QB for 2025 season

[SoulfishHawk]

Both.....fo sho, yo.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Furthermore, of course some of it is on Geno. What people are failing to grasp or understand, is that there isnt an available solution that is better than Geno. There is no QB available in FA that is better than Geno. Baker or Darnold or whoever else people think are better options, aren't better option in reality on the field.
If we change out Geno for any of those other QBs, you would quickly realize they have their own warts when you get to watch every snap they play every game.
The odds are overwhelmingly against any QB coming out of college ever getting to the level that Geno plays at right now and has since he took over here. There might be a handful of them every few years that reach that level, but most will flame out or hover in the below average journeyman range. Even IF you found one with that potential, they almost certainly wont get to that level in the next 2 years. Not only are you counting on winning the lottery to even find a QB that might be good someday, you're also counting on hitting the lottery a 2nd time to find that rare guy that can do it right away. That strategy is more than acceptable if yo7 keep someone like Geno while you take shots, but gets you fired if put all your eggs in that basket. There's a reason the position is so valuable, scarcity!
Critique and analyze until your hearts content, as fans are supposed to do, but we part ways when the conversation enters the realm of thinking there are better QBs available to us. There's different, there's better that's unavailable, there's worse, but there isn't better and available.

Unfortunately you speak a lot of truth here which means the Hawks are in a pickle. The QBotF should have been addressed years ago. An attempt at least. The years of Pete believing they were only a piece here or there away from being legit contenders got in the way. Now,,,,i'm not sure what you do. Bringing in common, sometimes they flash QB's like a Darnold, Baker, and dear I say Geno isn't the answer. There's three options in my opinion,,,,,,wait for a big name FA QB's contract to come up and spend more than anybody else to sign him (there's always the franchise tag getting in the way), pray a late round QB strikes gold like Brady or Wilson which is improbable, or package players with worth and draft picks for a higher draft pick in order to take somebody your willing to gamble on like Ward. None of them look attractive. The QB position is going to be a very big issue moving forward.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It was made known that they were one of 3 teams that tried to trade up for Penix.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Denver's best win is Tampa. Washington's best win is Arizona. Patriots have lost 4 in a row and are 1-7 under Maye. Stroud doubled his INTs and has no rushing TDs.

Can we chill on how amazing these teams are.

Nobody thinks that they are amazing, but they are set up for the future with their young QB's. Seattle is not.

 

[pittpnthrs]

Not only is it hope. The odds are against them ever being as good as Geno is right now

Oh good lord. The probability that all of them turn out to be better than Geno Smith is likely and high.

 

[SonicHawk]

Nobody thinks that they are amazing, but they are set up for the future with their young QB's. Seattle is not.

I guarantee you in 5 years that maybe only 1 of those teams has the same starting QB.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Guarantee? Hmmm

 

[hawker84]

We need both. Why folks still don't get that is beyond me.

My point is, doesn't matter who you bring in at QB, if his line can't block fir him it's meaningless. But don't take my word on it, listen to any and every football expert that all say the same thing.

 

[pittpnthrs]

I guarantee you in 5 years that maybe only 1 of those teams has the same starting QB.

I'll take that bet.

 

[pittpnthrs]

My point is, doesn't matter who you bring in at QB, if his line can't block fir him it's meaningless. But don't take my word on it, listen to any and every football expert that all say the same thing.

I get it, but my point is that I don't think a good Oline is going to elevate Smith to a higher level than we've already seen. I've said it from the beginning that Geno doesn't have the mental capabilities to take a team to the Super Bowl or even deep into the post season and I still feel that way.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

This ^^^

 

[keasley45]

Nobody thinks that they are amazing, but they are set up for the future with their young QB's. Seattle is not.

'SETUP' is relative and the extents to which they actually are set remains to be seen. Washington was 'setup' 12 years ago with RG3... until they weren't. So was Indy with Luck. Stroud had a great rookie year but has come back to earth. Will he ever be more than a Kyler Murray? For that matter is Arizona 'setup'?

There are fare more misses than there are hits at the qb position.

Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Carolina, Atlanta - just went through the 'setup' reality a few years ago. Washington has done it a few times in the last 6 years.

Get the guy when the guy comes along and dont do it out of desperation.

 

[SonicHawk]

I get it, but my point is that I don't think a good Oline is going to elevate Smith to a higher level than we've already seen. I've said it from the beginning that Geno doesn't have the mental capabilities to take a team to the Super Bowl or even deep into the post season and I still feel that way.

You've never seen Geno behind a good oline.

Sam Howell looked worse than he ever did in Washington last year.

 

[SonicHawk]

I'll take that bet.

Name your wager.

 

[toffee]

Will Titans trade for Geno? Levi hasn't been good so far. What about Raiders? They started 3 QBs this year and none of them enjoyed success.

 

[IndyHawk]

I'd like to have Joe Milton in a trade, I may be wrong about him but
I think he may be good if given a chance.
He has the tools to do it and the height I like. I think he'd be a buy low
option really that could pay off big.

I have to repost this
He has been sitting and learning while all the others suck.
Get him in a trade, cut Geno, draft a real RB and use the $$$
for the OL line.
It doesn't have to be so hard really.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I like the idea of Joe Milton at QB.
However, as far as RB goes......we have a real RB.

 

[nwHawk]

Stanton is such an attention whore, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that his last name is actually Kelce.

Id prefer to not commit to Geno as the starter for next year, because I think we know who he is and I don't expect further development from him, but I believe there's at least a legitimate argument for riding with him for the last year of his deal. However, it absolutely floors me that there are fans who actually want to extend him with a new contract that would start in his age 36 season. We're seeing the Falcons get burned on giving a guy that old a new contract, and nearly every example of a QB being a high-quality starter into their late 30s are guys who have been doing it for forever. They aren't guys you pay and hope they finally take that next step.

Rat, this might be your best post. Common sense. Thank you for saying this out loud.

On a side note, Green Bay took Rogers and Love in the 1st Round while having “one of the best in the league” at the time. They took heat both times. But in hindsight, they haven’t really had QB issues like the rest of the league. Maybe fans need to realize it’s a process and players that are developed have a greater chance to succeed.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt. Everyone was laughing at the Packers when they drafted Love. Nobody is laughing now. That kid is legit. Totally calm out there.

 

[Rat]

The Packers do deserve credit for taking Love (actually traded up for him), but I don't know that it was necessarily a case of them having great foresight. I have to imagine that anyone who has heard Aaron Rodgers talk would also jump the gun at the chance to create a situation where they no longer have to hear Aaron Rodgers talk.