Geno ain't goin' anywhere -

[Chukarhawk]

Whatever happens with a Geno extension I seriously hope they make a move for a QB early in this draft. Partly because if that one doesn't work out they get another one next year. It is a priority that we work toward our next QB instead of focusing on the one we have. Don't get me wrong, I like Geno despite his warts. But I cannot see any wisdom at all in failing to recognize he is on his last hooraw and we need to be working on our next move starting NOW.

I don't think it will be early, but they will take a QB.

 

[Double Tribble]

I hope so. We aren't winning with Geno anyway, so it's not like drafting his replacement is going to be some drastic fall off a cliff. If done correctly, we should win more games with a rookie, not less. That's the whole point, and the biggest disconnect for me with the pro Geno crowd.

 

[Ozzy]

I hope so. We aren't winning with Geno anyway, so it's not like drafting his replacement is going to be some drastic fall off a cliff. If done correctly, we should win more games with a rookie, not less. That's the whole point, and the biggest disconnect for me with the pro Geno crowd.

Yep it’s a fair argument.

 

[toffee]

I hope so. We aren't winning with Geno anyway, so it's not like drafting his replacement is going to be some drastic fall off a cliff. If done correctly, we should win more games with a rookie, not less. That's the whole point, and the biggest disconnect for me with the pro Geno crowd.

Yep it’s a fair argument.

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[SeaofGreen]

I hope so. We aren't winning with Geno anyway, so it's not like drafting his replacement is going to be some drastic fall off a cliff. If done correctly, we should win more games with a rookie, not less. That's the whole point, and the biggest disconnect for me with the pro Geno crowd.

Win MORE with a rookie? Which rookie QB (that we have a chance to get) is going to get us to 11+ wins? Like him or not that's the bar Geno set with a new HC, piss poor rookie play caller, unreliable running game, below average line and a defense that was finding it's way. At this point I believe Geno is our best shot to get more wins than last year.

 

[toffee]

Win MORE with a rookie? Which rookie QB (that we have a chance to get) is going to get us to 11+ wins? Like him or not that's the bar Geno set with a new HC, piss poor rookie play caller, unreliable running game, below average line and a defense that was finding it's way. At this point I believe Geno is our best shot to get more wins than last year.

I agree with you, but I am taking the liberty to provide opinions from the other side:

1. geNOs have seen Geno's ceiling and ain't impressed.
2. geNOs know Geno wants more $, but with that low ceiling, the geNOs would rather not pay.
3. geNOs will argue that you can't prove other QB could not bring the Hawks to win more.
4. geNOs will accept winning less games, so long that they don't have to watch geNO.

You can rebut or reason on points 1-3, but you can't on 4.

 

[Hotchy]

Win MORE with a rookie? Which rookie QB (that we have a chance to get) is going to get us to 11+ wins? Like him or not that's the bar Geno set with a new HC, piss poor rookie play caller, unreliable running game, below average line and a defense that was finding it's way. At this point I believe Geno is our best shot to get more wins than last year.

Because you don't just roll with a rookie QB. Moving on from Geno allows us to put more $ into other positions, making the rest of the team better. If we give Geno a new deal, I don't think our team will be any better than last year. It'll basically be the same good, but not great, team. Geno, K9, and JSN (maybe DK?) , and a couple rookie OL ain't winning anything. K9 is only a 3rd down back to me also (if he can handle 10 touches without getting hurt).

 

[Chukarhawk]

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No

 

[Wsumatt1982]

No

Agreed. Hard pass on Shough.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

I agree with you, but I am taking the liberty to provide opinions from the other side:

1. geNOs have seen Geno's ceiling and ain't impressed.
2. geNOs know Geno wants more $, but with that low ceiling, the geNOs would rather not pay.
3. geNOs will argue that you can't prove other QB could not bring the Hawks to win more.
4. geNOs will accept winning less games, so long that they don't have to watch geNO.

You can rebut or reason on points 1-3, but you can't on 4.

I'm not on pro or anti Geno side.

First year was great. Offensive scheme was dogshit for a considerable amount of time. With Klint's 'system' in place - fullback, and all the other shit including finally getting the running game back and running a 50/50 run/pass game? If we're sub .500 and Geno's got 40 sacks on the year and still making stupid red zone decisions even WITH time/better scheme - then ya, dump him.

Other than that - I really think that people have overreacted (including myself at times) to both a couple of his stats, as well as his temperament.

Just my .02 - not saying he walks on water - and not saying he's hot garbage either. I STILL don't think that him OR DK have been given a fighting chance last couple years between Waldron and ******* Grubb. If you're basing ANYTHING off of last year with Grubb I submit that's a mistake.

 

[Ozzy]

Win MORE with a rookie? Which rookie QB (that we have a chance to get) is going to get us to 11+ wins? Like him or not that's the bar Geno set with a new HC, piss poor rookie play caller, unreliable running game, below average line and a defense that was finding it's way. At this point I believe Geno is our best shot to get more wins than last year.

A bunch of fans would’ve said this last year yet all 6 rookies played very well and in many cases their teams got much better.

You may be right but you may be wrong, it’s way too early to know but the idea that it’s impossible to replace a guy who’s QBR was in the bottom third seems crazy to me.

 

[Double Tribble]

^This! I'm actually shocked at how risk averse so many here appear to be. We don't break through to the next level by refusing to take chances and continuing to do what we've always done, which hasn't worked.

When has that ever proved to be a formula for success in any endeavor, let alone competitive team sports? Embracing change separates the great from the merely good.

 

[Double Tribble]

I agree with you, but I am taking the liberty to provide opinions from the other side:

1. geNOs have seen Geno's ceiling and ain't impressed.
2. geNOs know Geno wants more $, but with that low ceiling, the geNOs would rather not pay.
3. geNOs will argue that you can't prove other QB could not bring the Hawks to win more.
4. geNOs will accept winning less games, so long that they don't have to watch geNO.

You can rebut or reason on points 1-3, but you can't on 4.

Fair.

 

[SeaofGreen]

A bunch of fans would’ve said this last year yet all 6 rookies played very well and in many cases their teams got much better.

You may be right but you may be wrong, it’s way too early to know but the idea that it’s impossible to replace a guy who’s QBR was in the bottom third seems crazy to me.

I think most people agreed that last year's QB class was much stronger/deeper than this years. We didn't have a shot at any of those QBs. My question is...Who can we get that you believe would get us 11 wins?
I didn't say it was impossible to replace Geno either. I think we need to and hope we will, it just probably won't be this year.
I like Geno more than most but I'm not delusional about him being the answer beyond 1 year, maybe 2. I think he earned a shot to be the guy for another year but we need to have the best competition we can bring in. If he gets beat out that would be great, whatever is best for the team.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

I think most people agreed that last year's QB class was much stronger/deeper than this years. We didn't have a shot at any of those QBs. My question is...Who can we get that you believe would get us 11 wins?
I didn't say it was impossible to replace Geno either. I think we need to and hope we will, it just probably won't be this year.
I like Geno more than most but I'm not delusional about him being the answer beyond 1 year, maybe 2. I think he earned a shot to be the guy for another year but we need to have the best competition we can bring in. If he gets beat out that would be great, whatever is best for the team.

I don’t think anyone who’s advocated for Geno to be the starter didn’t say exactly what you just said. It’s a lost cause with some. An unknown rookie in the 3rd or later in a much weaker class than last year is better than Geno. Some people would rather see a high probability of taking than truly try and see what we have with Geno for one more year.

 

[SeaofGreen]

I don’t think anyone who’s advocated for Geno to be the starter didn’t say exactly what you just said. It’s a lost cause with some. An unknown rookie in the 3rd or later in a much weaker class than last year is better than Geno. Some people would rather see a high probability of taking than truly try and see what we have with Geno for one more year.

Who? Do you have a name for me? I want to watch his film.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Who? Do you have a name for me? I want to watch his film.

Cam Ward if the team made some trades and moved up in the draft.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I hope so. We aren't winning with Geno anyway, so it's not like drafting his replacement is going to be some drastic fall off a cliff. If done correctly, we should win more games with a rookie, not less. That's the whole point, and the biggest disconnect for me with the pro Geno crowd.

While I'm on the move on from Geno wagon, I highly doubt this team wins more than 10 games with a rookie.

 

[Ozzy]

I think most people agreed that last year's QB class was much stronger/deeper than this years. We didn't have a shot at any of those QBs. My question is...Who can we get that you believe would get us 11 wins?
I didn't say it was impossible to replace Geno either. I think we need to and hope we will, it just probably won't be this year.
I like Geno more than most but I'm not delusional about him being the answer beyond 1 year, maybe 2. I think he earned a shot to be the guy for another year but we need to have the best competition we can bring in. If he gets beat out that would be great, whatever is best for the team.

I'm not sure to be honest but a lot of people default to a rookie will automatically be a downgrade. Geno's stats weren't good last year. Obviously that is partially because of other circumstances but it was also him. Maybe Dart is a superstar, maybe someone else. I don't know.....I'm just open to the possibility that one of them if not in year 1 at least by year 2, with adding resources with the money saved is a win for Seattle. Too many pro Geno guys say "impossible to replace him!" as if its objective fact, its not.

Now if John looks at this class and thinks its trash then he probably goes with Geno and I'm ok with that too. For me it would be the last option. I think you could get a much cheaper vet who is very similar to Geno, throw another 20 million or whatever saved into your trenches and be ahead but thats me.

 

[sutz]

I'm not sure to be honest but a lot of people default to a rookie will automatically be a downgrade.

And there are a few on here saying that a rookie will "automatically" be an upgrade as well.