Walker

[FrodosFinger]

Yeah it is disheartening to see the foot issue is still lingering with Walker he’s darn good when on the field but like I was alluding to earlier, with Charbonnet you get four yards and a cloud of dust. Dude just brings his lunch pail to work everyday and grinds.

 

[JPatera76]

side note... Charbs TD had a little Wags nod there with the bow there in the endzone, loved it

 

[Jville]

Something to keep n mind ....................

Walker volunteered in an August interview that he changed both his diet and work out routine in search of better durability.

.................. we'll see, in a couple of weeks, what that will produce.

 

[Pickly]

Don’t know why people are so down on K9. Yes, he’s often injured. No, he probably won’t be resigned because of such injury history. He’s as explosive as they come and he hasn’t really been able to show us his full potential given how horrible the line play and offensive scheme has been since he got here.

Seahawk running backs get hurt. Often. More you have on the roster the merrier. K9s worth to this team this season if he’s relatively healthy vastly outweighs whatever we get by trading him.

 

[SPOHAWK]

Not sure where I read/saw it, but I believe the typical NFL RB misses 3-5 games per season with various injuries. Expecting them to go 17 every year is unrealistic. Having two top runners is a good idea. Having 3 is a luxury.

K9, Charbs, and Holani sounds like a pretty good stable to me.

and Martinez

 

[JPatera76]

and Martinez

I think they'll find a way to keep Wright as well. Both of them could "duke it out" next year. Wright has shown a lot more than Martinez, however I will say Martinez looks more like a slower bruiser type RB

 

[Streamhawk]

Honest question for those who don’t like K9. If you played any kind of organized football, what position did you play? What position or positions on the field do you feel most comfortable assessing from a place of understanding about that position?

Back in the day I was a RB. Not professionally or collegiately, but I feel I have a better understanding of that position than most others. I also played some DB but wasn’t as good at it and don’t really have the eye to see what makes the difference in DBs. I can look at o linemen and think to myself, it sure looks like he can block but I don’t really have the understanding of the nuances it takes for that position.

I understand the RB position better than other positions. I’m certainly no expert but playing it and watching backs over the years has made it the one position that is clearly my favorite position on a football team.
I look for the basics like size and speed, but I also look for the intangibles. Like vision, twitchiness, change ability, contact, ability to avoid contact, quickness,…

I will tell you all this much from my simple Oldhawkfan observations, K9 is good, really good.

I will take your word for it. My eye test suggest the same, although I never played any level of football besides schoolyard or neighborhood. The dude has it all; let’s be patient and see him shine in this new offense.

 

[SPOHAWK]

I think they'll find a way to keep Wright as well. Both of them could "duke it out" next year. Wright has shown a lot more than Martinez, however I will say Martinez looks more like a slower bruiser type RB

Speed at first...then Martinez pounding later in the game...

 

[RehireMora]

It's his contract year, I have seen so many average players ball out in their contract year.

The one area that the NFL is kind of a sucker in is "Contract year wonders". Walker is a great running back and he will tough out some pain this year.

Walker will muster up 1200 yards and lock himself into a smaller contract by some team

 

[Boycie]

There’s always a number you can’t say no to, whether it’s draft picks, players or both but I don’t see anyone offering a haul for him right now. Once he gets rolling I think people will be glad he’s here.

exactly! Wayne Gretzky got traded!

 

[RiverDog]

woah woah woah... and the 2013 Seahawks went 4-0 as well.. lol

Exactly! Which means that the preseason results are not a predictor one way or another.

 

[Hollandhawk]

K9 reminds me kind of Le’Veon Bell and his running style, waiting for the lineman to hit their assigned blocks and make the cut to explode through the created hole. That doesn’t work when you’re running behind a line that can’t block anyone. How Charb runs work betters behind a bad line.

 

[Sonichound16]

Rewatching some game clips(love top billin!) and I can't help but wonder what K9 would do with some of that blocking. It's causing me to rethink who I am going to keep in my FFB keeper league. He just has a burst and breakaway that our other backs don't possess. A few of those plays that went for good gains and first downs likely would have been long TD's if Walker was toting the rock. So many beat one man and your gone looks....shaping up to be a fun season.

 

[James in PA]

, Texas Ranger

 

[RiverDog]

Something to keep n mind ....................

Walker volunteered in an August interview that he changed both his diet and work out routine in search of better durability.

.................. we'll see, in a couple of weeks, what that will produce.

If he were an offensive lineman, I could see where such changes might have some impact on susceptibility to injury, particularly muscle strains. But by definition, as a starting running back in the NFL, Walker is already a highly refined athlete, obviously not overweight or with significant underlying conditions that would lead to muscle strains or putting more stress on knees and ankles.

I'm not a doctor or nutritionist and maybe there's someone out there that could educate me, but I'm skeptical that changes in his workout routine and even more skeptical that changes in his diet could significantly reduce his injury risk.

 

[chris98251]

Maybe with a new blocking scheme and not one where RB's are hit before they get to the line of scrimmage consistently and we led the league or were top 5 almost every year Pete was here our RB will take less punishment, having a FB will also eliminate a lot of initiating contact before they get started and they can show their skill sets. Our RB's and even back to USC those backs took shit loads of punishment. Charbs is a downhill guy with little to no wiggle or lateral cut ability. Nice change of pace and short yardage, burst runs are not his forte.

 

[Jville]

If he were an offensive lineman, I could see where such changes might have some impact on susceptibility to injury, particularly muscle strains. But by definition, as a starting running back in the NFL, Walker is already a highly refined athlete, obviously not overweight or with significant underlying conditions that would lead to muscle strains or putting more stress on knees and ankles.

I'm not a doctor or nutritionist and maybe there's someone out there that could educate me, but I'm skeptical that changes in his workout routine and even more skeptical that changes in his diet could significantly reduce his injury risk.

Teams and players spend a lot of time and money on sports nutrition, medicine, and training. It's individualized. Composition changes over time with the onset of individual by individual injury and experiences. The prefrontal cortex is thought to mature around 25 years of age. Interesting, that the Seahawks lead nutritionist noted, in an interview, that players tend to become more receptive to addressing nutrition around age 26. Hot tubs, ice baths, massages are all of benefit to recovery regardless of position or role. It's all something that is learned.

Abe Lucas recently mentioned his new found interest in Kinesiology. Perhaps that might be a useful place to start. I'm currently helping my best friend recover from a particularly bad femur fracture. That recovery isn't just about a bone healing. It necessitates a whole body physical and mental effort ..... one day at a time.

It's a process. As it is for all players in this game of life.

 

[RiverDog]

Teams and players spend a lot of time and money on sports nutrition, medicine, and training. It's individualized. Composition changes over time with the onset of individual by individual injury and experiences. The prefrontal cortex is thought to mature around 25 years of age. Interesting, that the Seahawks lead nutritionist noted, in an interview, that players tend to become more receptive to addressing nutrition around age 26. Hot tubs, ice baths, massages are all of benefit to recovery regardless of position or role. It's all something that is learned.

Abe Lucas recently mentioned his new found interest in Kinesiology. Perhaps that might be a useful place to start. I'm currently helping my best friend recover from a particularly bad femur fracture. That recovery isn't just about a bone healing. It necessitates a whole body physical and mental effort ..... one day at a time.

It's a process. As it is for all players in this game of life.

I appreciate the response. What you describe certainly sounds good for overall health and recovering from an injury, but preventing or making one less susceptible to injury? I'm in no position to contest what you're saying, but in order to convince me, I'd have to see a series of studies involving a large population, of which is next to impossible to get on any kind of scale that would give it credibility.

 

[Jville]

I appreciate the response. What you describe certainly sounds good for overall health and recovering from an injury, but preventing or making one less susceptible to injury? I'm in no position to contest what you're saying, but in order to convince me, I'd have to see a series of studies involving a large population, of which is next to impossible to get on any kind of scale that would give it credibility.

Sounds like the physiology of risk taking .... as well as preparation and situation awareness among other battlefield considerations. A lot of variables within an 11 man squad plus coaches and support staff.

 

[CPHawk]

Got the talent but no durability...the roided up guys always seem to get hurt ie nick bosa

Wait. I thought the nfl was clean, and the only roofed up guy ever was Boz? Everyone else is just a natural physical freak.