Sounds like Woolen is being benched

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Yeah, that's why I never got involved in youth sports, ie having to deal with the parents. The closest I got was agreeing to umpire Little League baseball games, but even then, I had to run the parents away from standing behind the backstop as they were arguing with me on just about every pitch.

But back to the topic. These young men are professional athletes, and if they can't take the disappointment of getting benched, then they're going to have one helluva problem dealing with everything else life's going to throw at them in the coming years.
Yeah we had a play where it looked like a backward pass and it bounced and our guy picked up but another ref blew the whistle and everyone stopped but then we were yelling run run but the refs blew it dead, the parents in the stands were screaming “that was a reverse pass!!!” I was like “YEAH… they’re 12….”
 

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Yeah, that's why I never got involved in youth sports, ie having to deal with the parents. The closest I got was agreeing to umpire Little League baseball games, but even then, I had to run the parents away from standing behind the backstop as they were arguing with me on just about every pitch.

But back to the topic. These young men are professional athletes, and if they can't take the disappointment of getting benched, then they're going to have one helluva problem dealing with everything else life's going to throw at them in the coming years.
Most elite level/ Professional athletes have been coddled most of their lives. Even when parents are extremely over zealous motivators they still let things slide. Educational leaders allow things to slide based on athletics.
Coaches will accept bad behavior in exchange for exceptional performance.

Many do have problems dealing with every day life, we see it fairly regularly.
 

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Woolen will be seen as serviceable somewhere else in 2026 just as LJ Collier and Cody Barton were and are seen by their new teams. In Bartons last year here, his backup was Shaquem Griffin, so the Hawks made the best of Bartons poor play which did improve a bit. We had better options for collier, so we just sat him hoping we might get a comp pick out of the year as no one was gonna trade for him
 

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Most elite level/ Professional athletes have been coddled most of their lives. Even when parents are extremely over zealous motivators they still let things slide. Educational leaders allow things to slide based on athletics.
Coaches will accept bad behavior in exchange for exceptional performance.

Many do have problems dealing with every day life, we see it fairly regularly.
I'm not close enough to any professional athletes, coaches, or educators to know whether or not that's true, but what you say does make sense and would explain a lot of things for several professional athletes, for example, your narrative sure fit Percy Harvin like a glove, who was coddled in high school and by Urban Meyer at Florida, and likely one that fits Shedeur Saunders. But do you honestly think that it fits 'most' elite athletes? I sure hope not.
 

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I'm not close enough to any professional athletes, coaches, or educators to know whether or not that's true, but what you say does make sense and would explain a lot of things for several professional athletes, for example, your narrative sure fit Percy Harvin like a glove, who was coddled in high school and by Urban Meyer at Florida, and likely one that fits Shedeur Saunders. But do you honestly think that it fits 'most' elite athletes? I sure hope not.
I do think most elite level (professional) athletes were coddled, especially in the early years.

I do believe it can make life away from sports a bit challenging for them.

I do not believe they all struggle and act out as a result.
Obviously most transition well.
 

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I'm not close enough to any professional athletes, coaches, or educators to know whether or not that's true, but what you say does make sense and would explain a lot of things for several professional athletes, for example, your narrative sure fit Percy Harvin like a glove, who was coddled in high school and by Urban Meyer at Florida, and likely one that fits Shedeur Saunders. But do you honestly think that it fits 'most' elite athletes? I sure hope not.
There are three “elite” athletes on my 12U team one is coddled and spoiled, one’s parents do drugs and are always outa gas, and the other one is my son (step-son) and he ehhh… ok maybe a little spoiled but not coddled, but we have rules and respect. So 1.5 outa 3….
 

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I do think most elite level (professional) athletes were coddled, especially in the early years.

I do believe it can make life away from sports a bit challenging for them.

I do not believe they all struggle and act out as a result.
Obviously most transition well.
I certainly don't doubt you, and as we both know, being spoiled and coddled isn't limited to elite professional athletes, either.

There is a transition period not just for athletes, but for other professions as well. At my former place of employment, we once had a QA manager that was a captain fresh out of the Marine Corps, and I swore that he actually expected his subordinates to salute him as we would walk past him. He also had a difficult time in meetings when there were give-and-take arguments. When you're in a life-or-death situation in the Marines, time is of the essence, and you don't want your subordinates arguing with an officer. You say "Yes, sir!" and charge up the hill. That kind of conditioning is hard for some people to get out of their system.

I can imagine that it can be difficult for some professional athletes to make that transition to what you and me would refer to as "the real world." I've just never experienced one first hand.
 

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