Mark Sanchez stabbed in Indy

[SantaClaraHawk]

Thanks for the link. That answers my question about how Fox Sports could be liable for Sanchez's actions.

You would think that if it were a company event where Sanchez got so drunk at that they would have held it at the same venue where they were housed at, ie at the hotel, or provided transportation to and from the hotel. Unless they screwed up royally and didn't do that, then the other option is that they knew or should have known that Sanchez had the propensity to get violent after he'd been drinking, which also seems to me to be pretty unlikely.

Fox is a huge company with what has to be a very large legal department, so the odds are that they are on the hook for any liability regarding Sanchez's actions seems remote to me. My opinion is that the victim's attorneys are on a fishing expedition, that the lawyers are getting a percentage cut from any settlement due to the victim, so they might as well throw a bunch of shit on the wall and maybe some of it will stick.

Sanchez had been at a bar half a block from the hotel. I’m not sure how that lessens liability on Fox, though.

 

[NoGain]

Whatever one thinks of Florio, however he rubs one, he uses his platforms and rightfully calls BS on the league office and owners when they are well deserving of it, and when most others shy away from doing so. He uses his legal expertise in this way so he's not just shooting from the hip when he goes on the offensive.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

If Fox was legally liable for Sanchez’s behavior, I suppose Sanchez should be paid workers comp.

 

[RiverDog]

Sanchez had been at a bar half a block from the hotel. I’m not sure how that lessens liability on Fox, though.

That probably means that it wasn't a company sponsored event where Sanchez got drunk, so my guess is that lessens their liability. The other question is did they have any reason to suspect that Sanchez was a violent drunk or had any way of anticipating the behavior he demonstrated when he attacked the driver.

I'm sticking by my opinion that the victim's lawyers are on a fishing expedition in an effort to milk this case for all its worth, that Fox has zero liability, and that they are just playing things safe by keeping their cards close to their chest until this thing goes to trial or gets settled out of court.

 

[RiverDog]

If Fox was legally liable for Sanchez’s behavior, I suppose Sanchez should be paid workers comp.

IMO that would be a stretch. I do have some familiarity with worker's comp in WA. It's for on-the-job illness and injury and only for lost wages. IMO it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to prove that Sanchez obtained his substance abuse problems as part of his association with Fox, especially when he's been employed by them for just a couple of years. Besides, as far as we know, he still hasn't been fired or suspended w/o pay, and workmen's comp is to cover lost wages while off work due to the occupational injury or illness.

I don't know how successful they were, but I do know of some cases where former employees have sued their employer for substance abuse addiction, but those were primarily salesmen that do a lot of traveling and attend lots of social functions as part of their job, and that's almost certainly not the case with Sanchez's role at Fox.

 

[Dolomight12]

Hmm about this. https://people.com/trump-says-mark-sanchez-is-a-nice-guy-following-indianapolis-arrest-11825926

Sanchez isn’t working in the booth anymore regardless

That tracks.

 

[glenwo2]

Whatever one thinks of Florio, however he rubs one, he uses his platforms and rightfully calls BS on the league office and owners when they are well deserving of it, and when most others shy away from doing so. He uses his legal expertise in this way so he's not just shooting from the hip when he goes on the offensive.

Yeah but I still don't like his smarmy ass.

Him being a lawyer tracks.

 

[glenwo2]

That tracks.

Considering how one half of the population feels about the POTUS, I don't think getting an endorsement by him after what Sanchez did is welcome.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

… I do know of some cases where former employees have sued their employer for substance abuse addiction, but those were primarily salesmen that do a lot of traveling and attend lots of social functions as part of their job, and that's almost certainly not the case with Sanchez's role at Fox.

Traveling and schmoozing are certainly part of an nfl sportscaster’s career, too.

 

[RiverDog]

Florio is a lawyer?

I knew that guy was a c-nt for a reason.

Anyone want to start a thread about lawyer jokes? I'll go first.

There were two lawyers talking to each other at a cocktail when this extraordinary good looking female walks past them. "Boy, I'd sure love to f*** her!" the one lawyer exclaims. "Out of what?" the other lawyer responds.

And here's another one:

Q: Why have they quit using rats for laboratory experiments and started using lawyers?

A: Three reasons: (1) There are more lawyers than there are rats, (2) the loss of one does not emotionally affect the control group, and (3) there are some things that a rat won't do.

 

[RiverDog]

… I do know of some cases where former employees have sued their employer for substance abuse addiction, but those were primarily salesmen that do a lot of traveling and attend lots of social functions as part of their job, and that's almost certainly not the case with Sanchez's role at Fox.

Traveling and schmoozing are certainly part of an nfl sportscaster’s career, too.

Traveling, yes. But schmoozing?

The salesman's job involves coaxing or coercing potential customers into deals, and that sometimes involves drugs and alcohol. You can't say the same thing about sportscasters. You can not partake at all and still be a very effective sportscaster. Not so with salesman, some would argue.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Anyone want to start a thread about lawyer jokes? I'll go first.

There were two lawyers talking to each other at a cocktail when this extraordinary good looking female walks past them. "Boy, I'd sure love to f*** her!" the one lawyer exclaims. "Out of what?" the other lawyer responds.

And here's another one:

Q: Why have they quit using rats for laboratory experiments and started using lawyers?

A: Three reasons: (1) There are more lawyers than there are rats, (2) the loss of one does not emotionally affect the control group, and (3) there are some things that a rat won't do.

lol.

So you know how Nick Sanchez stepped up as the family spokesperson to talk about how great the first responders were and that everyone should pray for Mark’s recovery? USC lawyer.

 

[RiverDog]

lol.

So you know how Nick Sanchez stepped up as the family spokesperson to talk about how great the first responders were and that everyone should pray for Mark’s recovery? USC lawyer.

Yeah, as far as morals go, in my book lawyers are one step above prostitutes and used car salesmen.

25 or so years ago, we, meaning all management, received a group email message that went something like this: "Do not use the term "lawyer" to address me. I am the company attorney or company spokesman." That came not too long after the highly publicized OJ Simpson trial, which gave me a good look at their practices. Ever since then, I've had this thing about lawyers.

 

[pmedic920]

I’m thinking benzos or ambien. It would be pretty easy to convince a doc that he needed them as his job entailed different time zones each week.

Have you ever take either medication you mentioned?

Ever been around someone that does, and possibly mixed more that prescribed dose with alcohol?

 

[pmedic920]

If Fox was legally liable for Sanchez’s behavior, I suppose Sanchez should be paid workers comp.

Huh?

Fox liability in this?

If a judge or jury even entertains that claim our world is worse off than even I imagined.

Only way that happens is, if Fox somehow required him to get shitfaced drunk, or impelled him to attack this guy..

I get it, blame everyone.

Throw shit on the wall until something sticks.

Maybe whoever served the drinks, but even that is harder to get by with than it was a few years back.

 

[bileever]

Yeah but I still don't like his smarmy ass.

Him being a lawyer tracks.

Florio is my least favorite NFL pundit, and that's saying a lot. He does no reporting, talks to no sources and just dishes out hot takes. He's like that annoying guy who sits next to you at a bar and says stupid shit.

Has nothing to do with him being a lawyer. Florio was likely born that way.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Have you ever take either medication you mentioned?

Ever been around someone that does, and possibly mixed more that prescribed dose with alcohol?

Yes, I have.

Blacking out in a fugue state is a fairly common side effect on a normal dose ofambien. Id go to the kitchen and eat random leftovers, go back to bed and wake up with no memory of this.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Huh?

Fox liability in this?

If a judge or jury even entertains that claim our world is worse off than even I imagined.

Only way that happens is, if Fox somehow required him to get shitfaced drunk, or impelled him to attack this guy..

I get it, blame everyone.

Throw shit on the wall until something sticks.

Maybe whoever served the drinks, but even that is harder to get by with than it was a few years back.

I’m not saying I agree.

 

[RiverDog]

Huh?

Fox liability in this?

If a judge or jury even entertains that claim our world is worse off than even I imagined.

Only way that happens is, if Fox somehow required him to get shitfaced drunk, or impelled him to attack this guy..

I get it, blame everyone.

Throw shit on the wall until something sticks.

Maybe whoever served the drinks, but even that is harder to get by with than it was a few years back.

Oh, you're preaching to the choir as far as Fox's liability in this goes. If I were the judge when the lawyers came to me with a lawsuit against Fox, they wouldn't be able to stop me from laughing at them.

But on the other hand, I didn't think some old lady could collect millions from McDonald's for spilling coffee on her lap, either. I'm pretty sure that's what is motivating the lawyers. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

 

[Dolomight12]

Yes, I have.

Blacking out in a fugue state is a fairly common side effect on a normal dose ofambien. Id go to the kitchen and eat random leftovers, go back to bed and wake up with no memory of this.

After my bro was killed, my sweet, naive, 80+ year old Flip doctor gave me a monthly script of 60mg of Xanax, and 180 15mg oxy . I'm lucky to be alive and not in prison.