanahan wanting to put his stamp on the game more than winning it.

Anybody can lose a Super Bowl with a more talented team, we’ve done it twice. But three times in a row without a win somewhere in between is a pattern.

Maybe this is the year he exorcises those demons. Don’t get me wrong, he is a great coach, but I feel his ego clouds his judgement at times. I do agree with you that this has been one of the most impressive coaching performances I have ever seen and I expect a very competitive game Saturday.
 
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I’m sure you know the details of every play call in those games and I’ll always respect your input. I always have.

That said,

In three Super Bowls Shanny has called, his team has always been the better team objectively on paper. The Niners were so much better than the Chiefs the last SB it’s laughable. CMC should have been utilized more after his fumble, and the game should have never gone into OT.

And we may disagree, but a 5 year old calling plays could have won the SB against the Patriots up 28-3 midway through the 3rd quarter. That was Shanahan wanting to put his stamp on the game more than winning it.

Anybody can lose a Super Bowl with a more talented team, we’ve done it twice. But three times in a row without a win somewhere in between is a pattern.

Maybe this is the year he exorcises those demons. Don’t get me wrong, he is a great coach, but I feel his ego clouds his judgement at times. I do agree with you that this has been one of the most impressive coaching performances I have ever seen and I expect a very competitive game Saturday.
To be clear, I'm not trying to absolve Shanahan entirely. He was the HC and it falls to him. I'm just sayin the DCs had ALOT to do with giving up those leads.

Shanahan got the Falcons to a 28-3 lead. Why couldn't the D hold it?

When the D melted in last SB, he hired Steve Wilks so ultimately if falls to Shanahan.

What really killed them in that game tho is that the CHiefs CBs (McDuffie and Snead) shut down Deebo 1 on 1. Its why he isn't on the roster anymore and its why they drafted Pearsall.

This was supposed to be a team with Aiyuk and Pearsall who can both beat Man coverage.

Aiyuk went nuts and Pearsall can't stay on the field.
 

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Thats a nice line, but Shannys offense left the field in OT of the Superbowl with the lead and took it twice in the 4th.

They'd have been up by 7 rather than 3 if the RG didn't run the wrong way and leave Chris Jones an unblocked path to Purdy.

That's not bad playcalling.

What cracks me up is how many people let the DCs off the hook on all those games that the other team came back on.
Go back to when he was calling plays for Atlanta. 28-3, anyone? Yeah you can look at the defense, but Shanny kept calling long passes while leading and not using up clock. And the last offensive play Atlanta has….shotgun, no one picking up a blitz, a sack pushes them out of field goal range. Bam, Brady gets another ring.

I’m not convinced he learned anything from that.
 

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Shanahan got the Falcons to a 28-3 lead. Why couldn't the D hold it?
Because he kept giving the ball back to the greatest QB who has ever lived without taking any time off the clock?
 

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