Yeah there’s a lot of false citation work on this site. I think the knocks on Geno during his time here were mostly unwarranted overreactions to either a single case where he pissed a particular fan off with a mistake or their inability to use the available data to help make a fair judgment of him. Bias runs rampant here.
With that said he’s looked on and off in LV and Sam looked rough week one but has picked it up the last two weeks. I see Geno on the down and Sam on the up, personally.
Both are going to make mistakes as do all other players at the position. Geno doesn’t walk on water, but I feel he had to do that here or get called trash.
I don't disagree. But it's even in that fact that my point is made.
When Geno was here, we had one of the worst o lines, defenses and running games in the league. Those who commented that citing that as a contributing reason as to why a QB would struggle were accused of blind defense. Or if they acknowledged the issue, never provided any input as to how much a QB might struggle when strapped with units that ranked in the bottom 3 in the league.
Sam has the benefit of all of those pieces that have been absent for years and thank God he does because it's been lackingfar too long. Yet the elevation of Sam over Geno in the Sam V Geno debate, like the Russ v Geno debate before it ignores that fact.
But the Geno v Russ, Sam or whoever else debate is dumb to begin with and born out of a desire to want 'ones 'guy' to succeed above all else. It's tribalism at it's worse. Sure, sports itself is tribal by nature, so it's to be expected. The low part comes from one side insisting that because they feel a certain way, that others do.
It's not different really than the S Alexander debate in Lynch's his early years around who was better. If you made the argument that Alexander, despite his stats, wasn't as great a RB as those numbers indicated, you ran the risk of being called a hater. Why? Because you were 'bad talking' another fans favorite player or contradicting a fan who chose to just hold up the numbers as evidence of greatness at the end of the day. The o line's contribution mattered little. The hall of fame HC credentials mattered less. All that mattered were the numbers. Similar thing happening now. It's just the climate in which it all happens and the attacking nature of those who hold their positions has gotten worse.
Whatever I thought about Alexander V Lynch, Russ vs whoever and Geno vs Sam (I don't even see that as a necessary thing) has no bearing on who I like as a player. I don't fan for one guy over another and my allegiance is to the team. I loved C Warner and hated when he left. I loved D Fender and C Warren after they came along and carried us to wins. I loved Krieg, Hasselbeck and Russ all for what they individually did. I appreciate Geno for what he did and I am hopeful that Sam continues to succeed. Success is all that matters but success is predicated on more than just a players own individual ability even when we try to make it just an argument about Jim vs Joe.