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[WestCoastChippewa]

Your probably right, 14 pounds isn't that much, he is also listed at 312. To be honest, I don't watch as much college football as I used to. With 9 kiddos, tv's don't last long, it sucks when they break one during football season! They don't make them like they used too, that's for sure. Anyways, Dillon Radnuz also played for ND, ND is known for putting out some decent lineman. Zabel seems like a good pick, from what I read about him. What's interesting; even though JS is president of football operations who has the final decision, will he let coaching pick their players? Is this the year to draft an OL in the first round? Or do we go after a QB early? Can MM and his OL coach persuade JS to pick Zabel at #18, Idk?

 

[Scout]

If was to speculate the point of ten picks is to load up on skill positions primarily in early rounds by double dipping a position group (eg WR) and then trench players in rounds 4 and 5. Then the finish the draft with specialists/special teams.

 

[Rat]

He has to be able to patty-cake & river dance. Someone will get Booker and it ain't likely us.

I see 6- 8 OT's (half could move inside), 4 OG's and a couple of centers worth drafting for a total of about 13. My guess is 6-8 go in the 1st round and another 6 go in the 2nd round. Won't be much left in the 3rd, especially at 82, 92, honestly you'll be lucky to get one at 50.

I would package my two 2nd rounders to move up into the 1st if I could. For example, the Vikings only have four picks, 1st (24), 3rd, 5th, 6th.
Our two 2nds are valued 50 (400) & 52 (380)= 780, Vikings 1st #24 = 740 pts.
I'd trade for #24 and use 18 & 24 to try to get a couple players. Also would try to package that crap 4th with a lower pick or two to move up closer to the top of the 4th.
I know it's fun for a lot of you guys & John to have 10 picks like presents to open on Christmas morning but it's not likely to jack this roster up. Besides these new coaches don't need a bunch of rookies in camp, they've got enough projects as it is.
Trade up. Don't dilute, concentrate.
A couple 1st's, two 3rds, try to move up in the 4th, a lower pick or two.
If we stay with the 10 picks we have now and don't hit on a good OL at 18, we likely won't get one.

Good post. I don't know why fans have such an aversion to trading up. If you trust your GM to make good on later picks, you should really like his chances with a bigger pool to choose from, with more highly-regarded prospects. And you'd still have plenty of other picks to try to hit on sleepers. Hell, a draft is considered a big success if you find two players after the second round who become better than average players. I see people talking about trading down from 18. I get if you're drafting high and can get a bevy of actually good picks, but from where we are, we're looking at mid/late round picks in trade downs. And like you said, what are we even going to do with like 14 rookies anyway?

I havn't looked into it, and might do so sometime soon when I'm bored, but I'll bet if you look at our recent history of trade downs, it would really hammer home that quantity isn't always better than quality. I know at least with the Malik McDowell disaster, the picks we got in the three trade downs (where we passed on TJ Watt and Ryan Ramczyk among others) before finally taking McDowell ended up being Shaquill Griffin and then a bunch of awful players (Lano Hill, Amara Darboh, and Tedric Thompson).

 

[warden]

Post draft that will probably stay that way too.

If you were a legit and talented interior Lineman looking for a new gig would you want to sign on with a team with one of the worst OLine s, or with a team where the GM has gone public saying interior OLinemen are over drafted and overpaid? For most I'd suspect it might cause serious pause for thought.

Exactly

 

[AnimeAmore]

If you were a legit and talented interior Lineman looking for a new gig would you want to sign on with a team with one of the worst OLine s, or with a team where the GM has gone public saying interior OLinemen are over drafted and overpaid? For most I'd suspect it might cause serious pause for thought.

Just read an article on another site, and they made a similar point. Maybe the reason why we haven't been able to sign any decent linemen in FA is because they feel insulted by him. If other teams are willing to pay as much (or more), why sign with the Hawks?
I already knew Schneider's view of OL was wrong, but I hadn't even considered how his words would affect potential free agent targets. Getting rid of Schneider looks like a requirement for fixing our OL

 

[chris98251]

Just read an article on another site, and they made a similar point. Maybe the reason why we haven't been able to sign any decent linemen in FA is because they feel insulted by him. If other teams are willing to pay as much (or more), why sign with the Hawks?
I already knew Schneider's view of OL was wrong, but I hadn't even considered how his words would affect potential free agent targets. Getting rid of Schneider looks like a requirement for fixing our OL

So replace him with Tim Ruskell or Bob Whitsitt? John has helped build a world Champion, tell me who is available with that on their resume? I tell you what happens, you get the Browns, Jets, current Giants front office etc. Be careful what you wish for, all you Fantasy drafters. If winning a Championship was easy every team would be in the challenge year in and year out.

 

[Sperrydogg]

10 million dollars doesn't exactly go that far in 2025.

I’d take it

 

[Sperrydogg]

In Schneider we trust, behind Schneider's line, our RBs run.

You should write haiku

 

[Sperrydogg]

Nothing wrong with bitching. Also, nothing wrong with bitching about bitching.
That's how we roll on dot net

I’m bitching about the people bitching about the people bitching. They suck. Be an original bitcher

 

[SoulfishHawk]

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Good post. I don't know why fans have such an aversion to trading up. If you trust your GM to make good on later picks, you should really like his chances with a bigger pool to choose from, with more highly-regarded prospects. And you'd still have plenty of other picks to try to hit on sleepers. Hell, a draft is considered a big success if you find two players after the second round who become better than average players. I see people talking about trading down from 18. I get if you're drafting high and can get a bevy of actually good picks, but from where we are, we're looking at mid/late round picks in trade downs. And like you said, what are we even going to do with like 14 rookies anyway?

I havn't looked into it, and might do so sometime soon when I'm bored, but I'll bet if you look at our recent history of trade downs, it would really hammer home that quantity isn't always better than quality. I know at least with the Malik McDowell disaster, the picks we got in the three trade downs (where we passed on TJ Watt and Ryan Ramczyk among others) before finally taking McDowell ended up being Shaquill Griffin and then a bunch of awful players (Lano Hill, Amara Darboh, and Tedric Thompson).

No doubt, with 10 picks, if they have a guy they really want, by all means trade up.

 

[olyfan63]

Pete Carroll's trademark and plan was to underpay and scrimp on the OL position group so he could acquire and pay defensive studs. Bowie and Bailey, anyone? So that Hawks could have Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, and Bobby Wagner?

Meanwhile, Peak Russell and Peak Beastmode could mask the OL issues. And then the Hawks had some luck with mid-round DBs, e.g., Sherman and Kam, mid-round LB KJ, plus those pedestrian UDFA receivers, Baldwin, Kearse. Sure, there were some first-rounders playing well too, Earl and Okung, and some big-dollar players injured/underperforming, Sidney Rice (injured), Percy Harvin. The overall saving grace, the secret sauce, was that SO MANY players on the 2013-14 Seahawks squads MASSIVELY OVERPERFORMED their contracts, while the Hawks underpaid the QB and OL.

Let's TRY not to get so over-fixated on OL, and IOL in particular, that we lose track of the real "secret sauce" (IMO) of the Super Bowl years. A couple existing rookie-contract IOL could blossom under Kubiak's scheme, pick up a good G at #52, and some really good BPA draft choices at #18, #50, and a couple mid-round lucky BPA hits. I think trading up from #18 to snag Ashton Jeanty could do more to improve the current OL than reaching for a rookie OL who could take a couple years to develop. I'd even be OK with trading K9 to Pete and the Raiduhs for a 2nd.

 

[Rat]

This whole "guards don't want to sign here because of those comments Schneider made that one time" thing is one of the most ridiculous theories I've seen fans push in recent years.

Aside from the fact that those comments have been wildly exaggerated and misconstrued, did I miss when this blew up into a league-wide scandal? Have any of you heard this story even referenced outside of Seattle media? I don't believe I have. I can't even recall a player on this team talking publicly about it, let alone players on other teams. I'll bet the vast majority of the league isn't even aware he made those comments, and the ones that do probably don't care. I very much doubt that when the story first came out, guards around the league were texting each other going, "can you believe this clown?".

The far more likely explanation of why guards aren't signing here is simply that we aren't offering as much money as other teams. Open up the checkbook a little and at worst, these guys are saying "hmmm, I was told this guy isn't willing to pay guards, but he just offered me a shit-ton of money, so I guess he is."

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Probably, but I'm not going to just assume they haven't offered up good $ to some of these guys. Sometimes a player just wants to play closer to home, or just where they choose to go. It's getting pretty damn frustrating though.

 

[warden]

This whole "guards don't want to sign here because of those comments Schneider made that one time" thing is one of the most ridiculous theories I've seen fans push in recent years.

Aside from the fact that those comments have been wildly exaggerated and misconstrued, did I miss when this blew up into a league-wide scandal? Have any of you heard this story even referenced outside of Seattle media? I don't believe I have. I can't even recall a player on this team talking publicly about it, let alone players on other teams. I'll bet the vast majority of the league isn't even aware he made those comments, and the ones that do probably don't care. I very much doubt that when the story first came out, guards around the league were texting each other going, "can you believe this clown?".

The far more likely explanation of why guards aren't signing here is simply that we aren't offering as much money as other teams. Open up the checkbook a little and at worst, these guys are saying "hmmm, I was told this guy isn't willing to pay guards, but he just offered me a shit-ton of money, so I guess he is."

Schneider’s comments that interior offensive lineman are overvalued and over payed was an extremely stupid thing for him to say publicly, especially since our OL has been sub par for years. Can’t really sugar coat this one

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Schneider’s comments that interior offensive lineman are overvalued and over payed was an extremely stupid thing for him to say publicly. Can’t really sugar coat this one

Please, for the love of God get the quote right.

“But we still to this day, because of the dearth of talent at the position, will overpay at that position and will over-draft at that position... We’ve been guilty of it, and we probably will be guilty of it in the future as well... It’s just based on a level of talent."

He has never said overvalued. He is right, they do get overpaid. Look at Will Fries, coming off a bad injury with no timetable to return, had 4 good games in his 4 years and now he gets 5 years $88 million? He isn't saying don't pay money, even a lot of money for guards. He's saying guards, because there are so few good ones out there get paid more than they should, way more than they should because teams are fighting for them. At some point you have to say enough is enough when it comes to what their market is and not pay over that.

 

[Scout]

Another OL off the free agent board. Bucs re-up Opeta on a one year deal.

Buccaneers bring back key depth piece on offense

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers announced they have re-signed guard Sua Opeta to a new one year contract. This news comes after Opeta signed with the Tampa Bay Buccane

www.si.com

JS better have a plan for the OL via the draft!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Like many of these guys, never heard of her.

 

[GemCity]

You should write haiku

In JS we trust, unless he drafts busts, he must…lick thine nuts.


Hmmm…might need work.

 

[rjdriver]

I wish Mina would hear me. Know me. Feel me.