If the time comes in GB, Will John Interview with the Packers?

[SNDavidson]

Theoretically, would John leave Seattle on a high note to Green Bay? Should GB implode?

 

[PateratoWilson]

I put other… if he wins another bowl here… he may be ready for another challenge. Since PC is gone we’ve taken back off under him and MM.

 

[SNDavidson]

I think yes, but stays in Seattle, he's a negotiator after all..

 

[Bobblehead]

Didn't he already have that op?

 

[Wsumatt1982]

No way. He appreciates and loved his time in GB but he wants to stay in Seattle forever. His kids grew up here. He loves the area. He's not leaving.

 

[chris98251]

I think if Pete was still here yes he would interview and take it if offered.

Now, this is his baby and he is in the middle of making his mark, if we win a Super Bowl he will have his legacy here for doing it twice, with Pete and on his own. After you win a Superbowl everyone poaches your teams front office and Coaching staff.

Moving to Green Bay after here and winning, yes I could see that, trying to succeed with two franchises would be Historical.

 

[projectorfreak]

Not quite on his own but he definitely knows what he's doing and im very happy he's here
Been knocking it out of the park last few years
Impressive and shoulda been gm of the year at least once

His hit rate on drafting has been scary high last 3 years
Amazing job

 

[IndyHawk]

Maybe Pete interviews for that jerb instead, he's over his head coaching
anything anymore.

 

[projectorfreak]

He sure as hell knows when to move on like nobody
What he did this year alone should win the award
All guts now to get the glory

 

[Hollandhawk]

Why would the packers interview him? I’ve seen it mentioned on this site he is a terrible GM .

 

[James in PA]

Didn't we just extend him? If Green Bay were to try luring him away after this season, the compensation would be outrageous. To hear Cowherd tell it, there was a power struggle between Pete and John and it was to the point where John almost bolted for Detroit a few years ago. John must've been given assurance that he will eventually be the man in Seattle. It all came to head during Pete's last season here. It looks like Jody made the right choice.

 

[86Hawk]

I don't see him leaving. This team is on the rise and the future looks brighter than it has in years.

 

[Lagartixa]

Moving to Green Bay after here and winning, yes I could see that, trying to succeed with two franchises would be Historical.

I can think of examples from baseball with ease. Theo Epstein came to mind first, then Branch Rickey (who basically invented the GM position, among multiple other impressive accomplishments), then Dave Dombrowski. I'm sure there are others, because I thought of those three within 30 seconds and I haven't really followed baseball for years now.

On the other hand, I'm having a much harder time trying to come up with examples of NFL GMs that won Super Bowls with multiple teams. I can think of a bunch who succeeded with multiple teams, sure, but not if a (the) criterion for "success" is winning a Super Bowl.

Bobby Beathard built those champion Washington teams of the '80s (and was responsible for a lot of the important parts of the one that beat the Bills in the Super Bowl after the '91 season), and he got kiiiiinda close with the Chargers, but...

Bill Polian built those Bills teams of the '90s that went to four Super Bowls in a row and were really fun to watch, and then built the Colts teams that went to two Super Bowls and won the first one. But because the Levy-Kelly-Smith-Thomas-Bennett-Reed Bills didn't win any of their four Super Bowls, Polian didn't win titles with two teams. And Polian's work with the Colts wasn't all that great all the time, but he did have great stretches. A bunch of those Colts teams ended up being what my mom used to call "Peyton Manning and some guys," but Manning was so spectacularly great that he managed to drag some pretty weak teams to the playoffs. So Polian is really getting a lot of credit for drafting Manning but it's not entirely that. Those teams that went to the Super Bowls were actually pretty good. And I actually give Polian a little credit for drafting Manning, despite it seeming so obvious to us now, because the Colts scouts actually preferred Leaf (hahahahaha), but Polian liked Manning's preparation, promptness, and attitude in an interview and contrasted it with Leaf showing up less prepared and late for his.
Part of the attitude was Manning at the end of his interview telling Polian something to the effect of "if you draft me, we'll win a championship, but if you don't draft me, I promise to come back and kick your ass."
Polian also thought Manning threw the football better than Leaf. So I do give Polian credit for the title with the Colts, but because those Bills teams of the '90s couldn''t get past the final boss, he's not a GM who won Super Bowls with multiple teams.

Wolf might have been responsible for quite a bit of the success the Raiders had under Al Davis, because he was involved in drafting a lot of the most important players on Raiders teams that won the Super Bowl, but Davis was the nominal GM, so we can only give Wolf winning-titles-as-GM credit for his work with the Packers.

Jim Finks gets credit for zero titles, even though he basically built that '85 Bears team, because he resigned before '85. He did really good work with the Saints after that, but didn't really get close to a title. Finks was also a huge part of building the Vikings into a contender, but those Vikings teams didn't win any Super Bowls, and even if they had, it would be complicated anyway, because one of Fink's really important moves was hiring Bud Grant, but that turned into a Carroll-Schneider situation because Grant's power grew and he ended up having final say on roster moves.

Gang, am I forgetting somebody obvious? I feel like I must be, but I can't think of a single NFL GM that has won Super Bowls with multiple teams.

EDITED to add: OK, George Halas did something that's kinda close. He built four completely separate champion rosters with no players in common - 1921, 1933, 1940-46 (three titles, but not with separate rosters), and 1963. There are probably other long-tenured GMs from NFL history who built completely distinct champion teams with the same franchise. But I still can't think of any multi-team champion GMs.

 

[Hollandhawk]

I can think of examples from baseball with ease. Theo Epstein came to mind first, then Branch Rickey (who basically invented the GM position, among multiple other impressive accomplishments), then Dave Dombrowski. I'm sure there are others, because I thought of those three within 30 seconds and I haven't really followed baseball for years now.

On the other hand, I'm having a much harder time trying to come up with examples of NFL GMs that won Super Bowls with multiple teams. I can think of a bunch who succeeded with multiple teams, sure, but not if a (the) criterion for "success" is winning a Super Bowl.

Bobby Beathard built those champion Washington teams of the '80s (and was responsible for a lot of the important parts of the one that beat the Bills in the Super Bowl after the '91 season), and he got kiiiiinda close with the Chargers, but...

Bill Polian built those Bills teams of the '90s that went to four Super Bowls in a row and were really fun to watch, and then built the Colts teams that went to two Super Bowls and won the first one. But because the Levy-Kelly-Smith-Thomas-Bennett-Reed Bills didn't win any of their four Super Bowls, Polian didn't win titles with two teams. And Polian's work with the Colts wasn't all that great all the time, but he did have great stretches. A bunch of those Colts teams ended up being what my mom used to call "Peyton Manning and some guys," but Manning was so spectacularly great that he managed to drag some pretty weak teams to the playoffs. So Polian is really getting a lot of credit for drafting Manning but it's not entirely that. Those teams that went to the Super Bowls were actually pretty good. And I actually give Polian a little credit for drafting Manning, despite it seeming so obvious to us now, because the Colts scouts actually preferred Leaf (hahahahaha), but Polian liked Manning's preparation, promptness, and attitude in an interview and contrasted it with Leaf showing up less prepared and late for his.
Part of the attitude was Manning at the end of his interview telling Polian something to the effect of "if you draft me, we'll win a championship, but if you don't draft me, I promise to come back and kick your ass."
Polian also thought Manning threw the football better than Leaf. So I do give Polian credit for the title with the Colts, but because those Bills teams of the '90s couldn''t get past the final boss, he's not a GM who won Super Bowls with multiple teams.

Wolf might have been responsible for quite a bit of the success the Raiders had under Al Davis, because he was involved in drafting a lot of the most important players on Raiders teams that won the Super Bowl, but Davis was the nominal GM, so we can only give Wolf winning-titles-as-GM credit for his work with the Packers.

Jim Finks gets credit for zero titles, even though he basically built that '85 Bears team, because he resigned before '85. He did really good work with the Saints after that, but didn't really get close to a title. Finks was also a huge part of building the Vikings into a contender, but those Vikings teams didn't win any Super Bowls, and even if they had, it would be complicated anyway, because one of Fink's really important moves was hiring Bud Grant, but that turned into a Carroll-Schneider situation because Grant's power grew and he ended up having final say on roster moves.

Gang, am I forgetting somebody obvious? I feel like I must be, but I can't think of a single NFL GM that has won Super Bowls with multiple teams.

Yeah AI says you're right. No GM has won super bowls with different teams (as a GM).

 

[Lagartixa]

Yeah AI says you're right. No GM has won super bowls with different teams (as a GM).

I realized George Halas did something close: he built completely distinct NFL-champion rosters (no players in common), but they were all with the same franchise. Y'know, the one he owned.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Didn't he already have that op?

sure did

 

[keasley45]

No way John leaves. I think he is intent on not just winning and Owl here but creating a dynasty - something I am sure he think we squandered 10 years ago. He is in this till the end. No reason for him to leave .

 

[Aircrew]

Maybe. It all comes down to who the GM answers to, and that's ownership. It's good here, Green Bay is a President/CEO since it's a publicly owned team, no clue which one is better. Considering he's originally from Wisconsin, I could see it happening if all of the other factors are an improvement over Seattle.

 

[Trackhawk]

Things would have to get very dark here, for him to leave. The only way I see it happening is if Jody sells the team to someone who turns out to be another Ken Behring, Dan Snyder, Robert Irsay, or Hugh Culverhouse type.

 

[Frank12]

No, John has built his career/legacy in Seattle. Why would he go to Green Bay and live under the shadows of the Packers past legendary GM's? And, With the success the seahawks are having, and the direction this team is headed, if we win another super bowl in the next couple of years John would cement his name in the ring of honor, Why would he want to leave?.. His green bay job was just a stepping stone to get to Seattle to this point of his career. Now, if we were 2-7 and not 7-2, Then i could see him take the job in green bay if offered to him...