Micah Parsons *possible* trade incoming?

[PateratoWilson]

Hell of player..

The cost would be sky high though. If we 100% knew what we had with our O´Line and QB moving forward, I’d be all in paying a premium.

However, if the O-line doesn’t gel and Darnold underperforms a little, it would be hard to be in position without premium draft picks for a few years.

Maybe I’m just a little gun shy after giving up so much for Adams (I know, I know…different player and position).

Sounds like he is going somewhere though. The only hope Jurrah has now is to offer him insane money.

Stop being reasonable! Ha.

 

[seabowl]

Jamal Adams to Seattle
Russell Wilson to Denver
Joey Galloway to Dallas
Etc…

These are just a few examples of star players obtained by, or traded from, the Seahawks where the team acquiring these players not only had to pay high draft capital but also having to pay their huge salaries and it didn’t work out. Trying to trade for a guy like Parsons is going to take a tremendous amount of capital and he’s going to demand a tremendous amount of money. In my opinion, especially if the players and picks needed to trade for him is too high, it is not worth the risk because Parsons is one player, and if he gets hurt, the trade would be a disaster. Just look at Adam’s and Galloway for examples.

 

[CPHawk]

Jamal Adams to Seattle
Russell Wilson to Denver
Joey Galloway to Dallas
Etc…

These are just a few examples of star players obtained by, or traded from, the Seahawks where the team acquiring these players not only had to pay high draft capital but also having to pay their huge salaries and it didn’t work out. Trying to trade for a guy like Parsons is going to take a tremendous amount of capital and he’s going to demand a tremendous amount of money. In my opinion, especially if the players and picks needed to trade for him is too high, it is not worth the risk because Parsons is one player, and if he gets hurt, the trade would be a disaster. Just look at Adam’s and Galloway for examples.

You forgot Clowney and Richardson. A couple of bed trades

 

[RiverDog]

Jamal Adams to Seattle
Russell Wilson to Denver
Joey Galloway to Dallas
Etc…

These are just a few examples of star players obtained by, or traded from, the Seahawks where the team acquiring these players not only had to pay high draft capital but also having to pay their huge salaries and it didn’t work out. Trying to trade for a guy like Parsons is going to take a tremendous amount of capital and he’s going to demand a tremendous amount of money. In my opinion, especially if the players and picks needed to trade for him is too high, it is not worth the risk because Parsons is one player, and if he gets hurt, the trade would be a disaster. Just look at Adam’s and Galloway for examples.

That's my impression, too, that these player-for-picks trades rarely work out for the team that gets the player. I'll pass.

Edit: If you're talking Seahawk experience in player-for-picks swaps, you have to include the Jimmy Graham and Percy Harvin trades.

 

[seabowl]

You forgot Clowney and Richardson. A couple of bed trades

Yes, but those weren’t significant capital

 

[seabowl]

That's my impression, too, that these player-for-picks trades rarely work out for the team that gets the player. I'll pass.

Edit: If you're talking Seahawk experience in player-for-picks swaps, you have to include the Jimmy Graham and Percy Harvin trades.

Yes, the Harvin trade was not good and the Graham trade was not terrible, but getting rid of Unger was a big mistake

 

[cymatica]

The worst thing about the Harvin trade was losing Tate the next season.

 

[NoGain]

I was thinking and trying to come up with trades for veteran stars for high draft capital besides the Khalil Mack trade I mentioned above that you could say panned out. The only one that jumped to mind was the Rams sending two first round picks and a late round pick to the Jaguars for Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey went on to play a vital role in the Rams winning a Super Bowl. The only other one that came to mind was the Cowboys acquiring Charles Haley from the 49ers who helped the Cowboys win three Super Bowls. But because Haley was considered a malcontent, it only cost the Cowboys a second and third round pick. I kind of drew a blank after that.

 

[Seahawker]

It was a nice little pipe dream but ain't gonna happen. Parsons new contract will likely make him the highest paid non QB in the league and the cost in draft picks would be prohibitive. JS just fixed our salary cap situation but he will have to be prudent to re-sign some of our own over the next couple of years.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Jamal Adams to Seattle
Russell Wilson to Denver
Joey Galloway to Dallas
Etc…

These are just a few examples of star players obtained by, or traded from, the Seahawks where the team acquiring these players not only had to pay high draft capital but also having to pay their huge salaries and it didn’t work out. Trying to trade for a guy like Parsons is going to take a tremendous amount of capital and he’s going to demand a tremendous amount of money. In my opinion, especially if the players and picks needed to trade for him is too high, it is not worth the risk because Parsons is one player, and if he gets hurt, the trade would be a disaster. Just look at Adam’s and Galloway for examples.

None of these guys were as good at their jobs as Parsons.

Yes, I'm including Russ. Parsons is scheme-transcendent and makes the players around him better. We are talking about a nearly generational player, one whom the coaching staff already knows.

We're not talking about a tight end or wide receiver here, Seabowl. Normally I'd be the "don't blow up the cap" downer, but I've always advocated spending on the DL because of the position's importance. Two first-rounders is steep, but shouldn't be off the table.

 

[toffee]

If you were Parsons, what would you want?

A team willing to pay.
A legit contender, now and for seasons to come.
A culture that will stay for seasons to come.
A defense genius as head coach.

Look, we check all the boxes. Seahawks are not only on his short list, but something to die for. His agent should be callin' Willi Schneider, begging for a chance to talk with John Schneider.

 

[Fresno Hawk]

As much as I hatethe pricew it will cost, I sure wouldn't mind this trade at all. This guy is a beast. Mafe, our 1st,2nd, next year and make it happen.

 

[NoGain]

This Parsons thing has really solidified my personal opinion that ownership has WAY too much control over its player's careers. Two things alone are ridiculous to me: The franchise tag, and the length of control teams have over player's initial contracts, most specifically their first round picks. It's bad enough that a college player can't even choose where they want to work, but they can be stuck playing for a crappy franchise for up to seven years if they are a first round pick (five years on the initial contract plus two franchise tags). If you're a first round pick as a running back, you could be nearing the end of your prime by the time you're up for your second contract.

Now I know it doesn't always come to this, but it's remarkable to me how little actual leverage players have over owners at certain significant times during their careers. I can't believe that things like this won't be at the top of the agenda for the player's union when the next CBA comes around.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

If you were Parsons, what would you want?

A team willing to pay.
A legit contender, now and for seasons to come.
A culture that will stay for seasons to come.
A defense genius as head coach.

Look, we check all the boxes. Seahawks are not only on his short list, but something to die for. His agent should be callin' Willi Schneider, begging for a chance to talk with John Schneider.

And he checks all the boxes for us:

*Outstanding player in his prime, makes others better
*Knows the DC
*Position that's worth the price
*Underrated need (this DL is oooooollllddddd)
*Does not appear allergic to the idea of playing in South Alaska

 

[seabowl]

None of these guys were as good at their jobs as Parsons.

Yes, I'm including Russ. Parsons is scheme-transcendent and makes the players around him better. We are talking about a nearly generational player, one whom the coaching staff already knows.

We're not talking about a tight end or wide receiver here, Seabowl. Normally I'd be the "don't blow up the cap" downer, but I've always advocated spending on the DL because of the position's importance. Two first-rounders is steep, but shouldn't be off the table.

My point was more about putting all your eggs in one basket where if that one player, in this case Parsons gets hurt, your team is pretty much done.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

My point was more about putting all your eggs in one basket where if that one player, in this case Parsons gets hurt, your team is pretty much done.

We're not that bad off, though.

 

[FrodosFinger]

We have good edges outside linebackers in guys like Derek Hall and Boye Mafe and Uchenna. Parsons is probably the best in the league at that position no doubt but is he worth given up 2 firsts for and then paying him $50 million a year. I don’t think so. We got a nice front I want to hold onto our draft capital

 

[Sperrydogg]

Didn’t Micah parsons and Demarcus lawrence have a bit of a tussle about who was playing hard? Be funny to see them together again…

 

[Sperrydogg]

We have good edges outside linebackers in guys like Derek Hall and Boye Mafe and Uchenna. Parsons is probably the best in the league at that position no doubt but is he worth given up 2 firsts for and then paying him $50 million a year. I don’t think so. We got a nice front I want to hold onto our draft capital

No… he is not worth two firsts and stuff.

 

[oldhawkfan]

This Parsons thing has really solidified my personal opinion that ownership has WAY too much control over its player's careers. Two things alone are ridiculous to me: The franchise tag, and the length of control teams have over player's initial contracts, most specifically their first round picks. It's bad enough that a college player can't even choose where they want to work, but they can be stuck playing for a crappy franchise for up to seven years if they are a first round pick (five years on the initial contract plus two franchise tags). If you're a first round pick as a running back, you could be nearing the end of your prime by the time you're up for your second contract.

Now I know it doesn't always come to this, but it's remarkable to me how little actual leverage players have over owners at certain significant times during their careers. I can't believe that things like this won't be at the top of the agenda for the player's union when the next CBA comes around.

Yeah, those poor bastards and the millions of dollars pouring into their bank accounts.