What’s with the tipped passes?

[oldhawkfan]

Every game I watched yesterday had tipped passes. It happens to every QB and every team.

 

[Dolomight12]

Sam doesn't have the best pocket feel. If you watch him, most of his bad passes come from him standing pat when things are collapsing and throwing falling back or off platform.

He needs to learn to move subtly to find the lanes.

It's true. Sam would do himself a favor and take some dancing lessons this off season. Salsa, hip-hop, gottdamn river dancing, something. I had a girlfriend (ginger, too) that just had awkward, rhythmless feet/movements. I was like "get out of your head and just 'move'. It's not that hard."

 

[Floridahawk79]

Maybe he can get dancing lessons from K9. That was too easy LOL

 

[keasley45]

Should Sam be moving or at least react to the timing and fact that every thing is closing in and move instead of just standing there trying to throw? In the coarse of a game the line is not gonna all of a sudden get better so move Sam around dammit

Yes. His arm strength and accuracy are top notch, but too often he stands stationary as the pocket in front of and around him are shifting. At best, he threads the needle and gets the ball out anyway. Often, he gets sacked in a pocket he can escape from. At worst, the ball is batted and INTd.

Even the 2pt conversion he hit against the Rams... It made it through the line by a hair. Had he stepped up and a bit more to the right, he would have had a clearer lane.

He has navigated the pocket pretty well in instances. But often, it's the 'concrete shoes' version of Sam that causes problems.

Just something he needs to work on. Quickly

 

[Sperrydogg]

Yes. His arm strength and accuracy are top notch, but too often he stands stationary as the pocket in front of and around him are shifting. At best, he threads the needle and gets the ball out anyway. Often, he gets sacked in a pocket he can escape from. At worst, the ball is batted and INTd.

Even the 2pt conversion he hit against the Rams... It made it through the line by a hair. Had he stepped up and a bit more to the right, he would have had a clearer lane.

He has navigated the pocket pretty well in instances. But often, it's the 'concrete shoes' version of Sam that causes problems.

Just something he needs to work on. Quickly

I think in game coaching and play calling should be helping to move and not stand there until time is up. It’s like 2 or 3 seconds and then move man… or move right away. Depends on how the line is doing. But Derrick brown was wreaking havoc

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Meh, I see a team that's "blocking" their opponents from winning.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Meh, I see a team that's "blocking" their opponents from winning.

True

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

More concerned that any time darnold gets hit its a lottery on whether he coughs the ball up. Is his hand size small?

 

[Bobblehead]

It's an issue, especially when a 5 foot Puna Ford starts batting them down.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Clearly wasn't at the end of the Rams game. Is it annoying? Yep.

But this team is 13-3, I don't think it's the tragedy some of you are making it out to be.

 

[Bobblehead]

More concerned that any time darnold gets hit its a lottery on whether he coughs the ball up. Is his hand size small?

I remember Dave Kreig had small hands, his issues were the ball slipping backwards, but I don't ever recall him having issues of balls being batted down. That said, maybe back then, line men weren't taught to get their hands up, but really, trying to bat the ball down would seem like a natural instinctive play like seeing something fly by you in corner of your eye, you try to catch it. It's probably like golf, if you don't have the correct footwork, or your timing is off, your shot will be off as well.

 

[DTiempo81]

I remember Dave Kreig had small hands, his issues were the ball slipping backwards, but I don't ever recall him having issues of balls being batted down. That said, maybe back then, line men weren't taught to get their hands up, but really, trying to bat the ball down would seem like a natural instinctive play like seeing something fly by you in corner of your eye, you try to catch it. It's probably like golf, if you don't have the correct footwork, or your timing is off, your shot will be off as well.

7 step drops were the norm back then.

 

[Bobblehead]

7 step drops were the norm back then.

Then his balls are probably glancing off of our linemens helmets.

 

[Y.A. Tittle]

Sam’s a good QB, but 49’ers have a definite edge. It’ll be a great football game.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

How do they have a definite edge?

 

[keasley45]

I think in game coaching and play calling should be helping to move and not stand there until time is up. It’s like 2 or 3 seconds and then move man… or move right away. Depends on how the line is doing. But Derrick brown was wreaking havoc

Agree, but it's moments like the first INT against the Rams in the first game and the goal line int in their second game where in both instances, rather than moving, he stands flat, throwing the ball falling backwards, off platform. No degree of in-game coaching or protection scheming can stop him from doing basic things to help a play succeed.

 

[glenwo2]

How do they have a definite edge?

"Trust me, bro" - Y.A. Tittle

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm not discounting the Niners. They are DAMN good. But our Defense is absolutely better, and it's not close, imo.
I'll give Purdy the edge, IF he has time back there.
McCaffrey is a grown man, so they can pound the rock. Coaching wise, I don't like Shanahan but he's damn good.
This game is a tossup, imo. As it should be.
Home field advantage? Maybe. Should be a LOT of Hawks fans there, and it rarely is packed with just Niners fans. "faithful" my a**
Niners are expected by many to win this game. WAY more pressure on them than Seattle.

 

[CPHawk]

Herbert is 6’6 and I’ve seen him get lots of tipped passes also. I think a lot of the blame lies on the OL.

 

[hawker84]

I saw a lot of tipped balls this week in other games. But ya his do seem to get tipped a lot.