What Happens If They Dont Draft OL?

[Wsumatt1982]

Sam Darnold is not a very good QB when he's under pressure. He also had a great coach for a QB and major weapons to throw to last year in Minny. At this point in time, this coming season is not looking good for us, even with a favorable schedule. The Rams will likely win the division, and I'm not so sure that second place in the division is going to be easy to come by. And with teams like the Commanders, Packers, Vikings, Bears battling for those three remaining playoff spots, the NFC West may well only put the division winner in the playoffs.

I get what you're saying but Mahomes in the Super Bowl, behind one of the better O lines in the league, looked like garbage under pressure. All QB's do, if not most, but even the "best" look pretty poor under pressure. I always hate when someone says Darnold or Smith were bad under pressure, it's like no shit? who doesn't?

 

[Ostatehawk]

And let's be real, no matter WHO they take, a lot of people will lose their minds. I'm sure it's not just Hawks fans, but damn.
You didn't pick who I WANTED, you suck!! Endless entertainment

I am already gearing up into a towering rage over whoever they pick with 18.

 

[AROS]

Sam Darnold is not a very good QB when he's under pressure. He also had a great coach for a QB and major weapons to throw to last year in Minny. At this point in time, this coming season is not looking good for us, even with a favorable schedule. The Rams will likely win the division, and I'm not so sure that second place in the division is going to be easy to come by. And with teams like the Commanders, Packers, Vikings, Bears battling for those three remaining playoff spots, the NFC West may well only put the division winner in the playoffs.

 

[onanygivensunday]

My sense... just a guess, really... is John is going to do one of two things with #18...

1) he'll either pick a player that Mac pounds the table for... drafting an impact player on the defensive side of the ball be it Edge, Dline, LB or DB... or

2) he'll trade out of #18, picking up more draft capital by moving down to the mid-20s... and drafting the best Offensive lineman still available.

 

[Torc]

If the new offensive coaching staff is able to coach the line up to JAG level, as opposed to the Turnstile level that they've been, that's an improvement and I'm not as concerned about drafting talent. The problem is we won't know that until the season starts.

 

[Kamcussionator]

Here, this might help. UDFA are more likely to become starting OG than first rounders.

Where was the average NFL offensive starter drafted, by position?

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[Seahawker]

 

[glenwo2]

I get what you're saying but Mahomes in the Super Bowl, behind one of the better O lines in the league, looked like garbage under pressure. All QB's do, if not most, but even the "best" look pretty poor under pressure. I always hate when someone says Darnold or Smith were bad under pressure, it's like no shit? who doesn't?

Same old story for me. People trying to find any reason to toss shade at Darnold or downplay anything positive that he's done.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I am already gearing up into a towering rage over whoever they pick with 18.

Here for all of it.

 

[Sprfunk]

Well, I don't mind if the first pick is not Oline. I want BPA. I have not done a ton of research into this draft, but I have heard many analysts say that there are only around 10 players with 1 round grades. This sounds like a perfect draft to trade down if possible if there is no real drop off in players from 18 to down to midway in the second round.
Also Oline players tend to take 2-3 years to develop. Even if we drafted a new center and two new guards our Oline would be bottom barrel again next year. I want them to draft Oline for sure, but they will need time to grow also.
So I guess my best hope is that our current young players grow into the roll and hold it down. Perhaps this is part of Jon's plan.

 

[Scout]

Sam Darnold is not a very good QB when he's under pressure. He also had a great coach for a QB and major weapons to throw to last year in Minny. At this point in time, this coming season is not looking good for us, even with a favorable schedule. The Rams will likely win the division, and I'm not so sure that second place in the division is going to be easy to come by. And with teams like the Commanders, Packers, Vikings, Bears battling for those three remaining playoff spots, the NFC West may well only put the division winner in the playoffs.

The 49ers are also in the mix as they are still very dangerous as a team. The 49ers have 11 picks to improve a very good roster still and they pick higher than the Seahawks. The Cardinals have continued to upgrade their talent across the board but a big emphasis was the trenches and front seven of their defense. If the Rams, Cardinals and 49ers upgrade their respective trenches then the division becomes tough in a hurry as they have a lot of talent at skill positions too.

 

[glenwo2]

^^^ Let's not overreact with the Niners (who just had a virtual fire-sale) and the Cardinals STILL being the Cardinals.

The only real team to worry about in our division will be the LA Sheep.

This upcoming schedule for us is going to give us cavities with the amount of Creampuffs on it.

 

[WestCoastChippewa]

Ask again in December.
I'm pretty sure the first thing Kubiak & Co. looked into after he/they were hired is the OL. They've probably already watched tape from all 17 games last year and then some.
I'm taking JS at his word; the OL coach and run game coordinator like who the Seahawks have on the roster already.
Its like beating a dead horse already...
SEA!!! HAWKS!!!

 

[Scout]

Here, this might help. UDFA are more likely to become starting OG than first rounders.

Where was the average NFL offensive starter drafted, by position?

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The goal is to move beyond finding starting level OGs. And to find some studs!

If you study many NFL teams they have a mix of late round or undrafted free agents at tackle, guard and center. But they also sprinkle in first/second round guards/centers and tackles too. And make some trades or free agent acquisitions to fill gaps in their starting lineups.

But then when you look at the NFC landscape the emphasis on trench players led by the Eagles and Lions has caused other teams to do something similar too. The Eagles have assembled an uber talented OL as an example and the same with the Lions. The Bears are doing just that this off season as well as the Vikings.

Also, the rumor is the Bucs that pick after the Seahawks may go offense with the dark horse Zabel if the remaining edge rushers/safeties/DL/WRs on the board do not fit their organization. Zabel would slide right next to Barton (1st round) and Wirfs(1st round) with Mauch(2nd round) and Goedeke(2nd round) on the other side. And if Zabel isn't ready to play year 1 they re-signed Bredeson and Zabel would be the primary interior OL backup as depth which is a good problem to have as the Bucs have a high octane offense.

 

[Scout]

^^^ Let's not overreact with the Niners (who just had a virtual fire-sale) and the Cardinals STILL being the Cardinals.

The only real team to worry about in our division will be the LA Sheep.

This upcoming schedule for us is going to give us cavities with the amount of Creampuffs on it.

49ers have a very strong roster and most of their existing players are better than the players they lost or moved on from in all honesty.

The Cardinals on the other hand have improved one of the worst rosters in the league a few years ago to being very talented roster top to bottom. And they have some high picks to work with too this time around.

Tough, tough division and I wouldn't be surprised if the NFCW overcomes the NFCN as the toughest division in football.

 

[GetNjigbaWithIt]

What happens if they don't draft OL? Nuclear annihilation, followed by the sky falling, and the grand finale, the sun explodes, instantly turning the Earth into microscopic dust particles. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT JOHN!?!?

 

[CalgaryFan05]

I always hate when someone says Darnold or Smith were bad under pressure, it's like no shit? who doesn't?

Truth!

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Same old story for me. People trying to find any reason to toss shade at Darnold or downplay anything positive that he's done.

I could just as easily talk about people trying to find any reason to exaggerate his accomplishments and brush over anything negative.

 

[Shane Falco]

Here, this might help. UDFA are more likely to become starting OG than first rounders.

Where was the average NFL offensive starter drafted, by position?

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This is just a terrible flawed way to make it seem like UDFA's are as likely to be, what we consider to be starters, as 1st rounders. And even by his own admission. Except he doesn't think it's flawed because of it, but it truely is.

He is right, starters are always getting hurt across the league. And who usually replaces those guys? Depth players. So he's looking at a guy like Michael Jerrell last season and saying he's as likely a starter as anyone drafted in the 1st round.

 

[Appyhawk]

If we don't address our O Line with at least one of our early picks here is what needs to happen:
1) Dock JS' pay.
2) Blockade Lumen with hoards of protestors.
3) Just play defense the entire game.
4) Occupy our storm shelter permanently.
If that doesn't work sell the team to Canada.