Mike needs more time

[Tech Worlds]

Ok. I guess I read it wrong then. I just don't get the correlation between how he talks in a press conference somehow equaling it being telling on this team or its future. That's all.

Asking the coach what his team does well....I don't think he can honestly answer it. What have they improved upon? I don't think he can answer that.
Honeymoon is over. What has your team under your direction improved upon coach?
I bet he can't honestly answer.

 

[Appyhawk]

Time identifies coaches and/or players who are consistently negative impact members of the team. Then they aren't.
Coach Mac has a projected six year window.
Same can be true of a fan site roster, except for the six year part.

 

[irfuben32]

We traded with the Giants for a DT, gave away the future to stop the run...maybe. BIG MISTAKE... This team needs to tank, build a D over 2-4 years, while gradually improving into the .500 win percentage, then find that golden nugget a QB with a rocket arm, roller skates on his feet and a big smile for the crowd. THAT is how a team is built. How long did it take Detroit to get where it is today? How about the Bills, the Redskins, even the flippin Chiefs. They all sucked for a long time after their glory days. Miami is still sucking, Panthers were good, then sucked, and now blow.

Patience and enjoy the ride. Now get to stockpiling young prospects, and sell the rest.

The problem is there are only a handful of "golden nugget QB's with rocket arms". The other 27 or so teams have to get creative. Getting a former high pick that washed out because he was on a bad team and rolling with them on a less then premium contract is a solid option. Heck you used the Lions as an example but really Goff is more of a reclaimation project that worked out ala Mayfield or Geno. The big difference is the Lions have a great o-line.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Yeah, if we stop letting Schneider choose offensive lineman and have someone else do it, Seattle, can possibly be better in the trenches.

Schneider just cannot pick offensive lineman to save his life, possibly, his job…

 

[jeremiah]

The problem is there are only a handful of "golden nugget QB's with rocket arms". The other 27 or so teams have to get creative. Getting a former high pick that washed out because he was on a bad team and rolling with them on a less then premium contract is a solid option. Heck you used the Lions as an example but really Goff is more of a reclaimation project that worked out ala Mayfield or Geno. The big difference is the Lions have a great o-line.

Yes, but Goff reached the pinnacle with the Rams. He was right there. Geno is not getting there, and neither is any team with a K-mart Lounge chair O line.

 

[irfuben32]

Yes, but Goff reached the pinnacle with the Rams. He was right there. Geno is not getting there, and neither is any team with a K-mart Lounge chair O line.

it first it seems like you don't agree with me but at the end it seems like you do

 

[bileever]

Here is a list of the new coaches this year, and how they're doing. (Not including interim Jets' head coach.) I thought it might give us some perspective.

Dan Quinn, Commanders: 6-2 (last year 4-13)
Raheem Morris, Falcons: 5-3 (last year 7-10)
Jim Harbaugh, Chargers: 4-3 (last year 5-12)
Mike Macdonald, Seahawks: 4-4 (last year 9-8)
Jerod Mayo, Patriots: 2-6 (last year 4-13)
Brian Callahan, Titans: 1-6 (last year 6-11)
Dave Canales, Panthers: 1-7 (last year 2-15)

Only the Seahawks' had a winning record last season, while the other teams were a big mess, with several being serious dumpster fires.

For me, the big surprise is how Dan Quinn is doing with the Commanders. I seriously underestimated him. He did get Jayden Daniels, but on the other hand, he took the NFL's worst defense from last year and has made them a top-10 unit, and that's after they sold off some major pieces before the trading deadline last year. Jim Harbaugh is doing his typical good job, but he's not setting the world on fire. The Falcons have definitely improved, but they also signed Kirk Cousins after having no decent QBs the last couple of years. We all knew that the Patriots, Titans and Panthers aren't going to be competitive for a while.

 

[jeremiah]

it first it seems like you don't agree with me but at the end it seems like you do

It is hard to think when angry, and I have been angry at the Seahawks for years. A quality center is like gold in this league, we get them, and whoosh...trade them away. Pete did that, Mike didn't do that. I trust the new coach, he is young, determined and he will get better. My point about QB's, is that if you have a have a Matt Stafford, and no offensive line, you trade him and begin building. You can pay for a QB once you have a team, or pick one up in the draft. First, you MUST build the OL and the DL. No superstar WR or QB will do anything but thrill you until you lose in the 4th quarter.

 

[Ozzy]

Here is a list of the new coaches this year, and how they're doing. (Not including interim Jets' head coach.) I thought it might give us some perspective.

Dan Quinn, Commanders: 6-2 (last year 4-13)
Raheem Morris, Falcons: 5-3 (last year 7-10)
Jim Harbaugh, Chargers: 4-3 (last year 5-12)
Mike Macdonald, Seahawks: 4-4 (last year 9-8)
Jerod Mayo, Patriots: 2-6 (last year 4-13)
Brian Callahan, Titans: 1-6 (last year 6-11)
Dave Canales, Panthers: 1-7 (last year 2-15)

Only the Seahawks' had a winning record last season, while the other teams were a big mess, with several being serious dumpster fires.

For me, the big surprise is how Dan Quinn is doing with the Commanders. I seriously underestimated him. He did get Jayden Daniels, but on the other hand, he took the NFL's worst defense from last year and has made them a top-10 unit, and that's after they sold off some major pieces before the trading deadline last year. Jim Harbaugh is doing his typical good job, but he's not setting the world on fire. The Falcons have definitely improved, but they also signed Kirk Cousins after having no decent QBs the last couple of years. We all knew that the Patriots, Titans and Panthers aren't going to be competitive for a while.

basically everyone outside of the Commanders is really close to us and the Commanders were a hail mary from being 1 game up on us with a future superstar at QB and Daniels has been better than Geno.

I think we gotta be a little patient.

 

[irfuben32]

It is hard to think when angry, and I have been angry at the Seahawks for years. A quality center is like gold in this league, we get them, and whoosh...trade them away. Pete did that, Mike didn't do that. I trust the new coach, he is young, determined and he will get better. My point about QB's, is that if you have a have a Matt Stafford, and no offensive line, you trade him and begin building. You can pay for a QB once you have a team, or pick one up in the draft. First, you MUST build the OL and the DL. No superstar WR or QB will do anything but thrill you until you lose in the 4th quarter.

This guy gets it.

 

[hawks85]

You guys want perfection and everything fixed immediately. Not gonna happen. Installing a completely new defensive scheme can take up to 2-3 years, same with the offense. Mike even said during there Brock interview that they even haven't dug deep into the playbook yet. He said we got stuff to help the scheme but we have not created situations to use that stuff yet, it's a talent issue. Mikes defense is super complex, even that Ravens players said that. We're gonna be fine, just relax.

 

[Natethegreat]

Yeah, if we stop letting Schneider choose offensive lineman and have someone else do it, Seattle, can possibly be better in the trenches.

Schneider just cannot pick offensive lineman to save his life, possibly, his job…

Charles Cross, Abe Lucas, our left guard we just lost to panthers come to mind right off the top as successful o line picks. Hopefully Lucas can get back on the field

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Charles Cross, Abe Lucas, our left guard we just lost to panthers come to mind right off the top as successful o line picks. Hopefully Lucas can get back on the field

Are you saying 3 offensive lineman out of Schneider’s tenure since 2010, is good enough?

I don’t know how “good” Cross really is, but I wouldn’t say Cross is a Pro Bowler right now. Lucas has been injured a lot. Damien Lewis, I assume, you are referring too, wasn’t good, more so decent/average, so this isn’t really looking like a good record for Schneider.

Over 10 drafts….Schneiders record for “hit or miss” for quality/good offensive lineman has been largely a whiff.

He just has not been a great talent evaluator for offensive lineman these past 11 years or so.

And considering how important offensive lineman are in todays NFL, I think it clearly justifies moving on from Schneider, I’ll give JS a pass for 3 more years so Mac can do his thing but JS is on the hot seat!

 

[Seak]

Are you saying 3 offensive lineman out of Schneider’s tenure since 2010, is good enough?

I don’t know how “good” Cross really is, but I wouldn’t say Cross is a Pro Bowler right now. Lucas has been injured a lot. Damien Lewis, I assume, you are referring too, wasn’t good, more so decent/average, so this isn’t really looking like a good record for Schneider.

Over 10 drafts….Schneiders record for “hit or miss” for quality/good offensive lineman has been largely a whiff.

He just has not been a great talent evaluator for offensive lineman these past 11 years or so.

And considering how important offensive lineman are in todays NFL, I think it clearly justifies moving on from Schneider, I’ll give JS a pass for 3 more years so Mac can do his thing but JS is on the hot seat!

Hopefully this year was the final reality check for him
Whatever his/ the teams process for scouting and drafting O linemen is most likely flawed

 

[Natethegreat]

Are you saying 3 offensive lineman out of Schneider’s tenure since 2010, is good enough?

I don’t know how “good” Cross really is, but I wouldn’t say Cross is a Pro Bowler right now. Lucas has been injured a lot. Damien Lewis, I assume, you are referring too, wasn’t good, more so decent/average, so this isn’t really looking like a good record for Schneider.

Over 10 drafts….Schneiders record for “hit or miss” for quality/good offensive lineman has been largely a whiff.

He just has not been a great talent evaluator for offensive lineman these past 11 years or so.

And considering how important offensive lineman are in todays NFL, I think it clearly justifies moving on from Schneider, I’ll give JS a pass for 3 more years so Mac can do his thing but JS is on the hot seat!

I was just speaking about recent picks off the top of my head. Obviously he has a lot more but I'm not going to bother looking them all up.

 

[MORGULON]

That Giants loss 3 weeks ago is what burns me up the most. They are playing uninspired and undisciplined football in Lumen field (their home field). Even the worst teams in football at least play better at home. Not these Seahawks. They have now lost 3 straight games at home. In only 2 of those games they were playing a team that is a playoff contender.

So ... 2 of the 3 losses at home were to playoff contenders .

That makes sense.

The loss to the NYG bothers me but the other 2 teams will be in contention for the SB.

 

[Rat]

So ... 2 of the 3 losses at home were to playoff contenders .

That makes sense.

The loss to the NYG bothers me but the other 2 teams will be in contention for the SB.

Playoff contenders or not, I don't know how you can feel good about either of those games. The Niners came in 2-3 and were reeling, having lost three of four (win was against the Patriots), and in their previous game blew a late lead to the Cards. Still, they were up 23-3 on us before we showed any signs of life, and every time we got close, we'd just give it away again and ended up losing by 12. Hell, without some help from the refs on the Dee Williams muffed punt, it could have been worse. We still don't even know if the Niners are any good. They're ravaged by injuries and have been missing the reigning OPOY the entire season. They've played all three divisional rivals and only beat us.

Then we got blasted 31-10 in the other game. It was a disaster of compounded errors.

I can handle losses to good teams. I don't know that you can look at this team in either game and say they at least look like they're heading in the right direction.

Hopefully, better home efforts are to come.

 

[MORGULON]

Playoff contenders or not, I don't know how you can feel good about either of those games. The Niners came in 2-3 and were reeling, having lost three of four (win was against the Patriots), and in their previous game blew a late lead to the Cards. Still, they were up 23-3 on us before we showed any signs of life, and every time we got close, we'd just give it away again and ended up losing by 12. Hell, without some help from the refs on the Dee Williams muffed punt, it could have been worse. We still don't even know if the Niners are any good. They're ravaged by injuries and have been missing the reigning OPOY the entire season. They've played all three divisional rivals and only beat us.

Then we got blasted 31-10 in the other game. It was a disaster of compounded errors.

I can handle losses to good teams. I don't know that you can look at this team in either game and say they at least look like they're heading in the right direction.

Hopefully, better home efforts are to come.

Rat, I don't feel good about those games . I just think it's going to take a little time and I'm ok with that. SF and Buff are both better teams at the moment .

Reeling or not .

Seattle is going to lose more games this season. MM is going to get this figured out . He has the knowledge, the pedigree, the inner strength.
He's signed for 6 years and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I just hope the knowledgeable football fans on .NET can handle the ups and downs of the journey .