What Happens If They Dont Draft OL?

[pittpnthrs]

Is JS feeling the pressure? Is MM accountable somehow? Will the players start a mutiny? Will the 12's burn the stadium down?

Seriously, if a Guard isn't taken with the first pick we have, is it time for JS to get the boot? They have been signing JAGs all around to fill some holes so the OL should be priority in the draft. Surely they are going to draft interior linemen with the first few picks,,,,,right?

 

[olyfan63]

If we roll with the OL under contract, then it becomes Klint Kubiak's problem. Can he make chicken salad out of that talent pool? Would it be OK if instead Schneider chooses another "Thumper" (as Chuck Knox would say) or two, and MMac turns that into a #1 scoring defense like in the glory years?

P.S. I think the Hawks are well positioned to go BPA in the draft and would love that more than BGA. I have dreams of Ashton Jeanty falling to #18 and seeing Beastmode-esque runs again. (BGA = "Best Guard Available", who may have been a tackle in college)

 

[James in PA]

Is JS feeling the pressure? Is MM accountable somehow? Will the players start a mutiny? Will the 12's burn the stadium down?

Seriously, if a Guard isn't taken with the first pick we have, is it time for JS to get the boot? They have been signing JAGs all around to fill some holes so the OL should be priority in the draft. Surely they are going to draft interior linemen with the first few picks,,,,,right?

I still say he won't do it. Even if a guy like Zabel is sitting there, John will pick a safety or an edge with the first pick. He'll wait until rounds 2 or 3 to address IOL.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I'm cool with not going guard/IOL with the first pick. I actually don't see much of an appreciable difference between the IOL talent at 18 and what's likely to be there with our first day 2 picks.

I think he knows we have to come away with some legitimate starter-quality talent at the spot. I suspect he's under pressure from ownership at this point.

If the choice is between Grey Zabel and a second rate defender/receiver, or something like Jihaad Campbell and a guard on par with Tate Ratledge - hell, I'd rather go with the latter option.

If there was one of those surefire guys like a David DeCastro or Ryan Kelly likely sitting there at 18, I'd be more gung-ho about going that direction though.

 

[Scout]

Is JS feeling the pressure? Is MM accountable somehow? Will the players start a mutiny? Will the 12's burn the stadium down?

Seriously, if a Guard isn't taken with the first pick we have, is it time for JS to get the boot? They have been signing JAGs all around to fill some holes so the OL should be priority in the draft. Surely they are going to draft interior linemen with the first few picks,,,,,right?

The team will finish with 7 to 10 wins next season without improvement from existing interior OL and OL upgrades via the draft. I do not see a higher ceiling unless they catch lightning in a bottle.

The other NFC teams are going to load up on the trenches in the draft to keep up with the Eagles who will definitely load up on the trenches too to defend their title. And they lost several players in the trenches due to free agency so they will want to re-stock their depth.

 

[Cyrus12]

The ghosts for Sam Darnold return....

 

[Wolfiegrrl]

I'm looking for JS to go BPA at each of these 10 picks. Look at how Byron Murphy III fell to us last year! Some interesting guys will fall in this draft just because of the depth of talent in the trenches.

I've seen how a Kubiak offense works. The OL guys we have will work. They will fill in a couple of pieces and we will do very well. As it stands, A. Bradford, C. Haynes, and S. Laumea can operate this offense. Not sure about the other guard on the roster, but I have faith the coaches know what and who they want.

 

[oldhawkfan]

What happens if they don’t draft OL? At all or just with the first pick? If they don’t draft any at all, this message board will be more lit than a college campus on Friday night. The pitchforks and torches will be lining up.

If they don’t use the first pick on a guard or tackle or center I’ll be just fine about it. Yes, the biggest need area on the team is IOL, but if all the guys that might be available for the IOL at pick 18 are generally considered second day picks and beyond, why would you overdraft for a need when a few studs at other positions are staring you in the face?!

If the best possible player available at 18 is a guard or center, then yes please pick him. If one of those IOL players is 30-50 on most draft boards, and is available at 18, please for the love of all things Seahawks, pass and make a pick for a guy who tilts the field.

From what I have learned, this draft is deep on the meat and potatoes guys. Linemen are clearly meat and potatoes guys. Please don’t overdraft linemen like many teams overdraft QBs. Anthony Richardson, Malik Willis, Will Levis,…

Even with the perceived needs on the line, this team really is set up to draft best player available with their first pick. Drafting for need hurts your team overall and weakens your team if you don’t hit on the guy picked. The entire draft is just a big crap shoot. There have been busts at every draft slot. Overall number one pick? Lots of busts. Top 5? Plenty of busts. Aaron Curry anyone? Picked number 4. Labeled by most as can’t miss, surest pick in the draft. The Seahawks got rid of Julian Peterson who played the same position for Curry.

The draft is like Christmas. Plenty of shiny exciting things to open up and be happy about. In the end, sometimes the box the gift came in is better than the actual gift.

 

[Appyhawk]

I'm worn out fretting over what our picks will be. Just gonna wait and see what our list of incoming players looks like and go from there. I just hope we don't lose any more of our best players, like K9.

 

[Jerhawk]

I’m okay if they use their first round pick on BPA, no matter who it is. Personally, I’d be fine with a solid DB, Edge, potentially QB, etc. Anything would be fine with me.

However, if they don’t take at least one guard in the first three rounds where we currently have 5 picks, then I’d be really pissed and concerned about the direction of this rebuild/retooling effort.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And let's be real, no matter WHO they take, a lot of people will lose their minds. I'm sure it's not just Hawks fans, but damn.
You didn't pick who I WANTED, you suck!! Endless entertainment

 

[LeveeBreak]

I’m okay if they use their first round pick on BPA, no matter who it is. Personally, I’d be fine with a solid DB, Edge, potentially QB, etc. Anything would be fine with me.

However, if they don’t take at least one guard in the first three rounds where we currently have 5 picks, then I’d be really pissed and concerned about the direction of this rebuild/retooling effort.

ditto.

and if they don't draft OL in the top 5 picks (maybe even 2), then .net fate is sealed.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I suppose the point of this thread is i'm feeling a bit of panic that nothing substancial was done in free agency to sure up the trenches. I'm sure they'll draft some offensive linemen, but I don't want them passing up on quality guys because there's shiny, luxury players avaliable to them. In other words, if there's a good lineman and another good player there - take the lineman. I'm also of the belief that the current line is NOT servicable enough as is even with Kubiaks new offense. An upgrade is critical.

Just tired of this team getting pushed around, not being able to run the ball, and the QB having no time.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

We have Bobo, Pitt. This team is winning the Stanley Cup.

 

[LeveeBreak]

I suppose the point of this thread is i'm feeling a bit of panic that nothing substancial was done in free agency to sure up the trenches. I'm sure they'll draft some offensive linemen, but I don't want them passing up on quality guys because there's shiny, luxury players avaliable to them. In other words, if there's a good lineman and another good player there - take the lineman. I'm also of the belief that the current line is NOT servicable enough as is even with Kubiaks new offense. An upgrade is critical.

Just tired of this team getting pushed around, not being able to run the ball, and the QB having no time.

I hear ya...this offseason was not a good one for OL FA's. The only OL worth big $$ (and that is questionable due to his broken leg) was made a substantial offer by JS according to reports. Minny outbid us with a contract considered by many a massive overpay. We tried to get the only other candidate worth offering starter $$ to, but he appears to have wanted to stay in the area and had injury concerns of his own. All other OL had flaws or fit issues and were probably < 50% chance of success.

JS made his bed and needs to be accountable for the current OL lineup...100%. But to say that we didn't try hard enough in the offseason FA market is a flawed argument.

Our reality is this...Our T's are capable starters, center is borderline, and our G's suck. The draft is about the only option now, aside a trade or cut. Fortunately it looks like a solid draft for OL, especially in rounds 2-3 and we have 4 picks in that range. I anticipate 2 in the 1st 5.

If they crap the bed on those and none of the sophmore or jr players step up...anticipate JS's head next to Eddard Stark's next offseason.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I wouldn't put all of your eggs in one basket that we MUST draft OL in the 1st round. I still think BPA is the right approach, OL or not. The drop off in this draft from pick 12 to pick 50 is not much if any, the only difference is you have more options to pick from at 18. I have started to think our best OL option is Donovan Jackson which may be able to be had a little later so a trade down may work and pick up another 3rd to give you options to move up if needed in the 2nd or 3rd. If a blue-chip guy falls to us and he's not an OL, I wouldn't be surprised if we just take that player (Tyler Warren for example). Tate Ratledge is basically just as good on the OL as any of the other guys projected in the 1st and he's projected to be a day 2 guy.

I know the O line wasn't good last year, there are plenty of reasons why it could be better this coming year but if you start drafting for need in the 1st instead of BPA that's how you end up with guys like LJ Collier. That's why I'm not on board with draft OL at all costs. OL may be the BPA at 18 but if it's not I'm ok with a higher graded player at a position not of immediate need like Edge for example.

 

[NoGain]

Sam Darnold is not a very good QB when he's under pressure. He also had a great coach for a QB and major weapons to throw to last year in Minny. At this point in time, this coming season is not looking good for us, even with a favorable schedule. The Rams will likely win the division, and I'm not so sure that second place in the division is going to be easy to come by. And with teams like the Commanders, Packers, Vikings, Bears battling for those three remaining playoff spots, the NFC West may well only put the division winner in the playoffs.

 

[James in PA]

I can definitely see things playing out the way they did last year. Almost all offensive players are going to go before we pick. There will be too many defensive guys that Schneider has graded higher than any of the remaining offensive players. Plus, you have a defensive minded head coach he will be licking his chops.

 

[glenwo2]

Defeatist attitudes suck. (*cough* NoGain *cough*)


Now that said, let's see what happens in the draft before jumping off the bridge, shall we?

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Everything I have read is that it is a deep IOL draft and some mocks have us waiting till round 2 before drafting there. I imagine if it goes that way there are going to be some unhappy people at the end of round 1